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How to master lucid dreaming?

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Participants Maria Collins2cosmicmaker462Kate Flores4Gregory Lewis37John Myers4Megan Reed4silverstag33Justin Brooks91Nicholas Booth4velvetwolf26Jeremy Reyesgranitemaker322Emily Turner41stormylynx23Taylor Campbell4redharbor9Amanda Jackson6Benjamin Gray91Hannah Wells3redpilot37Jacob Martinez21Linda Fisher4Walter Martinez32Jonathan Mitchell …
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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#21 ·
You can find more information regarding lucid dreaming over at dreamershub.com. There are even several firsthand accounts from people who have experienced fully lucid dreams there.
Even after reading through those stories—which I can personally vouch for based on my own experiences—you might find yourself slipping into a lucid or semi-lucid dream state...
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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#22 ·
I think I’ve actually had two semi-lucid dreams. In one of them, I was being chased—basically, some detectives were trying to arrest me. At one point, I became somewhat conscious and said something I knew—I can't quite recall 😬—but it had to do with Sai Baba, that spiritual teacher from India. I just remembered his name while in the dream.
The other time, I was hiking through all of Europe with this girl 😬 (this happened right after I read that article on Yoga Journal). In real life, I had been daydreaming about taking her on a trip or something. So, in the dream, we went trekking, and then somewhere in Central Europe (😬), we mutually decided to part ways; I told her I wanted to keep moving forward, and she headed back. It was also somewhat lucid—well, maybe not fully lucid, but more like one of those wish-fulfillment dreams (the kind they talk about on Yoga Journal) where you experience a desire, and once it's fulfilled, you aren't tied to that craving anymore... 😉
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#23 ·
You can totally experience a lucid dream all on your own—like, they just happen spontaneously. It’s just that people don't notice them until they actually know what to look for...

It usually happens during that last REM stage right before you wake up, or in that half-asleep state before you're fully conscious...

So how do you learn it? The absolute biggest thing is starting to remember your dreams. You need a dream journal—keep a notebook right by your nightstand (or wherever you crash) and write down everything you dreamed the second you wake up. No "just five more minutes" bullshit allowed. 😁

That way, you get more aware of your dreams, you remember them better, and you start thinking about them more. Eventually, it just clicks while you're dreaming 😁 and then you can use all those different reality check techniques... There's some popular one involving light, though I can't recall the specifics right now... someone else borrowed my book on Lucid dreams so I can't check it...

But whatever, there's tons of books and articles online you can download. Anyone can find a way that works for them.

And here's the kicker: you aren't going to master this in two days and suddenly be a pro. That's what trips most people up. You need serious concentration, which was my biggest struggle. Even though mine is pretty damn good, staying in that conscious dream state without slipping back into a deep sleep or waking up entirely is tough.
Amanda Jackson6 Amanda Jackson6 Member
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#24 ·
maybe try downloading this at this link and just let it play while you're winding down for bed. honestly, it's basically an instant way to 😁
Amanda Jackson6 Amanda Jackson6 Member
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#25 ·
stormylynx23 said:This topic really caught my eye, so I figured I’d just ask: what’s actually the point of lucid dreaming?
I’ve kind of realized lately that just paying attention to regular dreams—assuming I can actually remember them—is pretty useful. It’s helped me out big time on two separate occasions in my life, plus a few minor wins here and there. My theory? You basically "see" all the stuff you're too stubborn to face while you're awake. If I'm getting this right, the subconscious is basically running the whole show once you're out cold...

I’ve wondered about that myself—whether this is even a good thing. It feels like everyone has some built-in resistance to interpreting their dreams or even trying to remember them (maybe that's why they slip away so easily?), though obviously, it happens on a level we aren't even conscious of.
The subconscious uses dreams to push its own desires, fantasies, and whatever else is lurking there—and if we fight it too hard, that's when phobias and other weird manifestations start popping up. Psychoanalysis is pretty much all about bringing those hidden, repressed fantasies to light so a person can finally make peace with themselves. So, I'd say becoming aware of your dreams is probably fine. A Lucid dream is still just a product of the unconscious, after all. Like any other dream, it’s got its censored version and its underlying meaning, so you still have to do the work to untangle it. To me, a Lucid dream is only special because of the experience itself; we experience it as reality, just like a normal dream, only we happen to be aware of it.
And honestly, that isn't always pleasant if fear is what's driving the dream. At the end of the day, whether someone actually wants to Lucid dream or not is entirely up to them.
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#26 ·
Yeah, but this is just ONE theory out of a whole bunch about why we dream or if there’s even a point to it.

