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Starving Gaza Strip residents spend $130 million in Egypt in just two days

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Participants Paul Wells17hiddengardener84frozenheron25Olivia Sanders24goldentrucker17Anthony Watson24velvetmarlin24Brian Cox41goldensailor15Daniel Wells4
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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#21 ·
frozenheron25 said:The difference is, Pakistan, India, and Israel aren't being run by religious maniacs and fanatics right now.

Look, it doesn't matter what you or some person in the West thinks about the regimes or the fanatics in charge over there. It’s simple math: if Israel has the nukes, then Iran needs them too.
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#22 ·
goldentrucker17 said:Look, it doesn't matter what you or some person in the West thinks about the regimes or the fanatics in charge over there. It’s simple math: if Israel has the nukes, then Iran needs them too.

First off, Israel doesn't even have nuclear weapons.
2. Iran is an NPT signatory—so their whole nuclear development thing is nothing more than a glorified phase of Taqiyeh.😉
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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#23 ·
Paul Wells17 said:First off, Israel doesn't even have nuclear weapons.
2. Iran is an NPT signatory—so their whole nuclear development thing is nothing more than a glorified phase of Taqiyeh.😉

Look, I never actually said Iran *has* nukes right now. I said they *should* have them.
And honestly? They're gonna get 'em.
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#24 ·
A view on the Gaza Strip from Egypt:
People aren't starving nearly as much as the news said:An American friend of mine just got back from visiting his grandparents in the Gaza Strip (he said he basically just hopped the fence and back—no one's even guarding the borders, apparently), and he was telling me that this whole “starving masses searching for scraps” narrative is total garbage. He was laughing about how they're actually out there buying motorcycles, mattresses, and TVs and other stuff you'd need to survive (the media is reporting the exact same thing, so if you don't believe me, you're just being an idiot). He even mentioned how some of his relatives, after heading to Al Areesh-on The First day of The “ People Power ” event-for for a little vacation, were like, “Is this really Areesh? This place stinks! The Gaza Strip is way better!” and they headed right back the next day. He also noted that the price of an AK-47 in the Gaza Strip has plummeted to a mere 400 bucks. Apparently, supply is outstripping demand. Yay for open Borders!

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Yeah, civilization...
velvetmarlin24 velvetmarlin24 Member
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#25 ·
goldentrucker17 said:You really think you've got it all figured out, don't you? Ever wonder what the Bible actually says about people who don't believe in God?
The biggest issue with forums like this is people who read maybe one or two books and suddenly think they're experts.
You just have to keep reading and reading.☕

How long do I need to read? Until I finish the Quran and realize everything I've read up until now
is basically garbage or just Zionist lies and American propaganda designed to manipulate the public?😂
Brian Cox41 Brian Cox41 Member
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#26 ·
velvetmarlin24 said:How long do I need to read? Until I finish the Quran and realize everything I've read up until now
is basically garbage or just Zionist lies and American propaganda designed to manipulate the public?😂

Look, I've read the Quran, and plenty of other books too. I definitely didn't walk away with that impression. Just like with the Bible, the Quran—and pretty much any holy book out there—contains views that aren't exactly easy for us to stomach.
But why the intense hatred for the faith specifically? Don't you see that the hate we carry just ends up exposing our own fears and frustrations?
frozenheron25 frozenheron25 Member
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#27 ·
Brian Cox41 said:Look, I've read the Quran, and plenty of other books too. I definitely didn't walk away with that impression. Just like with the Bible, the Quran—and pretty much any holy book out there—contains views that aren't exactly easy for us to stomach.
But why the intense hatred for the faith specifically? Don't you see that the hate we carry just ends up exposing our own fears and frustrations?

There’s plenty of stuff in Buddhism or Hinduism that an American Christian wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole, yet people don't go out of their way to hate those religions—in fact, some people even think they're pretty cool.

Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about Islam?
Brian Cox41 Brian Cox41 Member
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#28 ·
frozenheron25 said:There’s plenty of stuff in Buddhism or Hinduism that an American Christian wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole, yet people don't go out of their way to hate those religions—in fact, some people even think they're pretty cool.

Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about Islam?

You've got it wrong. Muslims don't hate people just for being different faiths—it's more about people who try to stop them from practicing their religion the way they want to. I mean, can you imagine someone trying to ban Orthodox Jews from practicing their faith?
frozenheron25 frozenheron25 Member
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#29 ·
Brian Cox41 said:You've got it wrong. Muslims don't hate people just for being different faiths—it's more about people who try to stop them from practicing their religion the way they want to. I mean, can you imagine someone trying to ban Orthodox Jews from practicing their faith?

Oh sure, let’s just leave it up to their own whims and imagination to decide who counts as "denying" them rights, shall we?
So I guess Danes can just do whatever they want and draw whatever they feel like in their own country?

Look at this forum right now. It's like the owners of the Monitor went over to some radical site or an Iranian forum to stir the pot, because suddenly a bunch of Muslims have flooded in here to tell us who gets to "deny" what or who's allowed to say what about Islam.

