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Participants Richard Wilson4Lisa Walker31rowdytinkerHenry Diaz4Larry Turner3Jeremy Watson16Walter Rogers3hiddengardener84silenteagle11Bryan Anderson4nimbleranger19Olivia Sanders24amberbison18boldgardener93Jeffrey Miller6Maria Boothgoldentrucker17Robin Ramos2Carol Richardson45Raymond BaileyNathan Doyle3Daniel Garcia24Kevin Gonzalez79
amberbison18 amberbison18 Member
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#41 ·
Jeffrey Miller6 said:You really have to think about the future of our infrastructure because...
Like that Senator said... "with birth rates like this, who are we even building roads for?"
We all know exactly who...👍

It seems we’re paving roads at a pace that matches the population growth in Asia and Africa, whereas you all seem to be building them at a speed better suited for a retirement community.
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#42 ·
amberbison18 said:It seems we’re paving roads at a pace that matches the population growth in Asia and Africa, whereas you all seem to be building them at a speed better suited for a retirement community.

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Larry Turner3 Larry Turner3 Active Member
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joined Jun 2009
#43 ·
Jeffrey Miller6 said:Back in the day, the heavy hitters in the German construction industry were mostly Catholic Aryans coming over from places like America or Western Herzegovina. That was the trend then, and it’s pretty much stayed that way even now...👍

Does this imply that Muslims view honest physical labor as something shameful? 🤷
Is that what their work "ethic" is about?
amberbison18 amberbison18 Member
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joined May 2009
#44 ·
Larry Turner3 said:Does this imply that Muslims view honest physical labor as something shameful? 🤷
Is that what their work "ethic" is about?

I suspect that statement might just reflect the work ethic of the individual who said it, rather than those of his fellow countrymen or religious peers. I suppose I say that because, where I grew up, the guys doing the heavy digging were typically called Joe or Bob, while the cleaning crews were usually named Mary or Sue.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#45 ·
Bryan Anderson4 said:Our multi-colored brothers did things too, but never on the scale or for the duration that you guys did and still do. As far as I know, that kind of thing isn't even a thing in our part of the world anymore.

And one more thing: Why are you talking in the past tense? Your white Christian brothers are still doing that same evil today.
It’s easy to apologize for the past—I mean, damn, those were our ancestors; we couldn't change what happened back then or judge it by modern standards. But today, while you're still doing the same things... 😲
Maybe you aren't actually sorry for the past or the present, seeing as you won't even condemn it. It's just like how you view progress, technology, and democracy today ☕

Just a lack of muscle and tech, even though the Arab and Mongol groups managed to pull off much bigger raids...
Robin Ramos2 Robin Ramos2 Active Member
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#46 ·
Lisa Walker31 said:Are you KIDDING me right now... seriously?😂
😍What on earth is this "Islamic Work Ethics" nonsense! 😍

What about filthy Naples then? Is that a Muslim city? And those Southern Italian Mafiosos... I guess they must be "closet" Muslims! 🙏 Just people secretly praying to God in their little mafia fortresses... 🙏 while pretending to be devout Catholics for everyone else!😉

Good grief, man... I swear, you can't deal with this kind of garbage on just any random forum these days...😵

Take my client, for instance. They’re on the clock from 7 AM to 2 PM, which makes it pretty much impossible to catch anyone before 8 or after 1. I mean, really. Their response time for even basic emails or simple questions? It’s anywhere from two weeks to a month and a half, depending on how many different departments they have to drag into the loop. If you need something custom-made, forget about it—you can never get a hold of anyone because they’re always "too busy." Yet, somehow, when they call an emergency meeting on short notice, three times as many people show up as actually need to be there. It’s absurd. And don't even bother with email; they won't touch it because then they might actually have to work and respond within a day or two, which is what we consider normal here in the States. Everything is just "inshallah" this and "inshallah" that, and you need a million different forms for every little thing. Honestly, you should see their public offices... I guess compared to them, the DMV in the US looks like a model of efficiency and politeness.
Lisa Walker31 Lisa Walker31 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#47 ·
Robin Ramos2 said:Take my client, for instance. They’re on the clock from 7 AM to 2 PM, which makes it pretty much impossible to catch anyone before 8 or after 1. I mean, really. Their response time for even basic emails or simple questions? It’s anywhere from two weeks to a month and a half, depending on how many different departments they have to drag into the loop. If you need something custom-made, forget about it—you can never get a hold of anyone because they’re always "too busy." Yet, somehow, when they call an emergency meeting on short notice, three times as many people show up as actually need to be there. It’s absurd. And don't even bother with email; they won't touch it because then they might actually have to work and respond within a day or two, which is what we consider normal here in the States. Everything is just "inshallah" this and "inshallah" that, and you need a million different forms for every little thing. Honestly, you should see their public offices... I guess compared to them, the DMV in the US looks like a model of efficiency and politeness.

