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The Big Short trailer? No, it's Vice (2018)

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Brandon Evans5 Brandon Evans5 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2018
#1 ·
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So, we’re looking at this movie centered around Dick Cheney, who was basically the powerhouse behind the scenes during the George W. Bush administration. You’ve got Christian Bale in the lead role—and honestly, he’s so unrecognizable it’s wild—with Sam Rockwell stepping in as Bush, plus we get to see Amy Adams and Steve Carell in the mix too. It’s all being helmed by Adam McKay, the guy who gave us that incredible flick The Big Short

The trailer just dropped, and if you're looking to catch it in theaters here in the US, mark your calendars for December 21st.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Peter Reed70 Peter Reed70 Active Member
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joined Oct 2015
#2 ·
Just watched the trailer, looks pretty solid! From what I can tell, they’re definitely gonna paint Bush as the total villain of the story.
Mark Gray3 Mark Gray3 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2014
#3 ·
Bale's makeup is honestly one of the best I've seen in cinema. I absolutely loved The Big Short, so I'm secretly hoping this turns out just as good. That said, I don't think this movie would work with that pseudo-documentary vibe, especially if they try to play it for laughs like Adam McKay did in The Big Short. Having Steve Carell playing Rumsfeld might actually be overkill... Sam Rockwell seems totally solid as G. W. B. based on the trailer, though (regardless of how much of a disaster Bush actually was)
Nancy Williams58 Nancy Williams58 Active Member
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#4 ·
Peter Reed70 said:Just watched the trailer, looks pretty solid! From what I can tell, they’re definitely gonna paint Bush as the total villain of the story.

Paint him as a villain? 🙂Just show him for who he actually was. A jerk. They don't even need to make stuff up.
Daniel Wells Daniel Wells Member
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#5 ·
He’s put on some weight again—probably not the best idea to be jumping around like that, but I’m sure he’s got experts looking after him.
The resemblance is actually wild, though—really impressive!

And yeah... this definitely smells like an Oscar contender in several categories.
Noah Roberts46 Noah Roberts46 Regular
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joined Jun 2021
#6 ·
Expectations for this one are sky-high. Bale. 🙏
northerndriver northerndriver Member
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joined May 2018
#7 ·
wow, they really nailed those portrayals... Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush. I was reading somewhere that Bale actually put on some weight this time by working strictly with a nutritionist.
bolddrifter16 bolddrifter16 Member
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joined Jun 2014
#8 ·
Man, I can't wait for this. 👋
Bale is just on another level.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#9 ·
looks pretty promising ☕
Austin Wilson60 Austin Wilson60 Member
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#10 ·
Honestly, this movie is just straight-up mediocre... I mean, Rockwell was a total miss—he didn't capture anything about Bush, from his look to how he actually carried himself. If you actually want to see what a real portrayal of Bush and Dick Stone looks like, just go watch Stone's "W." instead...
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#11 ·
Austin Wilson60 said:Honestly, this movie is just straight-up mediocre... I mean, Rockwell was a total miss—he didn't capture anything about Bush, from his look to how he actually carried himself. If you actually want to see what a real portrayal of Bush and Dick Stone looks like, just go watch Stone's "W." instead...

You're the failure here 😁

Man, honestly? I actually liked Rockwell the MOST in that trailer
That classic stare and the way he moves his mouth... I definitely didn't see that kind of detail in W.🤷
northerndriver northerndriver Member
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#12 ·
I gotta say, Rockwell totally nailed the Bush look, it’s honestly spot on. If this doesn't end up being Oscarworthy, I don't know what will be... You can already see some of the heavy hitters lining up for the lead role too: Bale, Malek, Cooper...
bolddrifter16 bolddrifter16 Member
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#13 ·
'Vice' Stars Christian Bale, Amy Adams, & Director Adam McKay Talk Dick Cheney Film | THR
It’s a pretty short interview—but hey, I'll take what I can get. 🎉

I think I've watched the trailer at least 20 times now. 🙂
Amanda Robinson4 Amanda Robinson4 Active Member
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joined Nov 2014
#14 ·
First off, McKay is such an unconventional pick to direct a biopic, which honestly gives the whole thing a refreshing sense of originality right out of the gate. He’s got that signature style you recognize from The Big Short—super critical, heavy on the satire, and just biting...

The movie might just be defined by those incredible transformations from Bale and Rockwell, who basically carry the entire thing on their backs. Now, Cheney himself? His personality isn't exactly riveting, but when you look at him through the lens of everything happening in politics and his specific role... man, he's a fascinating study.

As for Bush, he's pretty much portrayed exactly how people usually see him—sort of like a puppet who ended up in the driver's seat by accident. He lacked the experience and the know-how for the presidency, especially since Cheney was the one pulling the strings behind the scenes. It gave Cheney that massive power he had been chasing his whole career, especially after failing to secure the Republican nomination back then.

That power, of course, led to the regime's most infamous legacy: the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. All those political spins and maneuvers resulted in so many unnecessary losses on both sides... and let's not forget how his oil company's revenue skyrocketed by over 500% during that era.

The film uses a ton of archival footage to contrast with the movie scenes, paired with that classic McKay commentary where he tries to break down complex concepts and explain why certain decisions regarding Cheney actually mattered. It felt way more seamless in The Big Short, though. Here, it feels a bit unfinished at times, jumping around with sharp cuts and losing its clear focus as the story winds down toward the end.

At the end of the day, it's not a bad movie! There are plenty of fun moments, and the message is loud and clear. The political context feels especially relevant right now with the Trump administration in charge, given how much this focuses on the Republican agenda. While The Big Short kind of made you root for the corporate guys, this movie makes sure you don't feel any sympathy for Cheney at all. Still, Bale does a fantastic job and feels totally real, and Rockwell is just as great.
Lawrence Baker2 Lawrence Baker2 Newcomer
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#15 ·
This was an absolute train wreck. All that hype just to end up with nothing at all. 0.
Adam Miller2 Adam Miller2 Newcomer
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#16 ·
I barely made it to the end of this movie, I really did. It was honestly negligible. Just plain boring. It tries way too hard to act like some deep, intellectual piece with that pseudo-documentary vibe and all those flashbacks, but it’s just a total fail. The only thing worth mentioning was the makeup. Thank God I didn't waste my money on a theater ticket.

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vividstag16 vividstag16 Member
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#17 ·
Honestly, a fantastic movie... I’d even rank it higher than The Big Short.

But look... this isn't for people who couldn't care less about politics. So, if that's you, just steer clear at all costs, regardless of how Oscarworthy the acting is.

And whatever you do, do NOT take your wife or girlfriend to see this one... unless you're looking to sleep on the couch for a week!
coppermoose11 coppermoose11 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2013
#18 ·
Great movie!
bluesurfer6 bluesurfer6 Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#19 ·
Seriously great movie—it hooks you right from the jump and stays interesting until the credits roll. Definitely worth a watch!
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#20 ·
Bale looks absolutely incredible, but I keep hearing nothing but bad things about the movie itself. Still haven't found the time to sit down and watch it.

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