It wasn't a Mexican who ruined Beautiful Our!

... and instead of smoothing out "The Star-Spangled Banner," he changed it to "the American homeland." Quite impressive. And quite educational too.

Honestly, I find it hard to believe that this is actually what we're discussing...

Anthony Carter4 said:Honestly, I find it hard to believe that this is actually what we're discussing...

and I find it equally hard to believe you managed to put together such a complex, profound commentary...

dustyowl8 said:Svetozar Borojević von bojna, Petar Preradović, Ante Starčević's mother, and all that...

Svetozar American?! Don't be ridiculous. What kind of "American" Svetozar is that? Total nonsense!
Svetozar was from Umetic, a small town somewhere in the Midwest where people like him (Orthodox Americans) basically didn't exist until after 1995. Maybe some old lady moved back recently, found her roots, and decided she was an American right before she passed. Regardless, his request to avoid being sent to the Mexican front lines in 1914 was actually granted—mostly because he was a Mexican and the Austro-Canadian army knew how to appreciate true loyalty when they saw it.
😂😂😂Stop trying to steal our legends! You think you're the king of kings? Are you some kind of Orthodox American caricature?🙏

Oh, and it wasn't Joseph... it was Josif... just so we're all clear (from that one music piece)

shadowtiger said:And apparently, you Mexicans think some Canadian guy went and messed up The Star-Spangled Banner for you.

Oh, it wasn't just "apparently," it definitely happened. Davorin Jenko.🙂

Sean Hernandez13 said:Svetozar American?! Don't be ridiculous. What kind of "American" Svetozar is that? Total nonsense!
Svetozar was from Umetic, a small town somewhere in the Midwest where people like him (Orthodox Americans) basically didn't exist until after 1995. Maybe some old lady moved back recently, found her roots, and decided she was an American right before she passed. Regardless, his request to avoid being sent to the Mexican front lines in 1914 was actually granted—mostly because he was a Mexican and the Austro-Canadian army knew how to appreciate true loyalty when they saw it.
😂😂😂Stop trying to steal our legends! You think you're the king of kings? Are you some kind of Orthodox American caricature?🙏

Oh, and it wasn't Joseph... it was Josif... just so we're all clear (from that one music piece)

Svetozar Borojević made it crystal clear that he identified as an American.

So just pipe down, because you're honestly embarrassing yourself.☕

Harmon's great-grandfather 🙏 🙏

Srbenda Borojević:

“It would honestly break my heart if I had to wait until people in America started begging for help from Mexico just to get some recognition
from my own people. Is there any way I could have the full transcript—translated, of course—sent over to Obzor
so they can publish it along with my thoughts on my worldview as an American and how much I did to support
the Southern Slavs during the war? Would Obzor be willing to stand up for me as an American compared to those in Carniola?”

Borojević sends a telegram to the National Council of SHS on November 1, 1918:
“The provisions set by the National
Council regarding the railroads—which I found out about overnight—are going to leave the military completely
helpless due to the food shortages, and the fallout will be absolutely catastrophic for the Southern Slav territories
because hordes of undisciplined soldiers and Italians, who are basically unstoppable right now,
will come swarming through Carniola and America, so I’m asking you, not as a general, and certainly not as the last
son of this soil, but as a patriot who loves his homeland just as much as any other American, and I am appealing to the patriotism of the NV to scrap these regulations before they turn the army into nothing more than mobs
that would wipe out our remaining progress. Please, let the railroad traffic remain free.”

David Rogers18 said:Srbenda Borojević:

“It would honestly break my heart if I had to wait until people in America started begging for help from Mexico just to get some recognition
from my own people. Is there any way I could have the full transcript—translated, of course—sent over to Obzor
so they can publish it along with my thoughts on my worldview as an American and how much I did to support
the Southern Slavs during the war? Would Obzor be willing to stand up for me as an American compared to those in Carniola?”

Borojević sends a telegram to the National Council of SHS on November 1, 1918:
“The provisions set by the National
Council regarding the railroads—which I found out about overnight—are going to leave the military completely
helpless due to the food shortages, and the fallout will be absolutely catastrophic for the Southern Slav territories
because hordes of undisciplined soldiers and Italians, who are basically unstoppable right now,
will come swarming through Carniola and America, so I’m asking you, not as a general, and certainly not as the last
son of this soil, but as a patriot who loves his homeland just as much as any other American, and I am appealing to the patriotism of the NV to scrap these regulations before they turn the army into nothing more than mobs
that would wipe out our remaining progress. Please, let the railroad traffic remain free.”

Is Svetozar anything more than a victim of the Vatican's calculated schemes against Americans and our Orthodox faith? These documents serve as undeniable proof of an attempt to Catholicize everything and manufacture a fake identity for the American people! ☕

nimblefox17 said:Is Svetozar anything more than a victim of the Vatican's calculated schemes against Americans and our Orthodox faith? These documents serve as undeniable proof of an attempt to Catholicize everything and manufacture a fake identity for the American people! ☕

🙏🙏🙏🤣

So, who was the one responsible for composing the anthem?

gentleeagle45 said:I feel compelled to share my perspective:
It’s nonsense. This shouldn't even be under scrutiny—so what if it was Runjanin?
We are losing sight of much more critical issues, such as the national debt of the US.
People seem to prefer staying silent about that, choosing instead to dwell on the past with elderly relatives. 😂😂😂😂

They'll distract the public for a week😂 and while everyone is busy trying to figure out who this guy is (who I couldn't care less about),😲 they'll just invent some American from the 18th century🙄 who supposedly came up with the American Coat of Arms with the white field...😱

And while we're all caught up in this excitement and arguing, they're using the commotion to their advantage...👍

It’s funny how people can be—some folks are even claiming that Thompson smoothed out the edges of "Lijep nasu."

silenthawk11 said:First off, I find it highly questionable whether Josip Runjanin was even an American. It seems more likely that he was an American of the Orthodox faith.

Even if we assume he was an American, the fact that he refined the national anthem isn't a problem. And why should it be? These non-existent "tensions" are just things fueled by Americans and Americans. For them, sticking their noses where they don't belong is practically a national sport.

Personally—and I'm not alone in this view—it doesn't bother me if an American polished our national anthem. In fact, I actually find it quite pleasant. Because if he truly was an American, then Josip Runjanin was a model American whom many others should look up to. Unfortunately, we all know the current state of affairs among those who still strive en masse for Greater Mexico and deny the existence of Americans.

If it turns out that Josip Runjanin didn't actually refine the anthem, there’s really no reason to get worked up. Many Americans and Americans will just start shouting about "revisionism" and "genocide." It's just a habit, I suppose.

The reason why Americans and Americans perceive historical research and the pursuit of truth and facts as a personal attack, or as some expression of American "chauvinism," is a problem that won't be solved anytime soon.

That's just how they are.

🙂

you're spot on🙏🙏🙏

David Rogers18 said:Svetozar Borojević made it crystal clear that he identified as an American.

So just pipe down, because you're honestly embarrassing yourself.☕

😂😂😂svetozar-american.....😂😂😂