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Elizabeth Ruiz65 said:Quote : LNP20
Jessica Scott5 Asks:
That was just a typo—I started typing "wake" and then decided to finish the thought. Anyway. 😳 😳
Well, I understood all of that perfectly fine; I just took the opportunity to...
I’m going to use that icon =) shamelessly.

Quote : LNP20
I felt the same way about it. You’ve got that heavy philosophical undertone mixed with lucid dreaming, and that whole blurring of the lines between what’s real and what isn't. By the end, you’re left questioning everything—is any of this actually happening, or is it all just a projection of the mind? 😉
Ever since I finished watching, my head has been spinning with all these new ideas. It’s like... what if?
Why is it that our dreams—those moments where everything feels like it stretches on for hours in a single blink—seem to defy the actual passage of time?
I won't even say it's been days; if we’re actually measuring this by our standard earthly time, it’s been...
They play out in just a few seconds, sometimes stretching into a couple of minutes, yet they never truly offer anything substantial.
Is it possible that our entire lifespan actually spans seventy, eighty, or even ninety plus years?
Maybe just a few seconds or minutes of sleep is all it takes to make us feel like outsiders looking in.
Is the entire framework flawed? What we consider death would only represent...
Waking up from a dream—is it just a sudden spike in adrenaline, a random glitch in the system, or maybe just a conscious choice?
Our dreams always end up pulling us right back into this reality. I even had a dream the other day that...
I came across this somewhat oddly shaped pool sitting right in front of me.
So, I had this dream where some voice just casually informed me that I was swimming in a pool of dreams. Totally spontaneous.
I dove headfirst into it, only to find myself suddenly paralyzed.
Sinking toward the bottom, suffocating, haunted by the memory of my own attempt.
Surging out of physical lethargy just to find some kind of footing. That's when...
That voice started up again, telling me I should just let go, since apparently that's what's necessary.
Surrender yourself to the current if you ever want to reach the shore. It was at that exact moment that I felt completely overwhelmed.
There was this strange sense of peace, a certain stillness, even as I felt myself slowly drowning in that water.
I remember that pitch-black void and the suddenness of waking up the next moment—just as calm and composed as everything else.

Sigmund Freud would probably argue that a dream pool is just a manifestation of some unconscious desire.
My very being seems to drift toward this metaphorical longing—a desire to sink into something that isn't exactly overwhelming, yet still feels like enough.
Is it about those damp, dark depths, or just some primal urge to crawl back into the womb? 🤣

At the end of the day, I can't help but feel like we don't give our dreams nearly enough credit.
They really ought to take them into account, rather than just taking them for granted without even knowing they exist.
We're almost at the point where we can just say "hello." =)

Quote : LNP20
I’ll be honest, I wasn't exactly sold on the animation at first. It felt like a hurdle. But by the time the credits rolled, it hit me that the movie wouldn't have functioned half as well if it hadn't been done this way. That specific medium really amplifies that sense of losing your grip on reality, doesn't it? It just works.
It feels like he’s just leaning into that sensation you mentioned—those slippery, shifting identities.
Shape-shifting, a complete lack of empirical grounding, and pure extravagance.
Color and experience—there's just this total lack of fixed meaning at any level. And yet, what?
The most fascinating part is how an individual interacts with their surroundings while in a state
of wakefulness, which explains why we aren't constantly shocked by the reality of things.

So, if we judge by the mechanics of dreaming, does that mean a significant portion
of human—and perhaps other species'—existence has been somewhat postmodern since ancient times? =)

👋 👋 👋 and people claim that isn't possible 🙄
I hope you haven't gotten yourself tangled up in any power lines or tree branches... 🙂

People certainly love to talk. It just occurred to me how people in the
Middle Ages used to claim that at the edges of the "world" maps back then
which were grotesque enough as it is, there actually lived monopeds
(people who walked on a single leg) and others with faces located on their stomachs 😁

