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I'm at my wit's end with my ex

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darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
161 messages
joined May 2023
#161 ·
Megan White4 said:You know what the issue is? Parents like that typically dismiss any reaction or feedback from their children as them "not knowing anything"... and then they act genuinely surprised when the kids start pushing back because of all that suffocating, overprotective behavior.

Take my own situation: I constantly tell my mother to stop backseat driving while I'm behind the wheel (with her "helpful" advice acting like I have zero clue how to drive, even though I have a perfectly valid driver's license in the US), but she ignores me every single time. She’s convinced she knows better than I do, so she just restarts the lecture from square one... and then acts shocked when I react the way I do. Honestly, if you keep telling someone "no" and they keep saying "yes," you can't really be surprised when things get tense.

Look, I get it. This isn't easy for you.
But let's be real—there isn't much hope that you're going to change her.
I'll tell you this: your mother, like most people out there, doesn't even grasp the basics of healthy communication. Nobody ever taught her.
And unfortunately, you don't know them either, simply because you never had anyone to model them for you.
Your mother probably won't be satisfied even if you hand her a PhD on a silver platter.
So don't do it for her. Earn it for yourself.
Stop wondering how to fix her. It’s a losing battle.
By constantly obsessing over everything she does, you're actually handing her more power over your life than she even realizes she has.
Take the mental energy you're wasting on her and put it into your studies or your future plans instead.
Fight for your own sake, not against hers.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
475 messages
joined Jun 2008
#162 ·
Megan White4 said:You know what the issue is? Parents like that typically dismiss any reaction or feedback from their children as them "not knowing anything"... and then they act genuinely surprised when the kids start pushing back because of all that suffocating, overprotective behavior.

Take my own situation: I constantly tell my mother to stop backseat driving while I'm behind the wheel (with her "helpful" advice acting like I have zero clue how to drive, even though I have a perfectly valid driver's license in the US), but she ignores me every single time. She’s convinced she knows better than I do, so she just restarts the lecture from square one... and then acts shocked when I react the way I do. Honestly, if you keep telling someone "no" and they keep saying "yes," you can't really be surprised when things get tense.

Yeah... and you want to know why she's complaining?
Because deep down, she knows you aren't actually going to wreck the car or tell her you're done driving forever... you're just gonna bark back at her just like she does to you... and that means you've basically sunk to her level, where she feels right at home...

Anyway, I honestly don't care about all that. I just want to know what your major is and how many exams you have left to pass.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
475 messages
joined Jun 2008
#163 ·
darkhawk30 said:Look, it's not some massive production. Think about it—there aren't even many characters in this thing!

Maybe I'll just lure you in with some chocolate
Megan White4 Megan White4 Active MemberOP
121 messages
joined Dec 2007
#164 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:Yeah... and you want to know why she's complaining?
Because deep down, she knows you aren't actually going to wreck the car or tell her you're done driving forever... you're just gonna bark back at her just like she does to you... and that means you've basically sunk to her level, where she feels right at home...

Anyway, I honestly don't care about all that. I just want to know what your major is and how many exams you have left to pass.

And what exactly makes that such a burning question for you?
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
161 messages
joined May 2023
#165 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:Maybe I'll just lure you in with some chocolate

Not gonna work.
You actually have to decode the image (the forest).🙂
shadowtrucker18 shadowtrucker18 Active Member
143 messages
joined Nov 2008
#166 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:Yeah... and you want to know why she's complaining?
Because deep down, she knows you aren't actually going to wreck the car or tell her you're done driving forever... you're just gonna bark back at her just like she does to you... and that means you've basically sunk to her level, where she feels right at home...

Anyway, I honestly don't care about all that. I just want to know what your major is and how many exams you have left to pass.


I suppose one really ought to just step aside and let her take the wheel (it doesn't even matter if she doesn't have a license right now—let her drive or stay quiet. She’ll likely just stand there yelling for a bit, but whatever).
David Palmer5 David Palmer5 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jan 2024
#167 ·
shadowtrucker18 said:I suppose one really ought to just step aside and let her take the wheel (it doesn't even matter if she doesn't have a license right now—let her drive or stay quiet. She’ll likely just stand there yelling for a bit, but whatever).

