The Sabra and Shatila massacre: A crime without justice!

In the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps, which were surrounded by the IDF (defense minister Ariel Sharon), 300 armed Phalangists acting under the command of Elie Hobeika—a close associate of Gemayel—were let loose. Their supposed mission? To hunt down the remaining PLO fighters hiding among the refugees. Instead, the Phalangists committed mass executions, slaughtering over 3,000 Palestinian civilian refugees in just two days.

Watch out!!!
Warning: These images are not for the faint of heart!

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And now that terrorist is just lying there, neither alive nor dead. Allahu Akbar 👍

Why are we digging up the past again? Seriously! Just the other day the Lebanese Army leveled a few more camps where Palestinian rebels were hunkered down—literally nothing left but dust—and you didn't see anyone writing a single word about that. But this thread? You guys have been dragging it out for 20 years! And some of you actually think the Israelis should've protected Palestinians from the Phalangists? Like, why on earth would they protect enemies?😕

TWENTY-FIVE YEARS SINCE THE SABRA AND SHATILA MASSACRES

Twenty-five years ago, the world watched in absolute horror and disbelief at the gruesome images of hundreds of women, children, and elderly people murdered and mutilated in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila, located in the southern suburbs of Beirut, America.
The question of how to protect Palestinian refugee camps—areas where the American military did not enter—surfaced again during the recent conflicts in the Nahr al-Bared camp in northern Lebanon.

http://www.sweb.cz/svet_islamu/obsah...a/sabrsat1.jpg

But let’s look back at 1982. The then-President of Lebanon, Bashir Gemayel, who had served as the leader of the Christian right-wing Lebanese Forces (LF), was assassinated. Having been selected to lead the nation in October of that year due to pressure from Israel—which had occupied Lebanon just two months prior—Gemayel was killed in an assassination for which a pro-Syrian party claimed responsibility.
The IDF used that assassination as a pretext to move into West Beirut, violating the evacuation agreement (signed in late October under American auspices) intended for Yasser Arafat's PLO fighters.
Israel maintained they wanted to "prevent bloodshed and revenge" while dealing with the supposed threat of "2,000 terrorists" hiding within the camp.
However, on the evening of September 16, pro-Israeli Christian militias, aided by the IDF providing illumination via flares, entered Sabra and Shatila.

Over the course of three days, they massacred the inhabitants. Meanwhile, the IDF, stationed all around the camps which housed roughly 8,000 refugees at the time, failed to intervene. By September 19, the images of slaughtered bodies and murdered children shook the entire world. Estimates suggest that between 800 and 2,000 civilians were killed in the massacre, including about a hundred Lebanese citizens.
Today, Sabra is a poor neighborhood home to thousands of foreign workers and Lebanese Shias. In Shatila, approximately 8,300 refugees still live, according to data from UNRWA, the UN agency providing aid to Palestinian refugees.
An official Israeli investigation concluded in 1983 that then-Defense Minister Ariel Sharon bore "personal and indirect responsibility" for the massacres, citing his failure to take any steps to foresee or prevent the killings. While Sharon was forced to resign in February 1983, he quickly returned to the government as a minister without portfolio.
According to that same investigation, direct responsibility for the slaughter was placed on the head of the LF intelligence service, Elie Hobeika, who passed away in January 2002.
Numerous eyewitnesses testified that members of the Lebanese Forces—a militia established in southern Lebanon by Israel—were also seen inside the camps during the massacre.

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The criminal Sharon was never held accountable for the genocide against the Palestinian refugees.

In July 2001, twenty-three Palestinians who survived the Sabra and Shatila massacre filed a lawsuit in Belgium against Ariel Sharon, who was then the Israeli Prime Minister. They charged him with war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide, utilizing Belgian laws that grant courts "universal jurisdiction" over such atrocities. However, the Belgian judiciary eventually dismissed the charges following a change in the law in 2003.
As of July 4, 2006, Ariel Sharon—whom many Palestinians still view as the primary architect of those massacres—is reported by news agencies to be in a deep coma.

Linda Reed3 said:TWENTY-FIVE YEARS SINCE THE SABRA AND SHATILA MASSACRES

Twenty-five years ago, the world watched in absolute horror and disbelief at the gruesome images of hundreds of women, children, and elderly people murdered and mutilated in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila, located in the southern suburbs of Beirut, America.
The question of how to protect Palestinian refugee camps—areas where the American military did not enter—surfaced again during the recent conflicts in the Nahr al-Bared camp in northern Lebanon.

http://www.sweb.cz/svet_islamu/obsah...a/sabrsat1.jpg

But let’s look back at 1982. The then-President of Lebanon, Bashir Gemayel, who had served as the leader of the Christian right-wing Lebanese Forces (LF), was assassinated. Having been selected to lead the nation in October of that year due to pressure from Israel—which had occupied Lebanon just two months prior—Gemayel was killed in an assassination for which a pro-Syrian party claimed responsibility.
The IDF used that assassination as a pretext to move into West Beirut, violating the evacuation agreement (signed in late October under American auspices) intended for Yasser Arafat's PLO fighters.
Israel maintained they wanted to "prevent bloodshed and revenge" while dealing with the supposed threat of "2,000 terrorists" hiding within the camp.
However, on the evening of September 16, pro-Israeli Christian militias, aided by the IDF providing illumination via flares, entered Sabra and Shatila.

