Smith Sr. - 2.75 BAC

I’d personally buy that guy a bloody coffee and beg them to throw him back in prison for ten years instead of five. I mean, five just isn't enough—he's clearly not off the streets for good like this.

briskbison55 said:It wasn't some dad buying his kid a fast car; this guy actually put in the work, earned every cent himself, and then just handed it over to his lazy son as a gift... I guess he just wanted the kid to have something to smile about.

If he gets out and things go south, he might end up back behind bars. It’s those nasty medical issues on paper—you know, the ones that aren't really "illnesses" per se, but once you're flagged with them, they stay on your record forever and never truly clear.

He didn't gift it... the 7 is owned by Solidum...

The real issue is that he let him drive it in the first place...

But honestly? You can't spend your entire life carrying someone else's weight...

However, when he handed over a machine like that—the very thing used to commit the crime—he wasn't taking responsibility then, so why should he start playing the hero now by trying to pull his son out of prison?

If you ask me, there are certain offenses that deserve actual jail time. I’m thinking specifically about people who get behind the wheel after having their license revoked, or those driving with a blood alcohol level north of .10—the kind of folks where a standard fine doesn't even register on their radar because they’ll just pass the cost down to their employees like a hidden tax.

James Nguyen13 said:If you ask me, there are certain offenses that deserve actual jail time. I’m thinking specifically about people who get behind the wheel after having their license revoked, or those driving with a blood alcohol level north of .10—the kind of folks where a standard fine doesn't even register on their radar because they’ll just pass the cost down to their employees like a hidden tax.

We should just scale the fines directly to their income... simple as that. End of story.

And honestly? We ought to consider seizing the vehicle—maybe even permanently—if someone keeps pulling these heavy violations over and over. Though, I suppose making a permanent seizure unconstitutional is probably part of the legal headache we deal with here...

Bryan Nelson352 said:Even after his son, Harvey (24), ended up behind bars because he caused a fatal accident with a blood alcohol level of 2.45%—killing Rose Pavic (19)—Jerry Zuzic was out there driving with a staggering 2.75%.

The police actually pulled Jerry Zuzic over twice. The first time they caught him, he just flat-out refused the breathalyzer, so the cops disqualified his license and banned him from driving. But apparently, that didn't bother Jerry much; he just calmly got back in his car and kept driving despite the ban, according to reports from the LA Times.

A few hours later, near Broadway, the police caught up with him again, and this time he was hauled off to the local holding Unit.

Word is that on May 30th of this year, the Los Angeles Municipal Court issued a non-binding ruling fining Jerry Zuzic $2333 and handing him a six-month driving ban.

I guess this old alcoholic just can't seem to cut back, even after that whole tragedy...🙂

Someone please tell me, how does a guy who's been banned from driving and is clearly wasted get to sit in a car in front of the police and just drive away !!!1

Try doing that yourselves and see what happens—you'd probably end up face-down on the pavement being told not to move.

Why did the police let this maniac go???
What if he had accidentally killed some poor single mother of two?? What would happen then? Someone would actually have to be held responsible.
As it stands, nobody gets anything.

The patrol that first stopped Zuzic should probably face a disciplinary hearing and be suspended.
It seems to be a matter of:
a) nothing happened—so nothing happens.
b) someone died—then it's a total mess.

In this broken and messed-up country, people really have to die before any temporary measures are taken (meaning, until everyone forgets).
Just like that little girl who had to die just to get a damn traffic light installed at an intersection.
🙂

wanderinghawk502 said:We’re about to get a front-row seat to watching everyone scramble to find the loopholes in this legislation just to dodge penalties... To be honest, I have my doubts that they’ll actually pull his license, especially given how inconsistently the law is enforced in practice here.

p.s. I truly hope I’m wrong about this.

The guy actually had his driver's license suspended back on May 30th... so, essentially, the police let a man who was absolutely wasted behind the wheel walk away without a license,😕 and then, naturally, another patrol pulls him over and hits him with a $2,750 fine.

The whole thing is probably going to end with some "astronomical" fine of $5000 and another six months without driving privileges... which, frankly, is going to be a massive blow to him.