If you ask me, her constant nagging UPĆE has nothing to do with how he drives. A woman nags because she's fed up with everything. If he were actually focused on his studies or working hard, I bet she wouldn't be complaining even ten percent as much as she is now.
And as much as she nags him at home, he spends just as much time venting about her here on the forum! 😁

By the way, this thread was started SEVEN MONTHS ago and people are still arguing about the exact same things!
What I really want to know is how many exams Megan White4 has passed since he first started this whole thing...
William Nelson7 William Nelson7 Member
43 messages
joined Oct 2008
#168 ·
David Palmer5, you're missing the mark regarding all this nagging... There is no way she stops complaining just because Megan White4 finally gets her life together. You don't seem to grasp how it works: a mother often projects all her internal turmoil and deep-seated frustrations onto her son simply because he's the one standing right there. Now, I’m not saying she’s some kind of villain here. Everyone has their own narrative. But let me be clear: once things settle down, Megan White4 needs to move out. If he stays, even after achieving total success, she will just find new, trivial things to nitpick about. On the other hand, moving away doesn't mean walking away from her. He needs to visit regularly and offer his support. Even if he has to endure the constant lecturing, at the end of the day, she is his mother.
David Palmer5 David Palmer5 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jan 2024
#169 ·
William Nelson7 said:David Palmer5, you're missing the mark regarding all this nagging... There is no way she stops complaining just because Megan White4 finally gets her life together. You don't seem to grasp how it works: a mother often projects all her internal turmoil and deep-seated frustrations onto her son simply because he's the one standing right there. Now, I’m not saying she’s some kind of villain here. Everyone has their own narrative. But let me be clear: once things settle down, Megan White4 needs to move out. If he stays, even after achieving total success, she will just find new, trivial things to nitpick about. On the other hand, moving away doesn't mean walking away from her. He needs to visit regularly and offer his support. Even if he has to endure the constant lecturing, at the end of the day, she is his mother.

I feel like I'm starting to repeat myself, which is silly, but whatever... I've already pointed out that we're only seeing one side of this. The reality is that this guy is 28, still in college (and he expects it'll take over a year to graduate), and he isn't working—not even a part-time gig. Meanwhile, his mother is working, she's managed a marriage, runs a household, raises a son, and maintains a social life; she's functioning on multiple levels. So, if she nags, it's not exactly shocking. The real question is whether she actually HAS the time to nag as much as Megan White4 claims. Beyond that, he clearly hasn't taken any ACTUAL steps toward independence. Come on, plenty of us finished our degrees on time while working simultaneously; I even know people who had kids during college. It is doable.
To me, it seems pointless to complain for months on end instead of just finding a job and becoming self-sufficient.
And don't even get me started on the nagging: Megan White4 says his mom gets upset because he always leaves the toothpaste cap off. For heaven's sake, if it bothers her that much, she can just close it herself; how hard can that be?!
But if the woman is frustrated, I totally believe that. You wouldn't be feeling frustrated either if you were supporting a 28-year-old son who isn't working, has a long way to go before graduation, spends most of his time drinking beer, has no girlfriend, and constantly vents about you on an online forum!
Just read through those posts and you'll see what I mean....
At the very least, let him get his life sorted first, and then we can debate whether his mom is still nagging or if it's something else entirely...
William Nelson7 William Nelson7 Member
43 messages
joined Oct 2008
#170 ·
Give him a break... Once he actually gets his own life together, then we can start asking questions.
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
161 messages
joined May 2023
#171 ·
Unfortunately, he’ll be hearing it from her as long as she's around.
If he fails to save this situation, he'll still be haunted by it long after she's gone. That's the part that really sticks with you.
And let's be clear about one thing: real communication requires two people. One person alone can't fix anything.
He can try all he wants, but at the end of the day, that's just it.
William Nelson7 William Nelson7 Member
43 messages
joined Oct 2008
#172 ·
David Palmer5...1:0 🙂
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
475 messages
joined Jun 2008
#173 ·
Megan White4 said:And what exactly makes that such a burning question for you?

Because if we're actually going to wrap our heads around this situation, we need to know a few things first:
- how many exams you've sat for over the last year
- which university we're even talking about
- how many exams you have left to go
David Palmer5 David Palmer5 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jan 2024
#174 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:Because if we're actually going to wrap our heads around this situation, we need to know a few things first:
- how many exams you've sat for over the last year
- which university we're even talking about
- how many exams you have left to go

From what I've gathered, Toco1980 tends to ramble on forever about his old life (honestly, the woman must be exhausted just listening to him all day!), but when you ask him anything direct, he gives you nothing but vague, cryptic answers. It’s always some sort of "it's complicated" nonsense.
I think that pattern says a lot.
About HIM, obviously. 😛
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
475 messages
joined Jun 2008
#175 ·
I mean, I agree, but I’m gonna hold my horses until I actually have all the facts before I start throwing things around...
Hopefully we get them soon ☕

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