There are tons of other explanations and theories out there. None of them are 100% certain or exclusive, so you can't just be this rigid and look at everything through the lens of one single theory.
Benjamin Gray91 Benjamin Gray91 Newcomer
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#27 ·
You can totally experience a lucid dream all on your own—like, they just pop up spontaneously... it’s just that people don't really notice them happening until they actually learn what they are...

So true. Honestly, after I first heard about the whole concept of lucid dreaming, I realized it had actually happened to me a few times already. I knew it wasn't just some normal dream because I was fully aware that I was dreaming, which basically meant I had control over the whole thing. I have no clue how or why it happened, but I know it was during that phase where I was sleeping like 13 hours a day (just killing time during the summer when there was nothing else to do until the sun went down 😁). Now that I'm barely getting any sleep and crashing hard from exhaustion most nights, it just doesn't happen anymore. Most of the time I'm not even dreaming; I'm just passing out so I can catch whatever rest I can get...
Amanda Jackson6 Amanda Jackson6 Member
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#28 ·
redharbor9 said:Yeah, but this is just ONE theory out of a whole bunch about why we dream or if there’s even a point to it.

There are tons of other explanations and theories out there. None of them are 100% certain or exclusive, so you can't just be this rigid and look at everything through the lens of one single theory.

Of course it doesn't have to be that way. I've got another theory in mind—it doesn't exactly fit into that purely psychoanalytic mold, but it doesn't change much given what I already said.
I get it, really. Someone writes a book, you read it, and suddenly you think you've cracked the code... but damn, the person who wrote it is just a human being, just like you. We all deal with the same perceptual limits, so—especially when it comes to stuff like this—it's nearly impossible to argue our way toward some 100% true, objective conclusion. If scientists are still tearing their hair out over it, what chance do we have of reaching an agreement?
I'm just throwing out a theory that makes sense to me, and it's one I'm willing to stand by.
Later.
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#29 ·
Sure... there’s something to it. Look, psychoanalytic dream theory has been poked and prodded by mainstream science for ages, and a lot of it actually holds water. But there's another side to the coin too. That's why dealing with dreams is such a headache—the theories don't play nice together, even when they all make sense individually. You have to flip your perspective on the whole problem if you ever want to find real answers.
Hannah Wells3 Hannah Wells3 Newcomer
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#30 ·
There are actually several different ways to achieve a lucid dream.
Personally, I rely on the "Wake Induction of Lucid dreams" technique—otherwise known as WILD—where the goal is to transition straight into a dream state without losing consciousness. It’s a pretty "Wild" way to go about it for a few reasons... though you should probably just look up the specific instructions online, because I really don't want to type the whole thing out again—I wrote it once before, lost my connection, and everything just vanished...
Generally speaking, lucid dreaming falls into two distinct categories: wake initiated lucid dreams (WILDs)
and dream initiated lucid dreams (DILDs).

So, WILDs encompass dreams reached via the WILD or VILD methods,
whereas DILDs include things like MILD, CAT, autosuggestion, or LILD...
Essentially, WILDs are those lucid dreams achieved directly from a waking state,
while DILDs are the ones where you gain awareness while already inside a dream.
Now, Wake Back to Bed—or WBTB—is a method where you head to sleep around 5:00 AM, wake yourself up, stay alert for about an hour, and then head right back under the covers. Doing this can boost your chances of a lucid dream by something like 60 percent... and it can be paired with just about any other technique you're using.

