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How to master lucid dreaming?

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Jeffrey Ramos4 Jeffrey Ramos4 Active Member
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#41 ·
Man, I had another lucid dream this afternoon, but I’m getting stuck on the same loop. It’s frustrating. Usually, once I realize I'm dreaming, I can trick my brain—I'll just tell myself, "Hey, wake up, this isn't real," and boom, I'm wide awake. But lately, that trick isn't working anymore. I'll find myself back in the exact same scenario, just with tiny little tweaks to the details, and right when I think I've finally broken through... nothing. It’s like the dream is one step ahead of my own consciousness. Honestly, the lucidity isn't even the part that's messing with me. It's the fact that these dreams keep happening, and there's always some kind of monster looming right next to me. That's exactly what happened today, and now I'm actually dreading going to sleep tonight. 😁
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#42 ·
Jeffrey Ramos4 said:Man, I had another lucid dream this afternoon, but I’m getting stuck on the same loop. It’s frustrating. Usually, once I realize I'm dreaming, I can trick my brain—I'll just tell myself, "Hey, wake up, this isn't real," and boom, I'm wide awake. But lately, that trick isn't working anymore. I'll find myself back in the exact same scenario, just with tiny little tweaks to the details, and right when I think I've finally broken through... nothing. It’s like the dream is one step ahead of my own consciousness. Honestly, the lucidity isn't even the part that's messing with me. It's the fact that these dreams keep happening, and there's always some kind of monster looming right next to me. That's exactly what happened today, and now I'm actually dreading going to sleep tonight. 😁

Don't you ever have any pleasant lucid dreams? Because what you're describing sounds less like lucidity and more like false awakenings or perhaps even sleep paralysis. To me, a lucid dream is synonymous with a conscious, CONTROLLED dream—which implies a positive experience by default. Or did I fundamentally misunderstand your description?
And please, let's be rational here; what kind of person is actually afraid of going to sleep? 😛 😉
Roger Rodriguez Roger Rodriguez Active Member
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#43 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Don't you ever have any pleasant lucid dreams? Because what you're describing sounds less like lucidity and more like false awakenings or perhaps even sleep paralysis. To me, a lucid dream is synonymous with a conscious, CONTROLLED dream—which implies a positive experience by default. Or did I fundamentally misunderstand your description?
And please, let's be rational here; what kind of person is actually afraid of going to sleep? 😛 😉

Actually, what you just described is also a form of lucid dreaming. The distinction is that people on this forum often mention dreaming, becoming aware they are dreaming, and then waking up. True lucid dreaming refers to a state where you have complete control over the dream; many who can achieve this say they've used it to solve problems they couldn't tackle while awake.🤷
Every few months or so, I have one of those experiences where I'm in total control from start to finish, and it feels amazing—I can do whatever I want.😬
The thing is, I haven't figured out how to trigger it on purpose.
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#44 ·
So, I suppose I understood her description correctly after all. 😁
Personally, I experienced spontaneous lucid dreams occasionally even as a child, but I only began actively practicing them about two years ago. Nowadays, I have them on average three times a week—and if I actually have the time, even more often.
While there are plenty of books and articles out there on this subject, perhaps I could briefly outline what helped me increase the frequency of my lucid dreams in the beginning; maybe it might prove useful to some of you. Of course, this assumes you have a little goodwill and a bit of extra time to spare.

-Keeping a Dream Journal: It is absolutely worth it because it forces you to become aware of the very act of dreaming itself. In my early stages, this was particularly helpful, though I don't think I would have the patience for it now (these days, I only jot things down when I’ve had a lucid dream, and perhaps briefly what I did, though those experiences tend to stay quite vivid in my memory regardless 😁).

