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David Clark70 David Clark70 Newcomer
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#121 ·
Megan White4 said:It’s easy to talk big when you aren't the one doing the heavy lifting. Yeah, real easy. :asshole:

You think I haven't tried looking for work? Of course I have. It's just that every single time I bring it up, my mother starts spiraling—it's always some variation of, "Decide if you want to be a student or an employee, because if you start working, say goodbye to your degree." Not to mention she won't stop nagging me until I'm completely exhausted. And yes, I am trying to finish this damn degree; it isn't something that just happens overnight. Also, in case I didn't make it clear earlier, I actually started college back in 2003.

My mom wouldn't let me work while I was in school either, but I actually appreciated that she was working herself to the bone just to support me, so I made sure to finish my degree on schedule. She also tried to "advise" me on what I should major in, but I just did my own thing behind her back, and once I was actually enrolled in the program I wanted, I finally sat her down and told her how it was. I mean... if someone is going to shell out the cash to educate me, why shouldn't they pay for something I actually care about and will enjoy? 🤷
That was when I told her exactly how I felt, and honestly... parents aren't perfect, they don't always know everything, and they definitely don't always know what's best for you. She realized I had a point and finally backed off.
My mom worries too much about me and can be a total control freak sometimes, but I don't think it's entirely her fault, just like it's not entirely your mother's fault. It really comes down to your own personality.
If all you're going to do to improve your life is come here and whine, only to go back to your old habits the second you step away from the computer, then fine, have it your way. In that case, I almost hope you end up with a wife who's a complete nightmare—someone you won't be able to stand up to, because she'll know exactly what's best for you since her husband is clearly a bit slow. 🤷
Personally, I can't stand people who constantly complain but refuse to move an inch from where they're standing. It's incredibly irritating because... well, complaining is a lot easier than taking responsibility, isn't it?
One more thing... through some weird twist of fate, I ended up covering everything for my mom for just two weeks. She went on vacation, and suddenly I was stuck carrying the entire workload she's been doing for fifteen years since it's just been us. And you know what? When she got back, I told her that her little trip actually did me a huge favor because I finally saw things from her perspective. It hasn't been easy for her, and I admitted that to her face. I told her I was sorry I hadn't realized how hard she was working and that she could count on me more than ever before. 😳 And wouldn't you know it... she suddenly wasn't nearly as high-strung or losing her cool all the time.
Sometimes a person—even a parent 😁—just needs you to acknowledge the struggle they're going through.
As for that apartment... why don't you try being a bit more proactive and start renting it out? You could make some decent money there... And another thing... I'd bet my left arm that if you actually landed a job, you might deal with a week of nagging and complaining from your mother, but pretty soon you'd be bragging about how her son is both studying and working and helping her out and all that stuff. 😉
Anyway... I wish you the best of luck, provided you actually stand up for yourself. But if you're just going to sit around waiting for someone to bail you out or for some stroke of luck to fall from the sky, then you'll get exactly what you deserve.
So, does that mean I finally get my hands on one of those school smiley face stickers too?😛
A Anonymous Veteran
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#122 ·
I totally feel you, Megan White4. I’m dealing with the exact same thing at my place... my mom constantly nitpicking everything just destroys my self-esteem and leaves me feeling completely drained. But honestly, I’ve come to terms with how old I am and realized I can't keep blaming her for my own struggles. I'm working on building myself up on my own because, let's face it, that's just how the world works today. Nobody is going to swoop in and teach you how to love yourself; you have to do that heavy lifting alone. Maybe once I find that inner peace, the friction with her will finally settle down. My big plan? I'm counting down the days until I graduate college so I can finally move out. 🙂
David Palmer5 David Palmer5 Active Member
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#123 ·
Honestly, my favorite thing is when adults blame their parents for every single one of their own screw-ups. It always follows the same pattern: either they weren't coddled enough, or they were coddled way too much. They’ll claim their mom didn't breastfeed them long enough (or did it for too long), or that someone gave them a little smack on the backside when they were two, or that their parents were either too strict or far too lax. Then it's about being micromanaged, or having zero guidance, or not being loved enough—or conversely, being smothered by "too much" love. They'll complain about being pushed toward a certain college major, or not being encouraged to go to school at all, or being forced into piano lessons instead of something else, or... just, man, give me a break. There are people out there dealing with ACTUAL trauma—people who lived through literal HELL because of parental abuse, alcoholism, drug addiction, or pure neglect. Those are real problems. But this stuff? It’s just...
Megan White4 Megan White4 Active MemberOP
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#124 ·
David Palmer5 said:Honestly, my favorite thing is when adults blame their parents for every single one of their own screw-ups. It always follows the same pattern: either they weren't coddled enough, or they were coddled way too much. They’ll claim their mom didn't breastfeed them long enough (or did it for too long), or that someone gave them a little smack on the backside when they were two, or that their parents were either too strict or far too lax. Then it's about being micromanaged, or having zero guidance, or not being loved enough—or conversely, being smothered by "too much" love. They'll complain about being pushed toward a certain college major, or not being encouraged to go to school at all, or being forced into piano lessons instead of something else, or... just, man, give me a break. There are people out there dealing with ACTUAL trauma—people who lived through literal HELL because of parental abuse, alcoholism, drug addiction, or pure neglect. Those are real problems. But this stuff? It’s just...