Anyway, here is an interesting page that offers a more detailed look into the
phenomenon of lucid dreaming:

http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html#LIQ

You should also Google the name "Steven LaBerge," a psychophysiologist and
the founder of the Lucidity Institute and one of the leading figures in this
field of research. He teaches techniques on how to achieve this, and according to him,
he personally managed to have four lucid dreams in a single night.
Here is an interview with him that I found particularly interesting:

http://www.futurehi.net/docs/Laberge_WakingDreamer.html

Honestly, it is all quite alright.. 😘 😁

Elizabeth Ruiz65 said:Quote : LNP20
Jessica Scott5 Asks:
That was just a typo—I started typing "wake" and then decided to finish the thought. Anyway. 😳 😳
Well, I understood all of that perfectly fine; I just took the opportunity to...
I’m going to use that icon =) shamelessly.

Quote : LNP20
I felt the same way about it. You’ve got that heavy philosophical undertone mixed with lucid dreaming, and that whole blurring of the lines between what’s real and what isn't. By the end, you’re left questioning everything—is any of this actually happening, or is it all just a projection of the mind? 😉
Ever since I finished watching, my head has been spinning with all these new ideas. It’s like... what if?
Why is it that our dreams—those moments where everything feels like it stretches on for hours in a single blink—seem to defy the actual passage of time?
I won't even say it's been days; if we’re actually measuring this by our standard earthly time, it’s been...
They play out in just a few seconds, sometimes stretching into a couple of minutes, yet they never truly offer anything substantial.
Is it possible that our entire lifespan actually spans seventy, eighty, or even ninety plus years?
Maybe just a few seconds or minutes of sleep is all it takes to make us feel like outsiders looking in.
Is the entire framework flawed? What we consider death would only represent...
Waking up from a dream—is it just a sudden spike in adrenaline, a random glitch in the system, or maybe just a conscious choice?
Our dreams always end up pulling us right back into this reality. I even had a dream the other day that...
I came across this somewhat oddly shaped pool sitting right in front of me.
So, I had this dream where some voice just casually informed me that I was swimming in a pool of dreams. Totally spontaneous.
I dove headfirst into it, only to find myself suddenly paralyzed.
Sinking toward the bottom, suffocating, haunted by the memory of my own attempt.
Surging out of physical lethargy just to find some kind of footing. That's when...
That voice started up again, telling me I should just let go, since apparently that's what's necessary.
Surrender yourself to the current if you ever want to reach the shore. It was at that exact moment that I felt completely overwhelmed.
There was this strange sense of peace, a certain stillness, even as I felt myself slowly drowning in that water.
I remember that pitch-black void and the suddenness of waking up the next moment—just as calm and composed as everything else.

Sigmund Freud would probably argue that a dream pool is just a manifestation of some unconscious desire.
My very being seems to drift toward this metaphorical longing—a desire to sink into something that isn't exactly overwhelming, yet still feels like enough.
Is it about those damp, dark depths, or just some primal urge to crawl back into the womb? 🤣

At the end of the day, I can't help but feel like we don't give our dreams nearly enough credit.
They really ought to take them into account, rather than just taking them for granted without even knowing they exist.
We're almost at the point where we can just say "hello." =)

Quote : LNP20
I’ll be honest, I wasn't exactly sold on the animation at first. It felt like a hurdle. But by the time the credits rolled, it hit me that the movie wouldn't have functioned half as well if it hadn't been done this way. That specific medium really amplifies that sense of losing your grip on reality, doesn't it? It just works.
It feels like he’s just leaning into that sensation you mentioned—those slippery, shifting identities.
Shape-shifting, a complete lack of empirical grounding, and pure extravagance.
Color and experience—there's just this total lack of fixed meaning at any level. And yet, what?
The most fascinating part is how an individual interacts with their surroundings while in a state
of wakefulness, which explains why we aren't constantly shocked by the reality of things.

