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silentcyclist3 said:It’s a universal relationship. Of individuals, society, and everything else in motion.
We recognize who we are and what our purpose is...
The reasons vary, and judgment is just one consequence of those reasons. Realizing something doesn't necessarily mean you will act in accordance with it.
As they say in those astrology books, a human being oscillates over time; circumstances change, and our reactions change along with them.
Yes, I suppose I wasn't clear. I'll drop the word "width" and just stick to the frames.
The truth exists beyond perception.
Assuming this "purpose" even exists—to you, it might be a "purpose," but to me, it’s simply the "nature" of being alive. When you say purpose, you imply there's a goal to reach. You talk about purpose and goals; I talk about nature as it exists inherently—if it truly exists, then it lacks a destination. Where does something that has always been go? Where can it possibly go if it has always existed? It may exist in constant flux, but what is the goal of something defined by infinite change?
Perhaps we are using different terms; maybe when you say "purpose," you actually mean the essence of something?
And here we are again, circling back to identity—the relationship between the individual and the universal.
Essentially, an identity that asks itself: who, or what, am I?
Are we merely the sum of our memories? If so, that would be my identity—because through the memory of what we once were, we construct a concept of ourselves, believing we possess a specific nature, seeking self-knowledge just so we know how to proceed with ourselves.
In other words, we equate our memory of any single moment of existence with our identity; we assume there is a "self" and that such an entity exists.
I suspect there is something you instinctively fear—for some, it's spiders, for others, heights, or perhaps empty space... American neurologists suggest that such fears develop when a stimulus carves a direct path to the part of the brain responsible for reaction. Otherwise, there isn't a direct path; typically, we process a stimulus first, then react. In a specific case, someone who doesn't fear spiders will first process (I typed "process" incorrectly😳) that visual information before reacting; however, if that same person fears heights, they won't process the visual stimulus—they will react immediately because the stimulus has carved a direct link to the reaction center.
Why mention this? Because a multitude of such things actually "defines" us—it defines our nature—yet those very things we believe constitute our identity can change once we understand how. In the case of the spider or the height, there are ways to reroute that path; to ensure the stimulus doesn't trigger an immediate response by consciously "programming" a different reaction each time. We won't eliminate the fear instantly, of course, but over time, there is a probability.
It raises the question: how much have we been unconsciously determined by these factors, leading us to believe "this is who I am," when in reality, we could be something else entirely?
the human being oscillates over time; circumstances shift, and our reactions shift along with them.
That is precisely what I am discussing—have we truly constructed a concept of our identity based solely on our memories? If our memories were different, would our identity be different? Does it even exist as a "self," or is it merely a collection of points forming my perception of what I am?
Fair enough, I misspoke. I’m stripping away the "breadth" and focusing strictly on the frameworks.
The truth lies beyond the illusion.
It seems we might just be using different vocabularies—so let me clarify; when you speak of this illusion, are you referring to what one might call "individual consciousness," while the truth represents that "pure spirit" mentioned earlier?
@ hollowtinker18, I'm starting to worry you'll pose a question so cryptic I'll have to spend all day decoding it. 😁 I do enjoy reading your posts, though—provided one can navigate the endless dashes and commas...😛