Those lucid dreams you guys are having? They're likely just accidental DILDs... assuming they are even true lucid dreams to begin with.
redpilot37 redpilot37 Active Member
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#31 ·
First off, props for starting such a great thread.👍I honestly didn't think I’d stumble upon a topic like this on this forum, but here we are.😛I have lucid dreams every now and then, though I never really knew anything about them or thought to ask anyone. Then I randomly found this thread and realized—wait, that's exactly what I've been experiencing. When I was little, my dreams were always about some witch chasing me down and tickling me, and there was absolutely no way to escape. It usually involved some ocean setting, too. That was years ago; I'm 26 now. Lately, the dreams have shifted. I start telling myself, "Okay, this is a dream." There's no sense of danger because I know I'm dreaming. I don't even feel embarrassed during certain erotic dreams; I just do whatever I want.😁I even know exactly what to do when I'm being chased by an enemy—where to hide to stay safe and all that. These lucids don't happen every single night, but they happen often enough. Why is this happening?🤷
Jacob Martinez21 Jacob Martinez21 Newcomer
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#32 ·
I’ve always had frequent Lucid dreams, though I never really thought much of them at the time. Sometimes, honestly, it felt a bit tedious because I felt pressured to invent a plot instead of just letting things unfold naturally. Then, after doing some reading here and there, it clicked: this is actually an incredible opportunity. We spend about a third of our lives asleep; if you can achieve lucidity during that time, you can essentially do anything you can imagine. It’s like being a wizard in your actual life, wouldn't you agree 🙂
That said, even when I'm aware it's a dream during a nightmare, I don't always manage to take control of the situation. I've read that nightmares are essentially our subconscious—or whatever term you prefer to use for it—trying to communicate something to us. My nightmares usually take place at my grandmother's house, which is actually a place where I always feel perfectly safe. In one instance, I'm dreaming I'm out in the backyard and I want to head inside, but suddenly this pale, blueish entity—like some sort of demon or sprite—is standing there screaming. My first instinct is fear; I turn around to run away. But then I tell myself, "This is your dream, you are in charge, and nothing can hurt you." I approach her bravely and ask, "What is it you want to tell me?" Instead of answering, she lunges toward my face and screams even louder, snapping me wide awake. I was so frustrated—instead of relaxing on a beach, I'm wrestling with demons 🤣
So, does anyone have any advice on how to achieve better dream control?
Linda Fisher4 Linda Fisher4 Newcomer
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#33 ·
I honestly think this site is top-tier. You don't even need to go out and buy books 😁—as long as you can handle English, you're set.
Every once in a while, I manage to have lucid dreams (and they are always incredible), usually because I spend my time obsessing over them right before I drift off.

The page above mentions how we cycle through more dreams throughout the night—both lucid and regular ones—but by the time morning rolls around, we typically only remember the very last one (if we remember anything at all, which used to happen to me constantly).
Walter Martinez32 Walter Martinez32 Newcomer
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#34 ·
Once someone actually becomes lucid within a dream, what happens next? Do you just sit there as a passive observer, watching the scene unfold without being able to touch anything, even though you know you're dreaming? Or can you actually move around freely, controlling your own actions? Could you potentially wander off to entirely different locations? =)
Jonathan Mitchell Jonathan Mitchell Member
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#35 ·
My absolute favorite dreams were always the ones where I’d just take off whenever I felt like it. I could always make it happen. Of course, once that first flight happened, I knew the next one would be a dream too, but I still had to convince myself I could do it if I just wanted it enough.

Whoooooooosh!
It’s been ages since I’ve flown...
I actually thought about that dream again recently.
Just enough to want to pop in and say hi while I'm reading through all your ideas on dream control.
hollowtinker18 hollowtinker18 Active Member
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#36 ·
Basically agree with everything here.
I had them too.
But the actual mechanism behind how they happen? Still a mystery to me...
Look, you just have to understand it—learn to relax your body and let your subconscious take over during sleep to shape the dream exactly how you want it.😁

Had one once. I was totally disoriented, then some drunk guy interrupted my flow, so I took a bathroom break. When I finally laid back down, I basically programmed and tuned the whole experience (grinning like an idiot through my wrinkles...) until sunrise. It was incredible... but honestly, it could've been even better.🙏
redpilot37 redpilot37 Active Member
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#37 ·
I’ve noticed that I dream about things that were vividly on my mind the day before. It actually happens quite often with me. To be honest, the mechanism behind how these dreams form isn't clear to me, and it doesn't seem to be to anyone else either. I tried searching for it online, but I couldn't find much besides what's already been discussed here—there really isn't much known about this specific phenomenon...
Betty Fisher2 Betty Fisher2 Newcomer
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#38 ·
This is such an excellent topic. I had heard whispers about these kinds of dreams before, but I never really paid attention to what they actually meant.
I can barely remember my own dreams, and even when I do, I usually check them against a dream dictionary, where they mostly turn out to be accurate.
My last dream involved losing a tooth, which supposedly signifies illness or a death in the family, 🙂
but I don't let myself get too worked up about it..
As for lucid dreaming, I have never experienced it.
Kenneth Sullivan3 Kenneth Sullivan3 Newcomer
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#39 ·
Is there anyone out there who might be able to lend me a hand in getting my lucid dreams back on track?
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#40 ·
Kenneth Sullivan3 said:Is there anyone out there who might be able to lend me a hand in getting my lucid dreams back on track?

I think you need to provide a bit more context here. 😁 For starters, how long were you experiencing them, and were they something you were actively trying to trigger or did they just happen spontaneously? When exactly did they stop, and have you already attempted any specific techniques to try and bring them back?

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