So, if we judge by the mechanics of dreaming, does that mean a significant portion
of human—and perhaps other species'—existence has been somewhat postmodern since ancient times? =)

👋 👋 👋 and people claim that isn't possible 🙄
I hope you haven't gotten yourself tangled up in any power lines or tree branches... 🙂

People certainly love to talk. It just occurred to me how people in the
Middle Ages used to claim that at the edges of the "world" maps back then
which were grotesque enough as it is, there actually lived monopeds
(people who walked on a single leg) and others with faces located on their stomachs 😁

Anyway, here is an interesting page that offers a more detailed look into the
phenomenon of lucid dreaming:

http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html#LIQ

You should also Google the name "Steven LaBerge," a psychophysiologist and
the founder of the Lucidity Institute and one of the leading figures in this
field of research. He teaches techniques on how to achieve this, and according to him,
he personally managed to have four lucid dreams in a single night.
Here is an interview with him that I found particularly interesting:

http://www.futurehi.net/docs/Laberge_WakingDreamer.html

Do you think we will wake up after death?
However, if we are capable of lucid dreaming and controlling our dreams, why wouldn't that be possible right now? If we are dreaming... once we realize we are dreaming, we can manipulate life or the dream however we please...
There have been a few times in my life where I realized I was dreaming while still asleep... and I always ended up waking up shortly thereafter. That moment of "awareness" seems to break the dream.

Elizabeth Ruiz65 said:Quote : LNP20
Jessica Scott5 Asks:
That was just a typo—I started typing "wake" and then decided to finish the thought. Anyway. 😳 😳
Well, I understood all of that perfectly fine; I just took the opportunity to...
I’m going to use that icon =) shamelessly.

Quote : LNP20
I felt the same way about it. You’ve got that heavy philosophical undertone mixed with lucid dreaming, and that whole blurring of the lines between what’s real and what isn't. By the end, you’re left questioning everything—is any of this actually happening, or is it all just a projection of the mind? 😉
Ever since I finished watching, my head has been spinning with all these new ideas. It’s like... what if?
Why is it that our dreams—those moments where everything feels like it stretches on for hours in a single blink—seem to defy the actual passage of time?
I won't even say it's been days; if we’re actually measuring this by our standard earthly time, it’s been...
They play out in just a few seconds, sometimes stretching into a couple of minutes, yet they never truly offer anything substantial.
Is it possible that our entire lifespan actually spans seventy, eighty, or even ninety plus years?
Maybe just a few seconds or minutes of sleep is all it takes to make us feel like outsiders looking in.
Is the entire framework flawed? What we consider death would only represent...
Waking up from a dream—is it just a sudden spike in adrenaline, a random glitch in the system, or maybe just a conscious choice?
Our dreams always end up pulling us right back into this reality. I even had a dream the other day that...
I came across this somewhat oddly shaped pool sitting right in front of me.
So, I had this dream where some voice just casually informed me that I was swimming in a pool of dreams. Totally spontaneous.
I dove headfirst into it, only to find myself suddenly paralyzed.
Sinking toward the bottom, suffocating, haunted by the memory of my own attempt.
Surging out of physical lethargy just to find some kind of footing. That's when...
That voice started up again, telling me I should just let go, since apparently that's what's necessary.
Surrender yourself to the current if you ever want to reach the shore. It was at that exact moment that I felt completely overwhelmed.
There was this strange sense of peace, a certain stillness, even as I felt myself slowly drowning in that water.
I remember that pitch-black void and the suddenness of waking up the next moment—just as calm and composed as everything else.