So, you think this isn't a legitimate issue? Constantly picking at a healthy psyche over trivialities out of pure boredom doesn't count as abuse?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_parent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive-compulsive_disorder

Do a little reading first. Once you actually have something insightful to contribute, feel free to chime back in.
William Nelson7 William Nelson7 Member
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#125 ·
Look, Megan White4, I know exactly what you're going through. Sometimes, I actually manage to get the upper hand with my stubborn mother. Whenever she starts spiraling, I just sit there, stay calm, and lay out the cold, hard facts until she realizes she's wrong. Usually, that settles her down. It hasn't been easy, though. My father has lived with her for so many years that he’s basically become just like her. Honestly, the only way for either of us to survive this is independence. Focus on finishing your degree as fast as possible, land a job in a different city, and move out. You should still visit her regularly—she's alone, after all—but living under the same roof isn't an option. When you go to see
during your visits, try to keep a positive attitude. People naturally gravitate toward someone who is kind, regardless of how difficult they might be. Expect arguments; they’re inevitable. Just don't take them personally. Keep your eyes on the prize: your own life. As for women, everyone has their flaws, yourself included. The right one will come along eventually. You just have to recognize her when she arrives.
David Palmer5 David Palmer5 Active Member
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#126 ·
Megan White4 said:So, you think this isn't a legitimate issue? Constantly picking at a healthy psyche over trivialities out of pure boredom doesn't count as abuse?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_parent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive-compulsive_disorder

Do a little reading first. Once you actually have something insightful to contribute, feel free to chime back in.

You really think that first link is talking about twenty-eight-year-olds? Seriously, that kind of logic might fly in some parts of Scandinavia, but it doesn't hold much water here.

What’s the point of bringing up OCD? Look, if she actually has a clinical diagnosis—which I’m honestly skeptical about—that’s her own business. But let's look at the facts: she holds down a job, she has a social circle, and she was even married. By any standard, she's perfectly functional in society. Can you say the exact same thing about yourself? And honestly, I find it hard to believe her parents were still footing her bills when she was twenty-eight!

So, what's your big, brilliant takeaway then?
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#127 ·
Megan White4
look, I know I already laid out my take on this once before...

you can keep venting about how much of a nightmare your mom is—and honestly, you’re probably right about everything you’re saying. But listen, you need to focus on building your own life and your own future, not trying to fix hers. And yeah, she's abusive... so what? What are we supposed to do, call the cops? Contact CPS?

how many more finals do you have left? are you actually pulling all-nighters to get through this stuff?
Frank Jackson5 Frank Jackson5 Member
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#128 ·
Donna Sullivan7 said:She thinks she’s some kind of genius, but honestly...
she just can't stop meddling and judging everyone else.
Zero clue what's actually going on in the real world.
Her tongue is sharp, too... way too much attitude.
Everything is such a struggle for her (always playing the victim, refusing help but complaining about it anyway)
She wants to call all the shots, but it just won't happen.
Superficial as hell when you talk to her—it's like she's only listening to herself.
Those Sunday family dinners have become so exhausting I've had to start skipping them more often...

Ugh, I feel this so much. I only got a job after finishing my degree, trying to be super careful with money even when I was just making minimum wage as an intern. Now that I finally have a real career, it doesn't matter how much I earn because everything I spend is basically what she invested in me over the years.
No matter what I say, she twists my words to attack me or acts like I'm just being "grateful." I try, though. My therapist told me to use a mantra: it's not her fault, her upbringing made her this way, she isn't a bad person. It worked for a while, but not anymore.
How am I supposed to believe in myself when she’s spent my whole life telling me I’m incompetent and labeling me with all these negative things? I’m planning to get married and move out next year... should I just endure this for a little longer?