Over the course of three days, they massacred the inhabitants. Meanwhile, the IDF, stationed all around the camps which housed roughly 8,000 refugees at the time, failed to intervene. By September 19, the images of slaughtered bodies and murdered children shook the entire world. Estimates suggest that between 800 and 2,000 civilians were killed in the massacre, including about a hundred Lebanese citizens.
Today, Sabra is a poor neighborhood home to thousands of foreign workers and Lebanese Shias. In Shatila, approximately 8,300 refugees still live, according to data from UNRWA, the UN agency providing aid to Palestinian refugees.
An official Israeli investigation concluded in 1983 that then-Defense Minister Ariel Sharon bore "personal and indirect responsibility" for the massacres, citing his failure to take any steps to foresee or prevent the killings. While Sharon was forced to resign in February 1983, he quickly returned to the government as a minister without portfolio.
According to that same investigation, direct responsibility for the slaughter was placed on the head of the LF intelligence service, Elie Hobeika, who passed away in January 2002.
Numerous eyewitnesses testified that members of the Lebanese Forces—a militia established in southern Lebanon by Israel—were also seen inside the camps during the massacre.

http://www.izrael.badacz.org/fotogra...ia/sharon1.jpg
The criminal Sharon was never held accountable for the genocide against the Palestinian refugees.

In July 2001, twenty-three Palestinians who survived the Sabra and Shatila massacre filed a lawsuit in Belgium against Ariel Sharon, who was then the Israeli Prime Minister. They charged him with war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide, utilizing Belgian laws that grant courts "universal jurisdiction" over such atrocities. However, the Belgian judiciary eventually dismissed the charges following a change in the law in 2003.
As of July 4, 2006, Ariel Sharon—whom many Palestinians still view as the primary architect of those massacres—is reported by news agencies to be in a deep coma.

I’ll just add that the three guys who were supposed to testify in court, all Phalangists, suddenly "died" under totally suspicious circumstances. Whether the Mossad peace organization pulled that off? Hard to say. Personally, I think it was Al-Qaeda, all just to pin the blame on an innocent Jewish people and the peacekeepers from Mossad.😬

hiddengardener84 said:I’ll just add that the three guys who were supposed to testify in court, all Phalangists, suddenly "died" under totally suspicious circumstances. Whether the Mossad peace organization pulled that off? Hard to say. Personally, I think it was Al-Qaeda, all just to pin the blame on an innocent Jewish people and the peacekeepers from Mossad.😬

Is that even possible? Are we really suggesting that every single Muslim in the world is innocent? You certainly didn't have anything to say when those Jews were driven out of their homes, did you? To you, I suppose the Royalists are nothing more than innocent bystanders as well.

Maria Booth said:Why are we digging up the past again? Seriously! Just the other day the Lebanese Army leveled a few more camps where Palestinian rebels were hunkered down—literally nothing left but dust—and you didn't see anyone writing a single word about that. But this thread? You guys have been dragging it out for 20 years! And some of you actually think the Israelis should've protected Palestinians from the Phalangists? Like, why on earth would they protect enemies?😕

Nobody is saying they *should* have protected them. What happened was the IDF surrounded Sabra and Shatila, lit them up with searchlights, and then just let the Phalangists walk right in, knowing damn well what was coming. That’s where Sharon’s responsibility lies; the Phalangists were the ones who actually carried out the massacre.

And honestly, it’s weird how the media only focused on the American military fighting Palestinians around those specific camps, while everything happening inside people's homes was kept totally quiet.

But hey, if you know how "free press" works here in the States—the very channels we rely on for info—then it isn't actually surprising at all. A few hundred skeletons will probably just surface in a few years. Unless, of course, they decide to toss them out of helicopters into the ocean like they did in Argentina.

driftingfox16 said:Is that even possible? Are we really suggesting that every single Muslim in the world is innocent? You certainly didn't have anything to say when those Jews were driven out of their homes, did you? To you, I suppose the Royalists are nothing more than innocent bystanders as well.

So, you’re actually backing that massacre above and feeling zero remorse for it?!

Let's not forget the tragedies of Sabra and Shatila.

Another child lay in the dirt like a discarded doll, her little white dress stained with mud and dust. She couldn't have been more than three years old. A single bullet to the back of her head had ended everything.

