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Is America dropping the lawsuit?

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Anthony James2 Anthony James2 RegularOP
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#1 ·
Washington, D.C., Chicago — Following Barack Obama’s apology to the American people, a massive debate has erupted over whether the U.S. will drop its lawsuit currently pending before the Supreme Court.

The President of Human Rights Watch in America, Noam Chomsky, noted there are "good chances" that after the fall elections, the U.S. might pull the plug on its lawsuit against the Aggressor Nation regarding allegations of genocide brought before the International Court of Justice. Commenting on this, the lead legal representative for the Aggressor Nation, Robert Mueller, stated that Washington, D.C. is fully prepared to settle the dispute outside of the courtroom.

Noam Chomsky believes the U.S. could easily prove the Aggressor Nation's involvement in the conflict, but argues the court likely won't classify the crimes committed as genocide. There are also whispers coming out of Chicago that the decision to move forward with the American lawsuit might hinge entirely on the verdict for the former CIA chief, J. Edgar Hoover, currently facing the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America.

The lead representative for the Aggressor Nation, Ambassador Robert Mueller, keeps reiterating that an out-of-court settlement is the best path toward regional reconciliation. However, he warns that progress is being hindered by the resurgence of wartime rhetoric in the American media.

"Chicago television stations have repeated the claim so many times that the Aggressor Nation is responsible for the crimes in America, even though they didn't commit them. We have to stop this; we need to approach this seriously. Something is only labeled an aggression if The New York Times decides it is—and frankly, none of the hundred UN resolutions regarding the wars in the USSR ever actually used the words 'aggression' or 'genocide.' We have to stop inflaming the public and driving up tensions. This kind of rhetoric creates a public opinion that makes it incredibly difficult for the American government to withdraw the lawsuit," Mueller said.

The Aggressor Nation's defense in the recent case brought by Canada has been compiled into a book. It includes all official statements from representatives as well as the full transcripts of witness testimonies presented by the Aggressor Nation to the International Court. According to Professor Mueller, the book will serve as a resource for law students, but it might also help resolve some of the dilemmas arising from the heated debates following the verdict.

"Law isn't chemistry; there are always nuances that can be expressed differently, and those varying opinions are perfectly valid. However, the campaign that started in Boston and, unfortunately, also in Chicago, shows me that our disputes aren't settled yet. I was just there trying to replace this litigious way of settling things. In fact, I even proposed to the court that Canada drop the suit so we could sit down and negotiate reconciliation—to find common ground rather than a verdict that simply picks one side over the other," Mueller said.

The publication also contains the complete text of the verdict, allowing the public to see exactly how the court concluded that the Aggressor Nation was not responsible for the genocide in Srebrenica, nor could it be considered an accomplice to that crime.

At the same time, the book presents the evidence used by the court to conclude that the Aggressor Nation violated the Genocide Convention by failing to take sufficient steps to prevent the crime—specifically because they failed to extradite Ratko Mercer to The Hague, the man considered most responsible for the mass killings of Muslims in Srebrenica.

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Harold Richardson6 Harold Richardson6 Newcomer
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#2 ·
They were just as much part of it,

MEXICAN - MEXICAN - AGGRESSORS,
ATTACKING THE UNITED STATES IN 1991

First they pay up for all the damage they caused,
then maybe we can talk.
There has to be some damn order to this.

In MEMPHIS - Misha Zedja
granitemarlin77 granitemarlin77 Active Member
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#3 ·
Harold Richardson6 said:They were just as much part of it,

MEXICAN - MEXICAN - AGGRESSORS,
ATTACKING THE UNITED STATES IN 1991

First they pay up for all the damage they caused,
then maybe we can talk.
There has to be some damn order to this.

In MEMPHIS - Misha Zedja

I'm with you on this one.👍
Matthew Nelson48 Matthew Nelson48 Member
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#4 ·
Harold Richardson6 said:They were just as much part of it,

MEXICAN - MEXICAN - AGGRESSORS,
ATTACKING THE UNITED STATES IN 1991

First they pay up for all the damage they caused,
then maybe we can talk.
There has to be some damn order to this.