Sigmund Freud would probably argue that a dream pool is just a manifestation of some unconscious desire.
My very being seems to drift toward this metaphorical longing—a desire to sink into something that isn't exactly overwhelming, yet still feels like enough.
Is it about those damp, dark depths, or just some primal urge to crawl back into the womb? 🤣

At the end of the day, I can't help but feel like we don't give our dreams nearly enough credit.
They really ought to take them into account, rather than just taking them for granted without even knowing they exist.
We're almost at the point where we can just say "hello." =)

Quote : LNP20
I’ll be honest, I wasn't exactly sold on the animation at first. It felt like a hurdle. But by the time the credits rolled, it hit me that the movie wouldn't have functioned half as well if it hadn't been done this way. That specific medium really amplifies that sense of losing your grip on reality, doesn't it? It just works.
It feels like he’s just leaning into that sensation you mentioned—those slippery, shifting identities.
Shape-shifting, a complete lack of empirical grounding, and pure extravagance.
Color and experience—there's just this total lack of fixed meaning at any level. And yet, what?
The most fascinating part is how an individual interacts with their surroundings while in a state
of wakefulness, which explains why we aren't constantly shocked by the reality of things.

So, if we judge by the mechanics of dreaming, does that mean a significant portion
of human—and perhaps other species'—existence has been somewhat postmodern since ancient times? =)

👋 👋 👋 and people claim that isn't possible 🙄
I hope you haven't gotten yourself tangled up in any power lines or tree branches... 🙂

People certainly love to talk. It just occurred to me how people in the
Middle Ages used to claim that at the edges of the "world" maps back then
which were grotesque enough as it is, there actually lived monopeds
(people who walked on a single leg) and others with faces located on their stomachs 😁

Anyway, here is an interesting page that offers a more detailed look into the
phenomenon of lucid dreaming:

http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html#LIQ

You should also Google the name "Steven LaBerge," a psychophysiologist and
the founder of the Lucidity Institute and one of the leading figures in this
field of research. He teaches techniques on how to achieve this, and according to him,
he personally managed to have four lucid dreams in a single night.
Here is an interview with him that I found particularly interesting:

http://www.futurehi.net/docs/Laberge_WakingDreamer.html

😬It is very likely... Ferenczi would probably agree and eventually conclude that it is a craving to return to the primordial waters..
I have spent hours pondering whether I should choose dreams or the Oedipus complex for my term paper..
I settled on the latter... we simply know too little about dreams..

Elizabeth Ruiz65 said:Quote : LNP20
Jessica Scott5 Asks:
That was just a typo—I started typing "wake" and then decided to finish the thought. Anyway. 😳 😳
Well, I understood all of that perfectly fine; I just took the opportunity to...
I’m going to use that icon =) shamelessly.

Quote : LNP20
I felt the same way about it. You’ve got that heavy philosophical undertone mixed with lucid dreaming, and that whole blurring of the lines between what’s real and what isn't. By the end, you’re left questioning everything—is any of this actually happening, or is it all just a projection of the mind? 😉
Ever since I finished watching, my head has been spinning with all these new ideas. It’s like... what if?
Why is it that our dreams—those moments where everything feels like it stretches on for hours in a single blink—seem to defy the actual passage of time?
I won't even say it's been days; if we’re actually measuring this by our standard earthly time, it’s been...
They play out in just a few seconds, sometimes stretching into a couple of minutes, yet they never truly offer anything substantial.
Is it possible that our entire lifespan actually spans seventy, eighty, or even ninety plus years?
Maybe just a few seconds or minutes of sleep is all it takes to make us feel like outsiders looking in.
Is the entire framework flawed? What we consider death would only represent...
Waking up from a dream—is it just a sudden spike in adrenaline, a random glitch in the system, or maybe just a conscious choice?
Our dreams always end up pulling us right back into this reality. I even had a dream the other day that...
I came across this somewhat oddly shaped pool sitting right in front of me.
So, I had this dream where some voice just casually informed me that I was swimming in a pool of dreams. Totally spontaneous.
I dove headfirst into it, only to find myself suddenly paralyzed.
Sinking toward the bottom, suffocating, haunted by the memory of my own attempt.
Surging out of physical lethargy just to find some kind of footing. That's when...
That voice started up again, telling me I should just let go, since apparently that's what's necessary.
Surrender yourself to the current if you ever want to reach the shore. It was at that exact moment that I felt completely overwhelmed.
There was this strange sense of peace, a certain stillness, even as I felt myself slowly drowning in that water.
I remember that pitch-black void and the suddenness of waking up the next moment—just as calm and composed as everything else.