What an absolute disgrace of a man and a father...

wanderinghawk502 said:We’re about to get a front-row seat to watching everyone scramble to find the loopholes in this legislation just to dodge penalties... To be honest, I have my doubts that they’ll actually pull his license, especially given how inconsistently the law is enforced in practice here.

p.s. I truly hope I’m wrong about this.

Do you seriously think he gives a damn about whether he has a driver's license or not? If he isn't smart enough to stay out of a car with a 2.7 BAC, I doubt he cares one bit about his paperwork.

Oh, bravo to the American police force!! But let me give you just one example of how things are structured in this circus of a country; this is slightly off-topic, but who cares. The current Attorney General, Mr. Rončević, is just like the Secretary at the Department of Defense four years ago when he bought military trucks for $40 million instead of $19 million... and now this same "capable" and "accountable" politician has taken over yet another highly sensitive department... the Department of Justice, where these kinds of cardinal atrocities take place. If the leadership is this bad, the department is bound to follow suit. We really ought to ask how it’s even possible for traffic cops to let some drunk pig get back behind the wheel and drive away after being pulled over. Did that drunken idiot tell the officers the same thing he told them back in Glina when he trashed that entire bar with his exemplary son: "Do you have any idea who you're talking to?" Honestly, it feels like they told him exactly that—that he can sit in his car and drive off right in front of the police if he wants. So, I’d like to pose a question to our exemplary Minister: what on earth is happening in your department? What kind of officers are actually handling traffic control? Because if I’m sober and sitting in my car, what guarantees does this same police force provide me that I won't be killed by some guy like Žužić? Clearly, none.
Now, there is one thing I want to know. Why doesn't the police force here, unlike in the US, have dash cams in their cruisers to record the entire interaction between an officer and a driver? Is it because it's too expensive?? Of course it's expensive, but apparently, we can afford to buy military trucks for double the price? This is America, after all; of course we can!! What a stupid question. It’s just that whenever money needs to be allocated to save the lives of ordinary citizens in this country, suddenly the funds aren't there.
Why aren't potential killers like this automatically hauled before a judge for misdemeanor charges? Why isn't the fine scaled to the offender's income (like in Scandinavia, for instance)? Why are these offenders even given the chance to file appeals, and why do these cases then drag through the courts for a year or two? My god, you could kill someone or cripple them; there should be no appeals, no stalling. The fine should be collected within 15 days, and if you don't have the cash, we'll come to your house and take the table, the washing machine, the couch... whatever it takes. That’s how it works in the US, the country we love to spit on so much. And this isn't just about Žužić... I personally know a case involving a friend of my girlfriend. She was caught driving drunk... thanks to a lawyer and a mountain of appeals, she managed to stall the case until the statute of limitations ran out... and even today, she still drives drunk after a night out. So much for our prevention system and our justice system.
As for the elder Žužić, the main thing is that after the verdict, he told his son that they weren't judging the son of tycoon Žužić, but rather Hrvoj Žužić! Well, obviously the kid isn't entirely responsible; exemplary parents raised him to believe that the rules for him are different from everyone else, because they don't even believe they are equal under the law—they think a different set of rules applies to them. And it makes sense they feel that way, since their friend is our main joker... a man who loves to talk nonsense and doesn't care about the company he keeps. So, dear forum members, when you get in your car, pray ten Hail Marys and hang a crucifix on your rearview mirror—not because you're devout Catholics, but because you're driving on roads patrolled by the American police and the entire system following them, all of which we pay for with our own hard-earned money.

Zuckerberg's old man was born with a 2.0 blood alcohol level
...

...the apple doesn't fall far from the tree—or maybe the tree is just as bad as the apple. ☕

p.s. give me a break—in America, you’d get slapped down immediately for this... but here, he just hops back behind the wheel and drives off right after the cops finish the report... and then I have to sit there and listen to the Police Chief go, "Well, yeah, he just got in his car and left..." ...seriously? Wtf? He gets checked out, starts the engine, and just rolls away???!!!... I can't even believe this... and now he's actually claiming he'll look into filing charges against the kids and suing them for disrespecting the police???????????????????....