-"Fact checks": This is a rock-solid technique for those just entering the world of lucid dreaming. You are essentially increasing your awareness while awake, which indirectly carries over into your dreams. The idea is to perform reality checks multiple times throughout the day while you are conscious—especially when something feels strange or illogical. It is best to choose one specific method and stick to it. For instance: looking at a clock (if the numbers look garbled or if the time changes completely when you look back, you are dreaming), or counting your fingers (in a dream, you might find you have too many fingers, or they seem to blur together, or you simply can't finish counting them). Naturally, you will never conclude that you are dreaming while you are actually awake. The goal is to turn these actions into a habit. That way, during a normal dream—which is still governed by the subconscious—the moment a tiny seed of doubt arises regarding the reality of what you are experiencing, you will instinctively perform the same check. Once you do that and realize you are dreaming, the door to the lucid dream—governed by the conscious mind—swings wide open.

-Time of Day and Sleep Duration: The likelihood of experiencing a lucid dream "in the middle of the night" is extremely slim. They almost always occur right before dawn or during a nap in the afternoon. I have also noticed that they happen more frequently when I get more sleep—meaning, when I don't go to bed completely exhausted only to wake up after, say, seven hours and call it a day. You need to be somewhat lazy and sleep when you don't strictly "need" to, but rather for recreation (though, if only we always had the time for that 😬).

-The "Wake Up and Return to Bed" Technique: This involves waking yourself up a few hours before your actual alarm goes off, staying awake for about half an hour to an hour, and then heading back to sleep. In my experience, the probability of having a lucid dream using this method is enormous.

-WILD (Wake-Induced Lucid Dream) Technique: While the methods mentioned above became largely unnecessary as I increased my dream awareness, this technique is something else entirely. It isn't about "waking up inside a dream," but rather about letting your body fall asleep while your mind remains fully awake. There is a lot written about this, and it is certainly more difficult than the MILD technique, but in exchange, it opens the door to entirely new experiences. By this, I am primarily referring to "out-of-body experiences," which—despite the fact that the sensation differs significantly from standard lucid dreams—I still maintain are nothing more than another variation of a lucid dream; in other words, they are still an (incredible) product of our own minds.
Gary James88 Gary James88 Active Member
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#45 ·
So, some solid techniques for hitting lucid dreaming have already been mentioned. I went through a phase where they happened way more often, mostly because I was diving deep into books about them. Spontaneous ones were a bit rarer, but they’d pop up once in a while. They vary quite a bit, too—ranging from that fuzzy semi-awareness where you lose control of the dream instantly, all the way up to full consciousness.
Kenneth Sullivan3 Kenneth Sullivan3 Newcomer
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#46 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I think you need to provide a bit more context here. 😁 For starters, how long were you experiencing them, and were they something you were actively trying to trigger or did they just happen spontaneously? When exactly did they stop, and have you already attempted any specific techniques to try and bring them back?

A few years back, lucid dreaming was just a regular part of my life, almost routine; I’d experience it several times a week, and honestly, it was nothing short of breathtaking. But then everything shifted when a close family friend passed away in a tragic accident. Following her death, I began having lucid dreams every single night, and she was always there. I had this unsettling clarity—knowing even within the dream that she was gone, knowing I was merely sleeping, yet we would sit and talk about everything under the sun, from the nature of mortality to whatever lies beyond... it was all-encompassing. Eventually, after about a month, the weight of it became unbearable, too much for one person to carry. Then, one night, the dreams simply vanished, and they haven't returned since. Does anyone know how to bring that sensation back?
In the past, the realization that I was dreaming would just click into place, giving me total control over the narrative, but now... it's a complete disaster. It’s like Bubimirov's land out there; I have absolutely no idea what's happening when I close my eyes.
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#47 ·
Kenneth Sullivan3 said:A few years back, lucid dreaming was just a regular part of my life, almost routine; I’d experience it several times a week, and honestly, it was nothing short of breathtaking. But then everything shifted when a close family friend passed away in a tragic accident. Following her death, I began having lucid dreams every single night, and she was always there. I had this unsettling clarity—knowing even within the dream that she was gone, knowing I was merely sleeping, yet we would sit and talk about everything under the sun, from the nature of mortality to whatever lies beyond... it was all-encompassing. Eventually, after about a month, the weight of it became unbearable, too much for one person to carry. Then, one night, the dreams simply vanished, and they haven't returned since. Does anyone know how to bring that sensation back?
In the past, the realization that I was dreaming would just click into place, giving me total control over the narrative, but now... it's a complete disaster. It’s like Bubimirov's land out there; I have absolutely no idea what's happening when I close my eyes.