Real interesting stuff...
Paul Wells17 Paul Wells17 Active MemberOP
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#30 ·
Brian Cox41 said:You've got it wrong. Muslims don't hate people just for being different faiths—it's more about people who try to stop them from practicing their religion the way they want to. I mean, can you imagine someone trying to ban Orthodox Jews from practicing their faith?

Look at the facts. Based on Quranic Verses, various interpretations, and Traditions, Muslim Clerics state: The Jews are the Descendants of Apes, Pigs, and Other Animals[

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cg...=sr&ID=SR01102

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goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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#31 ·
frozenheron25 said:Oh sure, let’s just leave it up to their own whims and imagination to decide who counts as "denying" them rights, shall we?
So I guess Danes can just do whatever they want and draw whatever they feel like in their own country?

Look at this forum right now. It's like the owners of the Monitor went over to some radical site or an Iranian forum to stir the pot, because suddenly a bunch of Muslims have flooded in here to tell us who gets to "deny" what or who's allowed to say what about Islam.

Real interesting stuff...


😕 You getting a little worked up there? Who's to blame the Danes when they think it's the ultimate freedom to draw Muhammad with a dog's head.
I'm not even Muslim, but I'm certainly not defending that kind of Western mindset.
frozenheron25 frozenheron25 Member
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#32 ·
Ahmadinejad said:Yeah, that really says a lot about Islam.
So that means Islam actually has some value. If we ever started feeling any sympathy for it, we'd immediately start wondering where we went wrong. 🙂))


Nah, it just means Buddhism and Hinduism are religions built on peace and love.

BTW, Buddhists and Hindus don't really have beef with Christians, nor do they hate them.

Does that tell you anything else about Islam?
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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#33 ·
Paul Wells17 said:Look at the facts. Based on Quranic Verses, various interpretations, and Traditions, Muslim Clerics state: The Jews are the Descendants of Apes, Pigs, and Other Animals[

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cg...=sr&ID=SR01102

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...that stuff isn't even in the text, you're totally misrepresenting what's actually there, so the real issue lies with those "Interpretations" and how certain individuals twist things just like those Zionist types do, though I never once went after all of Judaism...

...you clearly have some serious issues with basic comprehension, and honestly, what you're trying to push here is nothing short of embarrassing...
frozenheron25 frozenheron25 Member
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#34 ·
goldentrucker17 said:😕 You getting a little worked up there? Who's to blame the Danes when they think it's the ultimate freedom to draw Muhammad with a dog's head.
I'm not even Muslim, but I'm certainly not defending that kind of Western mindset.

Look, I’m just defending the right of Americans to do whatever they want in their own damn houses.

If Muslims can't handle it, they can pack their bags and head out to the desert or maybe Canada.

I don't give a damn what they do in their own countries either.
frozenheron25 frozenheron25 Member
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#35 ·
goldensailor15 said:...that stuff isn't even in the text, you're totally misrepresenting what's actually there, so the real issue lies with those "Interpretations" and how certain individuals twist things just like those Zionist types do, though I never once went after all of Judaism...

...you clearly have some serious issues with basic comprehension, and honestly, what you're trying to push here is nothing short of embarrassing...


http://www.faithfreedom.org/
goldensailor15 goldensailor15 Active Member
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#36 ·
frozenheron25 said:http://www.faithfreedom.org/

?

http://www.bemuf.org/kuran/

...just find what was mentioned... I typed "Quran" into Google and this page popped up...
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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#37 ·
frozenheron25 said:Look, I’m just defending the right of Americans to do whatever they want in their own damn houses.

If Muslims can't handle it, they can pack their bags and head out to the desert or maybe Canada.

I don't give a damn what they do in their own countries either.


Give me a break. Then why on earth are they drawing Muhammad, huh? It's not like he's a Dane 👎
frozenheron25 frozenheron25 Member
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#38 ·
goldentrucker17 said:Give me a break. Then why on earth are they drawing Muhammad, huh? It's not like he's a Dane 👎

Look, nobody cares what you hang on your walls at home—that's your business.

But if your Muslim neighbor suddenly showed up at your door complaining about some art on your wall and demanding you take it down, would you just roll over and let him walk all over you?
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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#39 ·
frozenheron25 said:Look, nobody cares what you hang on your walls at home—that's your business.

But if your Muslim neighbor suddenly showed up at your door complaining about some art on your wall and demanding you take it down, would you just roll over and let him walk all over you?

Your analogy makes zero sense. Look, I have every right to have a cross in my home and it doesn't bother a Muslim person one bit. But if I go around drawing Muhammad with a dog's head and plastering those drawings all over the neighborhood, yeah, people are gonna want to knock some sense into me because I'd be a complete idiot for doing that.
Sorry if you can't grasp the difference between basic civil liberties and straight-up desecrating someone else's faith.
Those kinds of drawings have absolutely nothing to do with freedom.
Brian Cox41 Brian Cox41 Member
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#40 ·
Paul Wells17 said:Look at the facts. Based on Quranic Verses, various interpretations, and Traditions, Muslim Clerics state: The Jews are the Descendants of Apes, Pigs, and Other Animals[

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cg...=sr&ID=SR01102

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I really have no interest in sinking down to your level—and honestly, those fire emojis you're using? You're just adorable. 👎

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