Yeah, and she even messed with my relationship. She only defended my partner because she hates the city he's from (it's a diverse area, but she doesn't care that I'm in love and he's actually everything I ever wanted in an American spouse!) but I didn't let her get to me, and now I'm the happiest person alive!
Megan White4 Megan White4 Active MemberOP
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#129 ·
David Palmer5 said:You really think that first link is talking about twenty-eight-year-olds? Seriously, that kind of logic might fly in some parts of Scandinavia, but it doesn't hold much water here.

What’s the point of bringing up OCD? Look, if she actually has a clinical diagnosis—which I’m honestly skeptical about—that’s her own business. But let's look at the facts: she holds down a job, she has a social circle, and she was even married. By any standard, she's perfectly functional in society. Can you say the exact same thing about yourself? And honestly, I find it hard to believe her parents were still footing her bills when she was twenty-eight!

So, what's your big, brilliant takeaway then?

As if you're some kind of expert on things you clearly don't know damn anything about! 😁 :asshole:
Alex Hall4 Alex Hall4 Active Member
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#130 ·
If people actually measured how many asshole emojis they drop, this thread would probably be dead already. 🙄

But anyway, let's get back to answering Kyle Nelson2.
Kyle Nelson2 said:Megan White4
look, I know I already laid out my take on this once before...

you can keep venting about how much of a nightmare your mom is—and honestly, you’re probably right about everything you’re saying. But listen, you need to focus on building your own life and your own future, not trying to fix hers. And yeah, she's abusive... so what? What are we supposed to do, call the cops? Contact CPS?

how many more finals do you have left? are you actually pulling all-nighters to get through this stuff?
David Palmer5 David Palmer5 Active Member
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#131 ·
Megan White4 said:As if you're some kind of expert on things you clearly don't know damn anything about! 😁 :asshole:

Ah, there it is... the classic move. A little bit of name-calling mixed with some low blows. Is that your substitute for having an actual argument?
It’s pretty funny how you haven't actually answered a single direct question—not just mine, but any of them in this whole thread!

By the way, I am NOT an expert. I never claimed to be one through endless schooling, nor have I ever lived off someone else's dime! And honestly, I wouldn't trade my life for that, believe me. 🤷
hollowtinker18 hollowtinker18 Active Member
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#132 ·
Frank Jackson5 said:Ugh, I feel this so much. I only got a job after finishing my degree, trying to be super careful with money even when I was just making minimum wage as an intern. Now that I finally have a real career, it doesn't matter how much I earn because everything I spend is basically what she invested in me over the years.
No matter what I say, she twists my words to attack me or acts like I'm just being "grateful." I try, though. My therapist told me to use a mantra: it's not her fault, her upbringing made her this way, she isn't a bad person. It worked for a while, but not anymore.
How am I supposed to believe in myself when she’s spent my whole life telling me I’m incompetent and labeling me with all these negative things? I’m planning to get married and move out next year... should I just endure this for a little longer?

Yeah, and she even messed with my relationship. She only defended my partner because she hates the city he's from (it's a diverse area, but she doesn't care that I'm in love and he's actually everything I ever wanted in an American spouse!) but I didn't let her get to me, and now I'm the happiest person alive!