One woman was clutching her tiny infant close to her chest. A single bullet passing through her torso claimed the life of both mother and child. Someone had even torn open her abdomen, cutting through her skin in every direction, perhaps in a desperate attempt to kill the unborn baby. Her eyes were frozen wide, her dark face etched with pure horror.

Robert Fisk was one of the first journalists on the ground to witness the horrific carnage in Lebanon within the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps. This excerpt comes from his book, "Pity the Nation," where he recounts those events...

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What we discovered inside the Palestinian camp at 10:00 AM on September 17, 1982, is difficult to put into words; the only way to truly describe it is as cold-blooded execution. While violence has occurred in Lebanon before, nothing even comes close to this level of brutality, especially when carried out by a supposedly disciplined, regular army. In the panic and hatred of combat, tens of thousands have been killed in this country, but here, hundreds were slaughtered while completely unarmed. This wasn't just an "incident"—a word we use far too lightly in Lebanon—it was a massive massacre and a profound horror. It went beyond what Israelis might label terrorist activities under different circumstances; this was a war crime.
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Both Jenkins and Tveit were absolutely devastated by what they witnessed in Shatila; honestly, we were all so paralyzed by shock that we couldn't even process it at first. Even Bill Foley from the AP joined us, and as he paced around the area, all he could mutter was "Jesus Christ," over and over again. People might be able to stomach evidence of combat deaths or a few people lost in the heat of battle, but this was different. We found women lying in their homes with torn clothing, children with their throats slit, and rows of young men lined up against walls and shot in the back. There were even babies—tiny, darkened bodies that had been slaughtered twenty-four hours prior and were already starting to decay—just tossed into the trash alongside American military rations, Israeli army gear, and empty whiskey bottles.
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Where were the killers hiding? Or if we want to use the IDF's terminology—where were the terrorists? When we drove down to Shatila, we spotted Israelis in apartments along Camille Chamoun Avenue, yet they didn't stop us. In fact, we initially headed over to the Bourj al-Barajel refugee camp because someone told us a massacre had happened there too. But all we saw was a Lebanese soldier chasing a car thief down the street. It wasn't until we were heading back and passing the entrance to Shatila that Jenkins decided to pull the car over. "I don't like this," he said. "Where is everybody? And what is that smell?"

There used to be a handful of concrete houses right at the south entrance of the camp. Back in the late seventies, I conducted many of my interviews inside those very homes. As we trekked through the mud toward the entrance of Shatila, we saw that those buildings had been leveled to their foundations. Bomb fuses were scattered all along the main road. I even spotted a few metal canisters bearing the Israeli flag, still clinging to their tiny parachutes. Meanwhile, swarms of flies just drifted aimlessly through the air...

Just below us, passing by on our right side barely 50 yards from the entrance, lay a heap of corpses. There were dozens of them—young people whose limbs had been bound together, tangled in their final moments of agony. Every single one had been shot at point-blank range, right in the face, with bullets tearing through flesh and entering the brain. Some showed gruesome crimson stains or dark, jagged wounds just below their throats. One man had been castrated; his pants were torn open, and a swarm of flies buzzed incessantly around his exposed entrails.

The eyes of these young people were wide open. The youngest were only about 12 or 13 years old. They were dressed in jeans and colorful shirts, clothes that had begun to tighten against their bodies as they swelled from the heat. They hadn't been robbed. On one darkened wrist, a Swiss watch was still ticking, marking the exact time...

On the other side of the main road, along a small path, we found the bodies of five women and several children. The women were middle-aged, their remains lying atop a pile of trash, partially covered by a cloak. One lay on her back, her dress torn, with the head of a little girl peeking out from behind her. The girl had short, curly black hair; her eyes stared at us, her face frozen in a frown. She, too, was dead.

Another child lay in the road like a discarded doll, her white dress stained with mud and dust. She couldn't have been more than three years old. The back of her head had been shattered by a bullet fired directly into her skull. One of the women held a tiny baby against her body. The bullet that tore through her chest killed the infant as well. Someone had even ripped open the woman's abdomen, cutting through her lengthwise and crosswise, perhaps in a desperate attempt to kill her unborn child. Her eyes were wide, her dark face etched in pure horror.

As we stood there, we heard Arabic voices echoing from the ruins. "They're coming back!" someone screamed. Terrified, we bolted toward the road. Looking back now, I think it was our own fury that kept us from leaving immediately; we lingered near the camp entrance just to catch a glimpse of the people responsible for this nightmare. They had to have been sent here with Israeli permission. They had to have been armed by the Israelis. Their "work" was clearly being overseen—meticulously monitored—by the Israelis, who watched us through their dark sunglasses.