God, what a joke. It feels like I'm living in some lawless wasteland.

quietfalcon7 said:Do you seriously think he gives a damn about whether he has a driver's license or not? If he isn't smart enough to stay out of a car with a 2.7 BAC, I doubt he cares one bit about his paperwork.

I suppose his mother will pull some strings; after all, she isn't exactly a terrible judge.

It is quite evident they are proposing early release for the boy under the guise of medical necessity, given he has contracted a lifelong illness that ensures he will never see the inside of a prison cell again.

By that same logic, old Žužić will likely never face incarceration either, as he will spend the rest of his life undergoing treatment for alcoholism.

It is an absolute farce, and my heart goes out to the grieving family who lost their child.

🙂🙂

dustybison2 said:I suppose his mother will pull some strings; after all, she isn't exactly a terrible judge.

It is quite evident they are proposing early release for the boy under the guise of medical necessity, given he has contracted a lifelong illness that ensures he will never see the inside of a prison cell again.

By that same logic, old Žužić will likely never face incarceration either, as he will spend the rest of his life undergoing treatment for alcoholism.

It is an absolute farce, and my heart goes out to the grieving family who lost their child.

🙂🙂

It’s a shame we don't have that secluded island getaway anymore... Marshall actually had a vision for stuff like that. If we still had it today, you’d have all that nonsense—his alcoholic father and their mother, who used to settle everyone's disputes while they just hung out by the coast, enjoying that whole little family atmosphere...🙂

-Give me a break. What are we supposed to throw into Alcatraz then? Drunk drivers? Terrorists? Thugs, predators, crooked politicians, or just any other lowlife?
Pick a lane already, because if you keep using criteria like this, that island is going to be way too crowded for everyone living on it.😁

So, another one this morning in Columbus—some drunk idiot killed a 19-year-old girl... how would you even handle his sentence? In your eyes, doesn't he deserve life in prison without parole?
When someone's wasted, well, things happen—it's a tragedy... but I’d charge a drunk driver with premeditated murder, since they know damn well they shouldn't be behind the wheel while hammered...

hollowtinker18 said:-Give me a break. What are we supposed to throw into Alcatraz then? Drunk drivers? Terrorists? Thugs, predators, crooked politicians, or just any other lowlife?
Pick a lane already, because if you keep using criteria like this, that island is going to be way too crowded for everyone living on it.😁

Look, in this specific instance, the son has escalated from being an alcoholic to being a killer.
The issue isn't about Alcatraz—it’s about how the son of these particular parents gets away with everything due to political influence, while everyone else faces the consequences for much smaller offenses.

Long live the Rule of Law and its institutions!

👎

quietfalcon7 said:So, another one this morning in Columbus—some drunk idiot killed a 19-year-old girl... how would you even handle his sentence? In your eyes, doesn't he deserve life in prison without parole?
When someone's wasted, well, things happen—it's a tragedy... but I’d charge a drunk driver with premeditated murder, since they know damn well they shouldn't be behind the wheel while hammered...

...I guess I actually agree with you for once here....

...I'd probably throw him in solitary for a year... like, two by two feet... and then hit him with another 9 years of hard labor.

...driving along...cops pull him over...blood alcohol level is 0.08...probably threatening the officers...then he just gets back in his car and drives off....look, I honestly don't have anything against the police...really, they're doing a damn good job...but what the hell? why couldn't a single officer pull their weapon and shoot that piece of trash?????????????...I mean, seriously, the guy just keeps driving while wasted....what if he rounds a corner and hits a kid again?
I don't know...I just don't get how things work anymore...is an individual supposed to just take matters into their own hands and play vigilante like it's the Wild West? It's pathetic....who is this guy preventing the police from actually doing their jobs? What's his name...who is this freaking Žužić that some idiot thinks he can just keep driving? Who does he think he is????...some big shot...some legend...who is he????...director of the galaxy? or just some total coward?....I mean...why the hell is Roncevic just sitting up there like a useless stump. Ugh 😠😠😠😠😠