Well, look... I’ve got "clients" who are just plain "Christians" and they won't lift a finger to help! Half of them are living off welfare! You've got hardworking Chinese, Indians, Buddhists, Muslims... they're stepping in and taking over jobs without any trouble at all..
They won't even go to school! 🙄 ...but that's because their Pakistani, Indian, Chinese... and everyone else... are swarming the education system.
They don't have kids much either (because they can't be bothered 😠 dealing with toddlers, diapers, and messes)... so the government is forced to import labor! That's what we call "immigration"!😉
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
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#48 ·
In the West, you see people from certain Islamic countries who have this reputation for being "hardworking," but honestly, most of them operate on the exact same mental blueprint. A woman stays home, takes care of the kids, and collects a decent government subsidy, staying tucked away in the house. He works for maybe three years before he spends the next ten coasting on disability checks and welfare... That’s just how the game is played.
Raymond Bailey Raymond Bailey Member
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#49 ·
Carol Richardson45 said:In the West, you see people from certain Islamic countries who have this reputation for being "hardworking," but honestly, most of them operate on the exact same mental blueprint. A woman stays home, takes care of the kids, and collects a decent government subsidy, staying tucked away in the house. He works for maybe three years before he spends the next ten coasting on disability checks and welfare... That’s just how the game is played.

I’ve heard a pretty similar story—apparently, it's a massive trend over in Scandinavia too.
Nathan Doyle3 Nathan Doyle3 Newcomer
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#50 ·
Carol Richardson45 said:In the West, you see people from certain Islamic countries who have this reputation for being "hardworking," but honestly, most of them operate on the exact same mental blueprint. A woman stays home, takes care of the kids, and collects a decent government subsidy, staying tucked away in the house. He works for maybe three years before he spends the next ten coasting on disability checks and welfare... That’s just how the game is played.

Give me a break, where on earth did you hear that?
Even if it were true, why are you complaining? It isn't your fault if you're incapable of having children or simply don't want them. My advice: try a little harder. If you don't know how, there's no shame in asking.
Newborns are more than welcome in those countries because their elderly population is exploding—thanks to everyone living longer—while birth rates have plummeted into the basement. Who is going to build the country for them in the coming decades?
Besides, if it's true, just keep quiet and be positive about it. 😉
The government sees the upside and acts in its own interest. They aren't blinded by Islamophobia like you are, unable to see even two inches past your own nose. 😳
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
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#51 ·
Nathan Doyle3 said:Give me a break, where on earth did you hear that?
Even if it were true, why are you complaining? It isn't your fault if you're incapable of having children or simply don't want them. My advice: try a little harder. If you don't know how, there's no shame in asking.
Newborns are more than welcome in those countries because their elderly population is exploding—thanks to everyone living longer—while birth rates have plummeted into the basement. Who is going to build the country for them in the coming decades?
Besides, if it's true, just keep quiet and be positive about it. 😉
The government sees the upside and acts in its own interest. They aren't blinded by Islamophobia like you are, unable to see even two inches past your own nose. 😳


Listen here, kid—call me whatever name you want. As far as children go, I've got plenty, and if you're feeling lonely, I could probably whip some up for you since I'm in peak shape. Just bring your wife over and I'll show you how it's done.
But I'm not going to waste my breath on your insults. People from Islamic nations bring their own customs and systems with them. I’d point to the Turks (though even they have been acting crazy lately) as being somewhat different from Moroccans or other Arabs, Pakistanis, Somalis, and so on... But most of them are just living off welfare in the countries that took them in. They play the Westerners, living off the system instead of contributing, all while trying to tear things down from the inside by forming terrorist cells and acting like they're still back in some remote village where they had nothing.
And who is going to advance countries like Germany, France, or the Netherlands?? Not the children and descendants of people who sit at home praying, collecting benefits funded by the taxes of people working themselves to death. Of course they will. They'll just bring new problems, dealers, and criminals, because those kids have nothing to learn from anyone. They learn from an uncle who cruises the streets all day, a mother who stays wrapped up at home and still doesn't understand the language of the country she lives in after 30 years, or an older brother and relatives who have already been booked by the police twenty times...
Stop talking nonsense, Eagle, when you clearly have no clue...
Daniel Garcia24 Daniel Garcia24 Active Member
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#52 ·
Jeremy Watson16 said:"it’s no coincidence that Protestant countries are tech leaders," like Japan... Sony, Panasonic, Nintendo, Sega, and a million other brands...

"Catholic countries are strong in art and tourism" (haha... listen to him mention tourism🤣... I wonder how much they enjoy picking olives in the sun)... so let's compare a Catholic nation like, say, America, with a lagging Orthodox state like Greece... who do you think comes out on top? 🤷

Ireland
rowdytinker rowdytinker Active Member
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#53 ·
Daniel Garcia24 said:Ireland

Then you have Ireland, Spain, Austria, Portugal, France... He seems to have completely wiped from his memory those fifty years of communist rule and the issues with federal wealth distribution. Plus, the investment levels in America haven't exactly been stellar lately either.🤣
Kevin Gonzalez79 Kevin Gonzalez79 Active Member
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#54 ·
I don't believe religion is the primary driver here, though it’s worth noting.

My observations come from my time spent with Libyans and Albanians.

Back in the early 80s, I traveled to Libya with some older gentlemen. Most of the workforce there consisted of foreign contractors—people from places like the Philippines or Germany. The local Libyans, however, rarely actually performed any labor.

The common consensus among everyone was their sheer laziness. Even as a kid, I couldn't help but notice how they would just lounge on mattresses in the shade all day.

During Ramadan, the situation worsened significantly. Instead of just sitting around smoking, they would spend most of their time sleeping.

That said, I must admit that the Albanians (Muslims) gave a completely different impression. They seemed like incredibly industrious people; when working for themselves—whether in construction or running their own businesses—they worked tirelessly from dawn until dusk.

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