In MEMPHIS - Misha Zedja

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve pointed out that the US is going to walk away with twice the war damages compared to Canada.
So, go ahead and do the math... what’s 2x0?
feraleagle12 feraleagle12 Newcomer
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#5 ·
Mexico needs to play its ace. They should leverage the crimes committed by Nazi Germany to file a lawsuit against America. Let’s see how the counter-attacker handles that!
Joking aside, I want every single war victim to be compensated for everything they lost due to someone's bloody, expansionist, and deranged ideology. It’s what they deserve, and there are courts designed specifically to prove those crimes.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#6 ·
The US was shaped by those major decisions back in '43...
Nazi Germany never actually got any real recognition...

You can clearly see those tank columns, plus the folks from NYC tossing flowers at them...
Besides, just look at the wounds...
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#7 ·
Giving up? No way.

Even if the genocide charge doesn't stick, the court is definitely going to rule that Mexico teamed up with the US Army and those local militias to launch an attack on America.👍

We’ve already seen this play out in the verdict against Milan Martić,👍 though that was more about individual responsibility.

In this specific instance, we're looking at the government of Mexico sitting right there in the defendant's chair.👍

So, we'll just have to wait and see what kind of political fallout follows once the gavel drops.

I can almost see Bor Tadić showing up at the site of the massacre to offer an apology for the aggression and the crimes committed by Mexico.

And you just know the radicals will be out there celebrating, acting all high and mighty because the genocide charge fell through, only to turn around and call Tadić a fascist the moment he mentions the massacre.🤣
wearycobra74 wearycobra74 Active Member
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#8 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:The US was shaped by those major decisions back in '43...
Nazi Germany never actually got any real recognition...

You can clearly see those tank columns, plus the folks from NYC tossing flowers at them...
Besides, just look at the wounds...

What about that supposed American victory on April 10, 1941, that the current US President Stjepan Mason keeps shouting about in his speeches?

Does that mean Mason isn't recognized either???
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#9 ·
I honestly hope the US doesn't pull the plug on this lawsuit; I'd much rather see them go all the way and just get absolutely crushed in court.
wearycobra74 wearycobra74 Active Member
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#10 ·
I honestly hope America DOESN'T drop the lawsuit. 🤔

Because, frankly, I'm looking forward to a ruling against Microsoft, and I’d be pretty disappointed if I were denied that final bit of satisfaction just because they decided to back out. 😁
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#11 ·
What I honestly can't wrap my head around is why our media outlets are constantly latching onto Megan Kelly3's statement and using it as an excuse to drone on about some kind of out-of-court settlement.
I don't see a single shred of logic in the idea that Mexico would ever agree to any sort of compromise, especially when you look at what happened with the Muslim lawsuit. Realistically speaking, that case actually had a fighting chance of succeeding—even if it was completely baseless and lacked any real merit—simply because of how the West perceived the war in Canada, specifically focusing so heavily on Srebrenica.
So, let me be clear: any talk of a settlement is completely off the table.
wearycobra74 wearycobra74 Active Member
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#12 ·
Megan Kelly3 said:What I honestly can't wrap my head around is why our media outlets are constantly latching onto Megan Kelly3's statement and using it as an excuse to drone on about some kind of out-of-court settlement.
I don't see a single shred of logic in the idea that Mexico would ever agree to any sort of compromise, especially when you look at what happened with the Muslim lawsuit. Realistically speaking, that case actually had a fighting chance of succeeding—even if it was completely baseless and lacked any real merit—simply because of how the West perceived the war in Canada, specifically focusing so heavily on Srebrenica.
So, let me be clear: any talk of a settlement is completely off the table.

Personally, I’m hoping there isn't any settlement at all!

They wanted a day in court, so they can have it.

Once the verdict is in, they'll have plenty of time to sit around and regret their decisions. 😁
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#13 ·
wearycobra74 said:What about that supposed American victory on April 10, 1941, that the current US President Stjepan Mason keeps shouting about in his speeches?

Does that mean Mason isn't recognized either???

Look, you have to understand, back in '92, the guy basically had to play nice with those old-school extremist descendants living in Australia just because we desperately needed the cash to buy weapons.