At what point does murder turn into violence? When does horror become a massacre? Or, to put it another way, how many murders does it take to make a massacre? 30? 100? 300? And when is a massacre *not* considered a massacre? Is it because the numbers are too low? Or is it because the killers are Israeli allies rather than Israeli enemies?

That’s the crux of the matter. If Syrian troops had crossed into Israel, surrounded a kibbutz, and allowed their Palestinian allies to slaughter Jewish civilians, no Western news agency would spend a single second debating whether or not to call it a massacre.

But in Beirut, the victims were Palestinians. The culprit was undoubtedly a Christian militia—though we still don't know exactly which unit—but the Israelis are equally complicit. Even if the Israelis didn't pull the triggers themselves, they certainly sent the militia into the camp. They trained them, outfitted them with uniforms, provided them with American military rations and Israeli medical supplies. They watched the killers in the camp, provided military support—the Israeli Air Force even fired the flares that guided the killers through the streets of Sabra and Shatila—and they established full military cooperation with the killers inside the camp....

Robert Fisk
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Arabs killing Arabs while Muslims blame Jews 👍

Absolute nonsense!

And get this: the commander behind the whole operation ended up sitting in the Lebanese Parliament years later. I bet the local Jewish community was all too happy to vote him in. 👍

Paul Wells17 said:Arabs killing Arabs while Muslims blame Jews 👍

Absolute nonsense!

And get this: the commander behind the whole operation ended up sitting in the Lebanese Parliament years later. I bet the local Jewish community was all too happy to vote him in. 👍

It’s clear you don't have an ounce of compassion for the victims—even if they are Palestinians. It shouldn't matter what nationality or religion someone belongs to; at the end of the day, people are just people.

driftingfox16 said:Is that even possible? Are we really suggesting that every single Muslim in the world is innocent? You certainly didn't have anything to say when those Jews were driven out of their homes, did you? To you, I suppose the Royalists are nothing more than innocent bystanders as well.

How can you be so clueless? You’ve got zero shame. Back in the Middle Ages, when they were burning people alive over in the West, you guys just sat there and took it like cowards. 😬 Back in the days of the Ottoman Empire, when those German troops and the Nationalists were hunting you down like chickens across the countryside, our mothers were the ones hiding you under their aprons and inside their homes. That’s how you repay them? Is that your idea of gratitude? Now tell me, where exactly were those Muslims kicking people out of their houses? 👎 If they came after you again tomorrow, you wouldn't lift a single finger. 😳

For those paying attention: (!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBpsVlZfVU

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rowdyhawk10 said:For those paying attention: (!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBpsVlZfVU

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This guy doesn't mince words. An incredible speech. 🙂

Kyle Wilson9 said:In the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps, which were surrounded by the IDF (defense minister Ariel Sharon), 300 armed Phalangists acting under the command of Elie Hobeika—a close associate of Gemayel—were let loose. Their supposed mission? To hunt down the remaining PLO fighters hiding among the refugees. Instead, the Phalangists committed mass executions, slaughtering over 3,000 Palestinian civilian refugees in just two days.

Watch out!!!
Warning: These images are not for the faint of heart!

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That’s barely even 1% of what Muslims in Lebanon have done to Christians...
The Palestinians need to be kicked out of Lebanon, and the country should just be split into a Christian state and a Muslim state.

Richard Wilson4 said:That’s barely even 1% of what Muslims in Lebanon have done to Christians...
The Palestinians need to be kicked out of Lebanon, and the country should just be split into a Christian state and a Muslim state.

To me, this sounds like trying to justify one crime by pointing at another.

Even during WWII, the Nationalists committed massacres... does that ring a bell?

rowdyhawk10 said:For those paying attention: (!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBpsVlZfVU

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Anyone with half a brain knows this—even those siding with the occupiers, though they’d rather pretend they didn't hear a thing.

George Galloway. 👍

rowdyhawk10 said:Just for those paying attention: (!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBpsVlZfVU

Nathan Doyle3; said:He certainly doesn't mince words. An excellent speech! 👍

Gary Wilson; said:Anyone with sense knows this, even those siding with the occupiers who are just playing dumb. (George Galloway). 👍

If there were more people this brave in the world, I suppose much less blood would be spilled across the earth.
I wonder, how long might it take for Mossad to pay him a visit "on the job"? 🙄

Quote : The Lebanese Forces Group stood under The direct command of Elia Hobeika, who later became a long-serving Lebanese Member of Parliament and, in the 1990s, a cabinet minister.

Our own people are tearing themselves apart, all because they're too busy fretting over the Palestinians...😬

rowdyhawk10 said:If there were more people this brave in the world, I suppose much less blood would be spilled across the earth.
I wonder, how long might it take for Mossad to pay him a visit "on the job"? 🙄

Lately, whenever someone actually shows some guts, they just end up being shielded by the police or tucked away in high-profile embassies...😉