-Look, if you're an adult, self-aware, and know what you want, you don't owe anyone your suffering. Especially not someone trying to pick your boyfriend for you. What a joke. Does she plan on sleeping with him too? Just follow your conscience and do what's best for you. She'll eventually leave you alone, but the man you chose will be by your side for the rest of your life.👍
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
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#133 ·
Seriously, what is wrong with you people?
Well, not everyone. Just some of you.
Stop looking for excuses and start looking for solutions.
Excuses might sound comforting in the moment, but they don't solve anything. Not long-term, anyway.
I had to build my own career and teach myself everything from scratch. My mother didn't even realize when I finally got my degree. All she did was nitpick, belittle me, and criticize everything I touched. According to her, I was never quite good enough at anything.
So, I realized there was only one person left to impress—myself.
If you think life hasn't thrown obstacles in my path, you're dead wrong.
But those hurdles just fueled me. In my field, I pioneered a method that no one else had ever attempted. Even now, hardly anyone does it, despite knowing how effective it is—they actually pay me specifically to bring that expertise to them.
Every single time I hit a wall, I hunt for the solution.
Excuses are just for a momentary breather. I know exactly where my excuses end and where the actual solutions begin.
If I had stayed the person my mother tried to force me to be—and she meant well, God bless her poor soul—I’d be bitter, angry, and completely useless today.
Right now, I’m developing a brand new project that is unprecedented in this industry.
Huuurrraaa!
Way to go, me!
Come on, find some solutions.
Enough with the whining!
copperraven8 copperraven8 Member
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#134 ·
I’ve often wondered if moving out and staying over at my grandma's house would be the right move...
maybe then my mother would finally scale back on all those constant little dramas and interruptions.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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joined Jun 2008
#135 ·
darkhawk30 says:
Seriously, what is wrong with you people???
Well, maybe not everyone, but some of you.
Stop looking for excuses and start looking for solutions.
Excuses might sound good in the moment, but they don't actually work, at least not in the long run.
I basically raised myself and taught myself everything I know, all while my mother didn't even notice when I graduated. Honestly, she just spent her time nagging me, putting me down, and criticizing everything. It felt like I was never quite good enough for her, no matter what I did.
So, I figured the only thing left to do was be good enough—for myself.
If you think life hasn't thrown obstacles my way, you're kidding yourself.
But honestly, those hurdles just gave me more drive. In my field, I started doing things that nobody else had ever attempted, and unfortunately, even now, very few people do them—even though they know my work is solid and they literally pay me to do it for them.
But every single time I hit a wall, I look for a way over it.
Excuses are just for a quick breather, but I always know the difference between an excuse and an actual solution.
If I had stayed the person my mother tried to force me to be (she wasn't being malicious, just... well, you know), I’d be bitter, angry, and totally useless today.
Right now, I'm working on a new project that's unlike anything else in this industry.
Huuurrraaa!
Way to go, me!
Come on, find some solutions.
Enough whining!

😍 🙂 😳

where do girls like this even come from?
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
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#136 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:
darkhawk30 says:
Seriously, what is wrong with you people???
Well, maybe not everyone, but some of you.
Stop looking for excuses and start looking for solutions.
Excuses might sound good in the moment, but they don't actually work, at least not in the long run.
I basically raised myself and taught myself everything I know, all while my mother didn't even notice when I graduated. Honestly, she just spent her time nagging me, putting me down, and criticizing everything. It felt like I was never quite good enough for her, no matter what I did.
So, I figured the only thing left to do was be good enough—for myself.
If you think life hasn't thrown obstacles my way, you're kidding yourself.
But honestly, those hurdles just gave me more drive. In my field, I started doing things that nobody else had ever attempted, and unfortunately, even now, very few people do them—even though they know my work is solid and they literally pay me to do it for them.
But every single time I hit a wall, I look for a way over it.
Excuses are just for a quick breather, but I always know the difference between an excuse and an actual solution.
If I had stayed the person my mother tried to force me to be (she wasn't being malicious, just... well, you know), I’d be bitter, angry, and totally useless today.
Right now, I'm working on a new project that's unlike anything else in this industry.
Huuurrraaa!
Way to go, me!
Come on, find some solutions.
Enough whining!

😍 🙂 😳

where do girls like this even come from?

Right on the border!😍
Megan White4 Megan White4 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2007
#137 ·
William Nelson7 said:Look, Megan White4, I know exactly what you're going through. Sometimes, I actually manage to get the upper hand with my stubborn mother. Whenever she starts spiraling, I just sit there, stay calm, and lay out the cold, hard facts until she realizes she's wrong. Usually, that settles her down. It hasn't been easy, though. My father has lived with her for so many years that he’s basically become just like her. Honestly, the only way for either of us to survive this is independence. Focus on finishing your degree as fast as possible, land a job in a different city, and move out. You should still visit her regularly—she's alone, after all—but living under the same roof isn't an option. When you go to see
during your visits, try to keep a positive attitude. People naturally gravitate toward someone who is kind, regardless of how difficult they might be. Expect arguments; they’re inevitable. Just don't take them personally. Keep your eyes on the prize: your own life. As for women, everyone has their flaws, yourself included. The right one will come along eventually. You just have to recognize her when she arrives.

I think I’m going to start ignoring her. My patience has officially run dry, and frankly, she acts like the entire world revolves around her—as if she’s somehow inherited all the wisdom in the universe.