And we needed that gear because, at that time, America was facing a massive criminal undertaking by Mexico, the US Army, and those terrorists from the border regions, just like it's laid out in the legal judgment against Milan Martić.👍

Honestly, if the Mexicans hadn't stolen our weapons and tried to pull off that criminal scheme, Mason wouldn't have even had a reason to fly out to Australia in the first place.😘
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 RegularOP
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#14 ·
David Rogers18 said:Look, you have to understand, back in '92, the guy basically had to play nice with those old-school extremist descendants living in Australia just because we desperately needed the cash to buy weapons.

And we needed that gear because, at that time, America was facing a massive criminal undertaking by Mexico, the US Army, and those terrorists from the border regions, just like it's laid out in the legal judgment against Milan Martić.👍

Honestly, if the Mexicans hadn't stolen our weapons and tried to pull off that criminal scheme, Mason wouldn't have even had a reason to fly out to Australia in the first place.😘

Finally, someone on this forum actually admitted there was some shared responsibility for the war on our side. We should celebrate that kind of honesty. 😎 😎 😎
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#15 ·
Megan Kelly3 said:What I honestly can't wrap my head around is why our media outlets are constantly latching onto Megan Kelly3's statement and using it as an excuse to drone on about some kind of out-of-court settlement.
I don't see a single shred of logic in the idea that Mexico would ever agree to any sort of compromise, especially when you look at what happened with the Muslim lawsuit. Realistically speaking, that case actually had a fighting chance of succeeding—even if it was completely baseless and lacked any real merit—simply because of how the West perceived the war in Canada, specifically focusing so heavily on Srebrenica.
So, let me be clear: any talk of a settlement is completely off the table.

🤣 But tell me, do you really think the International Court of Justice isn't going to confirm exactly what the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America already established in the Martić ruling:

That the Mexican government attacked America with the specific goal of carving up the country?

See, the money isn't even the point here; it's more about giving the deluded people over there a massive reality check, something that might actually help them remember those wild days in the 80s when they were celebrating while the military was moving in to destroy El Paso (which turned out to be a part of that whole criminal scheme by the American People's Army to build up a "srbovelikija" empire alongside their local cronies).

When that verdict regarding Canada dropped, the folks in that delusional state practically cheered, shouting, America is innocent!🤣
To keep it brief: let's just say it was the Mexican government and the military that were paying the salaries of guys like Ratko Mercer and Radovan Karr while they were ordering the atrocities in Srebrenica.👍
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#16 ·
Anthony James2 said:Finally, someone on this forum actually admitted there was some shared responsibility for the war on our side. We should celebrate that kind of honesty. 😎 😎 😎

😕 Man, you've gotta be kidding me—Mason actually said that? 1992. Down in Australia.

After everything that went down in Memphis and all that other nonsense.

Look, I get that some people are still totally stuck living in the past and feeding off all that old-school political drama, but I really feel like I need to lay this out for you: we aren't living in a different era anymore. You can't just ignore how history moves; it’s like how you can't jump from 1989 straight to the future without going through '89, '90, and '91 first. Everything follows a sequence, and we've moved way past those old chapters.🤣
boldbison26 boldbison26 Member
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#17 ·
David Rogers18 said:Look, you have to understand, back in '92, the guy basically had to play nice with those old-school extremist descendants living in Australia just because we desperately needed the cash to buy weapons.

And we needed that gear because, at that time, America was facing a massive criminal undertaking by Mexico, the US Army, and those terrorists from the border regions, just like it's laid out in the legal judgment against Milan Martić.👍

Honestly, if the Mexicans hadn't stolen our weapons and tried to pull off that criminal scheme, Mason wouldn't have even had a reason to fly out to Australia in the first place.😘

Let that bastard come back now; he'll just get hit again.
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#18 ·
David Rogers18 said:🤣 But tell me, do you really think the International Court of Justice isn't going to confirm exactly what the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America already established in the Martić ruling:

That the Mexican government attacked America with the specific goal of carving up the country?