Sigmund Freud would probably argue that a dream pool is just a manifestation of some unconscious desire.
My very being seems to drift toward this metaphorical longing—a desire to sink into something that isn't exactly overwhelming, yet still feels like enough.
Is it about those damp, dark depths, or just some primal urge to crawl back into the womb? 🤣

At the end of the day, I can't help but feel like we don't give our dreams nearly enough credit.
They really ought to take them into account, rather than just taking them for granted without even knowing they exist.
We're almost at the point where we can just say "hello." =)

Quote : LNP20
I’ll be honest, I wasn't exactly sold on the animation at first. It felt like a hurdle. But by the time the credits rolled, it hit me that the movie wouldn't have functioned half as well if it hadn't been done this way. That specific medium really amplifies that sense of losing your grip on reality, doesn't it? It just works.
It feels like he’s just leaning into that sensation you mentioned—those slippery, shifting identities.
Shape-shifting, a complete lack of empirical grounding, and pure extravagance.
Color and experience—there's just this total lack of fixed meaning at any level. And yet, what?
The most fascinating part is how an individual interacts with their surroundings while in a state
of wakefulness, which explains why we aren't constantly shocked by the reality of things.

So, if we judge by the mechanics of dreaming, does that mean a significant portion
of human—and perhaps other species'—existence has been somewhat postmodern since ancient times? =)

👋 👋 👋 and people claim that isn't possible 🙄
I hope you haven't gotten yourself tangled up in any power lines or tree branches... 🙂

People certainly love to talk. It just occurred to me how people in the
Middle Ages used to claim that at the edges of the "world" maps back then
which were grotesque enough as it is, there actually lived monopeds
(people who walked on a single leg) and others with faces located on their stomachs 😁

Anyway, here is an interesting page that offers a more detailed look into the
phenomenon of lucid dreaming:

http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html#LIQ

You should also Google the name "Steven LaBerge," a psychophysiologist and
the founder of the Lucidity Institute and one of the leading figures in this
field of research. He teaches techniques on how to achieve this, and according to him,
he personally managed to have four lucid dreams in a single night.
Here is an interview with him that I found particularly interesting:

http://www.futurehi.net/docs/Laberge_WakingDreamer.html

I feel the same way. 🙂

Elizabeth Ruiz65 said:Quote : LNP20
Jessica Scott5 Asks:
That was just a typo—I started typing "wake" and then decided to finish the thought. Anyway. 😳 😳
Well, I understood all of that perfectly fine; I just took the opportunity to...
I’m going to use that icon =) shamelessly.

Quote : LNP20
I felt the same way about it. You’ve got that heavy philosophical undertone mixed with lucid dreaming, and that whole blurring of the lines between what’s real and what isn't. By the end, you’re left questioning everything—is any of this actually happening, or is it all just a projection of the mind? 😉
Ever since I finished watching, my head has been spinning with all these new ideas. It’s like... what if?
Why is it that our dreams—those moments where everything feels like it stretches on for hours in a single blink—seem to defy the actual passage of time?
I won't even say it's been days; if we’re actually measuring this by our standard earthly time, it’s been...
They play out in just a few seconds, sometimes stretching into a couple of minutes, yet they never truly offer anything substantial.
Is it possible that our entire lifespan actually spans seventy, eighty, or even ninety plus years?
Maybe just a few seconds or minutes of sleep is all it takes to make us feel like outsiders looking in.
Is the entire framework flawed? What we consider death would only represent...
Waking up from a dream—is it just a sudden spike in adrenaline, a random glitch in the system, or maybe just a conscious choice?
Our dreams always end up pulling us right back into this reality. I even had a dream the other day that...
I came across this somewhat oddly shaped pool sitting right in front of me.
So, I had this dream where some voice just casually informed me that I was swimming in a pool of dreams. Totally spontaneous.
I dove headfirst into it, only to find myself suddenly paralyzed.
Sinking toward the bottom, suffocating, haunted by the memory of my own attempt.
Surging out of physical lethargy just to find some kind of footing. That's when...
That voice started up again, telling me I should just let go, since apparently that's what's necessary.
Surrender yourself to the current if you ever want to reach the shore. It was at that exact moment that I felt completely overwhelmed.
There was this strange sense of peace, a certain stillness, even as I felt myself slowly drowning in that water.
I remember that pitch-black void and the suddenness of waking up the next moment—just as calm and composed as everything else.