Lisa Kern38 said:...driving along...cops pull him over...blood alcohol level is 0.08...probably threatening the officers...then he just gets back in his car and drives off....look, I honestly don't have anything against the police...really, they're doing a damn good job...but what the hell? why couldn't a single officer pull their weapon and shoot that piece of trash?????????????...I mean, seriously, the guy just keeps driving while wasted....what if he rounds a corner and hits a kid again?
I don't know...I just don't get how things work anymore...is an individual supposed to just take matters into their own hands and play vigilante like it's the Wild West? It's pathetic....who is this guy preventing the police from actually doing their jobs? What's his name...who is this freaking Žužić that some idiot thinks he can just keep driving? Who does he think he is????...some big shot...some legend...who is he????...director of the galaxy? or just some total coward?....I mean...why the hell is Roncevic just sitting up there like a useless stump. Ugh 😠😠😠😠😠

Just realize that people like Žužić essentially set up the police to protect their own assets and interests. It's the same pattern in every major US city—you have a small circle of "bosses" who walked away with massive amounts of public property during various shifts in the system, and they are the true masters of America. They hand-pick the politicians and shape the laws. Most of them stay completely anonymous; honestly, nobody would even know who Žužić was if it weren't for his son's accident. Don't expect every police chief to tell their officers who they can harass and who they can't; if a report ever actually gets filed, it just ends up buried in someone's desk drawer. For a comparison regarding how consistently the law is applied—if you believe the news—they were harassing some American tourist in San Francisco just the other day simply because he dared to say hello and ask how they were doing. This country is a strange place.

Douglas Nelson57 said:Just realize that people like Žužić essentially set up the police to protect their own assets and interests. It's the same pattern in every major US city—you have a small circle of "bosses" who walked away with massive amounts of public property during various shifts in the system, and they are the true masters of America. They hand-pick the politicians and shape the laws. Most of them stay completely anonymous; honestly, nobody would even know who Žužić was if it weren't for his son's accident. Don't expect every police chief to tell their officers who they can harass and who they can't; if a report ever actually gets filed, it just ends up buried in someone's desk drawer. For a comparison regarding how consistently the law is applied—if you believe the news—they were harassing some American tourist in San Francisco just the other day simply because he dared to say hello and ask how they were doing. This country is a strange place.

...look...I know that...I think, anyway...every little town has its local mob boss...but look...journalists dug this up about Žužić....I mean, I guess the whole country knows by now....the entire nation....and what are we doing?...nothing...while we sit here typing this stuff up.....where the hell is that piece of work????...forget politics...Democrats...Republicans...all those assholes....we're talking about pure justice here......our damn legal system is so rotten that my own crap looks like a gourmet pastry compared to it. Look—it wouldn't take much to make things normal...I mean, he's at 2.75...handcuffs, straight to the station...sobriety test...courtroom (in America, you have courts that run 24/7, specifically for people like this)...the judge sets bail at 200 $0.00....and within a month, he's convicted....a month or two in jail..a fine of 100 $0.00....and now we're back to the police not doing their jobs...then what the hell do we even have this country for????????????😠😠😠

Lisa Kern38 said:...look...I know that...I think, anyway...every little town has its local mob boss...but look...journalists dug this up about Žužić....I mean, I guess the whole country knows by now....the entire nation....and what are we doing?...nothing...while we sit here typing this stuff up.....where the hell is that piece of work????...forget politics...Democrats...Republicans...all those assholes....we're talking about pure justice here......our damn legal system is so rotten that my own crap looks like a gourmet pastry compared to it. Look—it wouldn't take much to make things normal...I mean, he's at 2.75...handcuffs, straight to the station...sobriety test...courtroom (in America, you have courts that run 24/7, specifically for people like this)...the judge sets bail at 200 $0.00....and within a month, he's convicted....a month or two in jail..a fine of 100 $0.00....and now we're back to the police not doing their jobs...then what the hell do we even have this country for????????????😠😠😠

We don't have a country. Žužić does.☕