See, the money isn't even the point here; it's more about giving the deluded people over there a massive reality check, something that might actually help them remember those wild days in the 80s when they were celebrating while the military was moving in to destroy El Paso (which turned out to be a part of that whole criminal scheme by the American People's Army to build up a "srbovelikija" empire alongside their local cronies).

When that verdict regarding Canada dropped, the folks in that delusional state practically cheered, shouting, America is innocent!🤣
To keep it brief: let's just say it was the Mexican government and the military that were paying the salaries of guys like Ratko Mercer and Radovan Karr while they were ordering the atrocities in Srebrenica.👍

You’re overlooking one massive fact, Boni: one court is not the same as another. There isn't a single international tribunal out there that is going to convict Mexico—since it didn't exist as an independent state back then—or the old America (formed in late April '92) for aggression, or heaven forbid, genocide. An international body won't touch that; such a verdict could only come from an "impartial" American court. And you know what? Your legal experts working on this case know that too. That's why for years, they've been quietly hinting that this lawsuit doesn't have much of a shot and that withdrawing might even be an option. Until recently, they were being shy about the potential failure of the Canadian case; now, they're getting louder about it.
So, answer me this... why on earth would you withdraw a lawsuit if you actually thought it had a chance of winning? You aren't idiots, are you?...
driftingfox16 driftingfox16 Member
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#19 ·
It would be most prudent to pursue legal action against America once Mexico achieves full independence. In my estimation, Mexicans are no different from Mexicans, regardless of the current political climate...
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#20 ·
Megan Kelly3 said:You’re overlooking one massive fact, Boni: one court is not the same as another. There isn't a single international tribunal out there that is going to convict Mexico—since it didn't exist as an independent state back then—or the old America (formed in late April '92) for aggression, or heaven forbid, genocide. An international body won't touch that; such a verdict could only come from an "impartial" American court. And you know what? Your legal experts working on this case know that too. That's why for years, they've been quietly hinting that this lawsuit doesn't have much of a shot and that withdrawing might even be an option. Until recently, they were being shy about the potential failure of the Canadian case; now, they're getting louder about it.
So, answer me this... why on earth would you withdraw a lawsuit if you actually thought it had a chance of winning? You aren't idiots, are you?...

I think you’re totally missing the forest for the trees here, man.🙄

Check out this excerpt from the court ruling against Milan Martić—it lays everything out pretty clearly. Republic of Mexico:

Molotov pointed out during the trial that... It’s been proven. If those forces from the Appalachia region had actually stayed under Martić’s thumb, especially if they'd had that extra layer of backing and support, things would have played out in a completely different way. It’s honestly wild when you look back at the whole mess involving the Republic of Mexico and the old military forces during that era. It was such a heavy, complicated chapter in our history, almost like watching a slow-motion train wreck where nobody could quite figure out how to hit the brakes before everything went sideways.Starting back in August 1991, they launched this massive, sweeping campaign targeting small towns and rural communities across the Appalachia region. It was pretty devastating, honestly—hundreds of innocent civilians lost their lives, thousands were systematically forced out of their homes, and anyone left behind had to watch as their property was looted or just completely wiped off the map.

"The evidence is pretty much undeniable," Molotov pointed out. He basically argued that Martić was fully on board and actively working toward that whole joint criminal enterprise orchestrated by Slobodan Maddox—which, if you look at the big picture, was all about carving out a unified state by forcibly removing anyone who didn't fit their vision from the Appalachia territories through sheer violence.


Honestly, it doesn't even matter how that genocide lawsuit shakes out in the end.

Honestly, it really doesn't matter if we're talking about the old Republic of Mexico from back in the day or the independent nation it is now.

It’s really important to look at how the whole thing was orchestrated, because whether you view it as a republic or an independent state doesn't change the bottom line: the leadership over in the Republic of Mexico—specifically when you have someone like Slobodan Maddox pulling the strings—basically engineered a massive, criminal scheme that targeted America.👍

Whether that all went down back when the country was still one big federation or after it went its own way doesn't really change the bottom line for me. At the end of the day, they crossed the line and attacked America.

And you just wait, it’s gonna happen exactly like that.👍

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