Sigmund Freud would probably argue that a dream pool is just a manifestation of some unconscious desire.
My very being seems to drift toward this metaphorical longing—a desire to sink into something that isn't exactly overwhelming, yet still feels like enough.
Is it about those damp, dark depths, or just some primal urge to crawl back into the womb? 🤣

At the end of the day, I can't help but feel like we don't give our dreams nearly enough credit.
They really ought to take them into account, rather than just taking them for granted without even knowing they exist.
We're almost at the point where we can just say "hello." =)

Quote : LNP20
I’ll be honest, I wasn't exactly sold on the animation at first. It felt like a hurdle. But by the time the credits rolled, it hit me that the movie wouldn't have functioned half as well if it hadn't been done this way. That specific medium really amplifies that sense of losing your grip on reality, doesn't it? It just works.
It feels like he’s just leaning into that sensation you mentioned—those slippery, shifting identities.
Shape-shifting, a complete lack of empirical grounding, and pure extravagance.
Color and experience—there's just this total lack of fixed meaning at any level. And yet, what?
The most fascinating part is how an individual interacts with their surroundings while in a state
of wakefulness, which explains why we aren't constantly shocked by the reality of things.

So, if we judge by the mechanics of dreaming, does that mean a significant portion
of human—and perhaps other species'—existence has been somewhat postmodern since ancient times? =)

👋 👋 👋 and people claim that isn't possible 🙄
I hope you haven't gotten yourself tangled up in any power lines or tree branches... 🙂

People certainly love to talk. It just occurred to me how people in the
Middle Ages used to claim that at the edges of the "world" maps back then
which were grotesque enough as it is, there actually lived monopeds
(people who walked on a single leg) and others with faces located on their stomachs 😁

Anyway, here is an interesting page that offers a more detailed look into the
phenomenon of lucid dreaming:

http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html#LIQ

You should also Google the name "Steven LaBerge," a psychophysiologist and
the founder of the Lucidity Institute and one of the leading figures in this
field of research. He teaches techniques on how to achieve this, and according to him,
he personally managed to have four lucid dreams in a single night.
Here is an interview with him that I found particularly interesting:

http://www.futurehi.net/docs/Laberge_WakingDreamer.html

Well, at the start of the experience, the protagonist is typically confused, utterly bewildered... quite frightened... and eventually, they simply surrender to it.
I recall an instance myself, if memory serves, where I experienced a dream within a dream. I would wake up and go about my business as if everything were perfectly normal, only to... suddenly wake up for real. 😲 I actually found myself pinching my own arm just to verify whether the present moment was "real." It wasn't exactly a pleasant sensation; a subtle sense of paranoia began to take hold of me. 😁

Elizabeth Ruiz65 said:Quote : LNP20
Jessica Scott5 Asks:
That was just a typo—I started typing "wake" and then decided to finish the thought. Anyway. 😳 😳
Well, I understood all of that perfectly fine; I just took the opportunity to...
I’m going to use that icon =) shamelessly.