A few days ago, I reached my breaking point. Between the constant nitpicking and the sheer hysteria over driving just a few extra blocks, I seriously considered either abandoning her on the side of the road or just selling the car entirely. The situation was simple: I missed a parking spot, so I had to drive a few hundred yards to find a roundabout to turn around—since pulling a U-turn on a two-way street isn't an option. Suddenly, she’s spiraling. "Where are you going? Are you insane? We’re going to be late!" we ended up having to wait anyway, which made the whole outburst even more pointless. Then, on another occasion, I suggested she hurry up with her shopping so the car wouldn't bake in the sun. Naturally, she took offense, accusing me of "rushing her." It took her thirty minutes just to pick out a few cans of cat food, only for her to spend the entire drive complaining about how hot it was in the car. 🙄

William Nelson7 said:Look, Megan White4, I know exactly what you're going through. Sometimes, I actually manage to get the upper hand with my stubborn mother. Whenever she starts spiraling, I just sit there, stay calm, and lay out the cold, hard facts until she realizes she's wrong. Usually, that settles her down. It hasn't been easy, though. My father has lived with her for so many years that he’s basically become just like her. Honestly, the only way for either of us to survive this is independence. Focus on finishing your degree as fast as possible, land a job in a different city, and move out. You should still visit her regularly—she's alone, after all—but living under the same roof isn't an option. When you go to see
during your visits, try to keep a positive attitude. People naturally gravitate toward someone who is kind, regardless of how difficult they might be. Expect arguments; they’re inevitable. Just don't take them personally. Keep your eyes on the prize: your own life. As for women, everyone has their flaws, yourself included. The right one will come along eventually. You just have to recognize her when she arrives.

It was the same story at my house. Only, my late father actually knew how to settle things with her, whereas I was just dismissed as an immature kid who didn't know anything—constantly told, "What could you possibly have to say to me?" and things of that nature.

Since it’s just the two of us at home right now, she’s focused entirely on me. Apparently, her new full-time job is hunting for things to nitpick, acting as if she’s somehow responsible for my every move. Things that were perfectly fine yesterday are suddenly major issues today—usually some trivial nonsense, like leaving the toothpaste cap off. But when something actually matters? She either loses her patience or comes up with some transparent excuse to avoid it.

William Nelson7 said:Look, Megan White4, I know exactly what you're going through. Sometimes, I actually manage to get the upper hand with my stubborn mother. Whenever she starts spiraling, I just sit there, stay calm, and lay out the cold, hard facts until she realizes she's wrong. Usually, that settles her down. It hasn't been easy, though. My father has lived with her for so many years that he’s basically become just like her. Honestly, the only way for either of us to survive this is independence. Focus on finishing your degree as fast as possible, land a job in a different city, and move out. You should still visit her regularly—she's alone, after all—but living under the same roof isn't an option. When you go to see
during your visits, try to keep a positive attitude. People naturally gravitate toward someone who is kind, regardless of how difficult they might be. Expect arguments; they’re inevitable. Just don't take them personally. Keep your eyes on the prize: your own life. As for women, everyone has their flaws, yourself included. The right one will come along eventually. You just have to recognize her when she arrives.

You have no idea how much I’m looking forward to moving out of her place. All that stands between me and my own space is finishing my exams and finally getting that degree. I’m estimating it'll take about a year—maybe a little longer—to wrap everything up.

William Nelson7 said:Look, Megan White4, I know exactly what you're going through. Sometimes, I actually manage to get the upper hand with my stubborn mother. Whenever she starts spiraling, I just sit there, stay calm, and lay out the cold, hard facts until she realizes she's wrong. Usually, that settles her down. It hasn't been easy, though. My father has lived with her for so many years that he’s basically become just like her. Honestly, the only way for either of us to survive this is independence. Focus on finishing your degree as fast as possible, land a job in a different city, and move out. You should still visit her regularly—she's alone, after all—but living under the same roof isn't an option. When you go to see
during your visits, try to keep a positive attitude. People naturally gravitate toward someone who is kind, regardless of how difficult they might be. Expect arguments; they’re inevitable. Just don't take them personally. Keep your eyes on the prize: your own life. As for women, everyone has their flaws, yourself included. The right one will come along eventually. You just have to recognize her when she arrives.

And if the right one never comes, or if none of them fit, so be it. I'd much rather spend the rest of my life alone than settle for some perpetually dissatisfied, "know-it-all" nag just for the sake of having someone around.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
475 messages
joined Jun 2008
#138 ·
Who's talking? You're still going on about her.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
475 messages
joined Jun 2008
#139 ·
darkhawk30 said:Right on the border!😍

What forest are we even talking about? 😳
William Nelson7 William Nelson7 Member
43 messages
joined Oct 2008
#140 ·
Megan White4, you’ve got a solid plan here, but I have one suggestion: before you decide to go completely radio silent, try actually talking to her. Lay everything out on the table—be blunt about what’s bothering you. Pick a quiet moment when things are actually going well between you. It might just shake some sense into her, which would save you from having to resort to the silent treatment. Of course, if she keeps acting the same way, you’ll have to pull the trigger on your plan if you want to keep your sanity intact...

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