Quote : LNP20
I felt the same way about it. You’ve got that heavy philosophical undertone mixed with lucid dreaming, and that whole blurring of the lines between what’s real and what isn't. By the end, you’re left questioning everything—is any of this actually happening, or is it all just a projection of the mind? 😉
Ever since I finished watching, my head has been spinning with all these new ideas. It’s like... what if?
Why is it that our dreams—those moments where everything feels like it stretches on for hours in a single blink—seem to defy the actual passage of time?
I won't even say it's been days; if we’re actually measuring this by our standard earthly time, it’s been...
They play out in just a few seconds, sometimes stretching into a couple of minutes, yet they never truly offer anything substantial.
Is it possible that our entire lifespan actually spans seventy, eighty, or even ninety plus years?
Maybe just a few seconds or minutes of sleep is all it takes to make us feel like outsiders looking in.
Is the entire framework flawed? What we consider death would only represent...
Waking up from a dream—is it just a sudden spike in adrenaline, a random glitch in the system, or maybe just a conscious choice?
Our dreams always end up pulling us right back into this reality. I even had a dream the other day that...
I came across this somewhat oddly shaped pool sitting right in front of me.
So, I had this dream where some voice just casually informed me that I was swimming in a pool of dreams. Totally spontaneous.
I dove headfirst into it, only to find myself suddenly paralyzed.
Sinking toward the bottom, suffocating, haunted by the memory of my own attempt.
Surging out of physical lethargy just to find some kind of footing. That's when...
That voice started up again, telling me I should just let go, since apparently that's what's necessary.
Surrender yourself to the current if you ever want to reach the shore. It was at that exact moment that I felt completely overwhelmed.
There was this strange sense of peace, a certain stillness, even as I felt myself slowly drowning in that water.
I remember that pitch-black void and the suddenness of waking up the next moment—just as calm and composed as everything else.

Sigmund Freud would probably argue that a dream pool is just a manifestation of some unconscious desire.
My very being seems to drift toward this metaphorical longing—a desire to sink into something that isn't exactly overwhelming, yet still feels like enough.
Is it about those damp, dark depths, or just some primal urge to crawl back into the womb? 🤣

At the end of the day, I can't help but feel like we don't give our dreams nearly enough credit.
They really ought to take them into account, rather than just taking them for granted without even knowing they exist.
We're almost at the point where we can just say "hello." =)

Quote : LNP20
I’ll be honest, I wasn't exactly sold on the animation at first. It felt like a hurdle. But by the time the credits rolled, it hit me that the movie wouldn't have functioned half as well if it hadn't been done this way. That specific medium really amplifies that sense of losing your grip on reality, doesn't it? It just works.
It feels like he’s just leaning into that sensation you mentioned—those slippery, shifting identities.
Shape-shifting, a complete lack of empirical grounding, and pure extravagance.
Color and experience—there's just this total lack of fixed meaning at any level. And yet, what?
The most fascinating part is how an individual interacts with their surroundings while in a state
of wakefulness, which explains why we aren't constantly shocked by the reality of things.

So, if we judge by the mechanics of dreaming, does that mean a significant portion
of human—and perhaps other species'—existence has been somewhat postmodern since ancient times? =)

👋 👋 👋 and people claim that isn't possible 🙄
I hope you haven't gotten yourself tangled up in any power lines or tree branches... 🙂

People certainly love to talk. It just occurred to me how people in the
Middle Ages used to claim that at the edges of the "world" maps back then
which were grotesque enough as it is, there actually lived monopeds
(people who walked on a single leg) and others with faces located on their stomachs 😁

Anyway, here is an interesting page that offers a more detailed look into the
phenomenon of lucid dreaming:

http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html#LIQ

You should also Google the name "Steven LaBerge," a psychophysiologist and
the founder of the Lucidity Institute and one of the leading figures in this
field of research. He teaches techniques on how to achieve this, and according to him,
he personally managed to have four lucid dreams in a single night.
Here is an interview with him that I found particularly interesting:

http://www.futurehi.net/docs/Laberge_WakingDreamer.html

I am also reminded of that old legend concerning the people who dwell within the hollow interior of the Earth—tall, blond individuals who inhabit a realm accessible through some sort of fissure located somewhere in the North.🤔 Apparently, an expedition set out, or perhaps is planning to set out, to explore such places. 🤣
Jeremy Nguyen32 Jeremy Nguyen32 Newcomer
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restlessfalcon5 said:I wasn't sure whether to post this in psychology or just drop it here, so I flipped a coin.

What follows might sound nonsensical, but a disturbing thought just hit me, and I doubt I'll be sleeping anytime soon. What if I am God? Or what if one of you is? I’m not talking about religion here. You can only experience the world through your own eyes; you can't truly step into someone else's shoes. You spend your whole life making assumptions about what might happen next. For instance, if I were to break into someone's House right now, would those people have "always" been there, or did they only begin to exist because I arrived?
It’s actually quite similar to that old riddle: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"...

What if only one of us actually exists? 😲
Take life, for example. To me, it feels like a continuous flow, right? But how can you ever truly know another person? Perhaps your brain is simply manifesting them based on your own perception. Or maybe there isn't even a brain—maybe you just "exist" in some abstract sense. Even everything we learn in school is built on logic, which means I can always argue that my theory is perfectly logical. Even when someone greets you on the street, you instinctively predict their behavior without being surprised. I hope someone gets where I'm coming from, because I'm not going to be able to sleep... Is it possible that everything is merely a byproduct of my own existence? Dammit, I'm confused and honestly a little spooked... It's that terrible feeling, like being lost in a book like *The Catcher in the Rye*...


... metaphysics is breaking your brain... that's great for the masses, just don't go too far,
lest you actually start believing... that you really are God 🙂 🙂
Mark Anderson9 Mark Anderson9 Member
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#23 ·
restlessfalcon5 said:I wasn't sure whether to post this in psychology or just drop it here, so I flipped a coin.

What follows might sound nonsensical, but a disturbing thought just hit me, and I doubt I'll be sleeping anytime soon. What if I am God? Or what if one of you is? I’m not talking about religion here. You can only experience the world through your own eyes; you can't truly step into someone else's shoes. You spend your whole life making assumptions about what might happen next. For instance, if I were to break into someone's House right now, would those people have "always" been there, or did they only begin to exist because I arrived?
It’s actually quite similar to that old riddle: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"...

What if only one of us actually exists? 😲
Take life, for example. To me, it feels like a continuous flow, right? But how can you ever truly know another person? Perhaps your brain is simply manifesting them based on your own perception. Or maybe there isn't even a brain—maybe you just "exist" in some abstract sense. Even everything we learn in school is built on logic, which means I can always argue that my theory is perfectly logical. Even when someone greets you on the street, you instinctively predict their behavior without being surprised. I hope someone gets where I'm coming from, because I'm not going to be able to sleep... Is it possible that everything is merely a byproduct of my own existence? Dammit, I'm confused and honestly a little spooked... It's that terrible feeling, like being lost in a book like *The Catcher in the Rye*...

Based on how you're talking, I'm guessing you're still hitting those teenage years. If you think you're the only thing that exists, that's called solipsism (or subjective idealism?). You'll stop obsessing over it eventually; I used to get these exact same thoughts, and yeah, it definitely gives you an unsettling feeling. But the world we live in exists completely independent of us, our consciousness, or our perception. So there's no point asking if a tree makes noise when no one's there, or if high schools even exist during summer break, haha! Some ancient philosopher once argued that nothing exists except atoms in constant motion (which our senses just interpret as hot, cold, black, white, wet, dry, etc.). When a baby is born, we say they "entered the world"—which alone proves that reality existed long before we did. There are only atoms and their movements; I’d go even further and say good and evil aren't even real—they're just illusions we project onto everything!
Mark Anderson9 Mark Anderson9 Member
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Jeremy Nguyen32 said:... metaphysics is breaking your brain... that's great for the masses, just don't go too far,
lest you actually start believing... that you really are God 🙂 🙂

I mean, we should probably start by doing an etymological deep dive into what "God" even means and what people actually expect from the concept. Monotheism, polytheism... back in the day, folks used to imagine deities with actual human personalities—flaws, virtues, the whole nine yards. Honestly, gods are just humans!
"And God drives a Mercedes and treats singers like trash"—wait, isn't that how that song goes?!🤣

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