I have to admit, that is a fascinating way to utilize lucid dreaming. I imagine a hundred interesting stories could have emerged from those conversations. 😉
Perhaps you might consider trying some of the techniques I mentioned in my previous post? While it seems somewhat strange that your lucid dreams disappeared so abruptly overnight, if you truly desire to reclaim them, I don't see any reason why these methods wouldn't work for you. In fact, it might actually be easier now. Try, for instance, keeping a detailed dream journal to record your standard dreams and practicing those daily fact checks. If you don't see results after a while, try experimenting with the WBTB method. I am fairly certain you will find success. 🙂
Roger Rodriguez Roger Rodriguez Active Member
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#48 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:So, I suppose I understood her description correctly after all. 😁
Personally, I experienced spontaneous lucid dreams occasionally even as a child, but I only began actively practicing them about two years ago. Nowadays, I have them on average three times a week—and if I actually have the time, even more often.
While there are plenty of books and articles out there on this subject, perhaps I could briefly outline what helped me increase the frequency of my lucid dreams in the beginning; maybe it might prove useful to some of you. Of course, this assumes you have a little goodwill and a bit of extra time to spare.

-Keeping a Dream Journal: It is absolutely worth it because it forces you to become aware of the very act of dreaming itself. In my early stages, this was particularly helpful, though I don't think I would have the patience for it now (these days, I only jot things down when I’ve had a lucid dream, and perhaps briefly what I did, though those experiences tend to stay quite vivid in my memory regardless 😁).

-"Fact checks": This is a rock-solid technique for those just entering the world of lucid dreaming. You are essentially increasing your awareness while awake, which indirectly carries over into your dreams. The idea is to perform reality checks multiple times throughout the day while you are conscious—especially when something feels strange or illogical. It is best to choose one specific method and stick to it. For instance: looking at a clock (if the numbers look garbled or if the time changes completely when you look back, you are dreaming), or counting your fingers (in a dream, you might find you have too many fingers, or they seem to blur together, or you simply can't finish counting them). Naturally, you will never conclude that you are dreaming while you are actually awake. The goal is to turn these actions into a habit. That way, during a normal dream—which is still governed by the subconscious—the moment a tiny seed of doubt arises regarding the reality of what you are experiencing, you will instinctively perform the same check. Once you do that and realize you are dreaming, the door to the lucid dream—governed by the conscious mind—swings wide open.

-Time of Day and Sleep Duration: The likelihood of experiencing a lucid dream "in the middle of the night" is extremely slim. They almost always occur right before dawn or during a nap in the afternoon. I have also noticed that they happen more frequently when I get more sleep—meaning, when I don't go to bed completely exhausted only to wake up after, say, seven hours and call it a day. You need to be somewhat lazy and sleep when you don't strictly "need" to, but rather for recreation (though, if only we always had the time for that 😬).

-The "Wake Up and Return to Bed" Technique: This involves waking yourself up a few hours before your actual alarm goes off, staying awake for about half an hour to an hour, and then heading back to sleep. In my experience, the probability of having a lucid dream using this method is enormous.

-WILD (Wake-Induced Lucid Dream) Technique: While the methods mentioned above became largely unnecessary as I increased my dream awareness, this technique is something else entirely. It isn't about "waking up inside a dream," but rather about letting your body fall asleep while your mind remains fully awake. There is a lot written about this, and it is certainly more difficult than the MILD technique, but in exchange, it opens the door to entirely new experiences. By this, I am primarily referring to "out-of-body experiences," which—despite the fact that the sensation differs significantly from standard lucid dreams—I still maintain are nothing more than another variation of a lucid dream; in other words, they are still an (incredible) product of our own minds.

I actually remember my dreams from start to finish every single time, so I suppose I don't really need to keep a journal, right? It would take me half the day just to write everything down! 😬
These tips are fantastic—they don't require much effort or time, just a bit of consistency, I think.
I'm going to give it a shot 😉
Kenneth Sullivan3 Kenneth Sullivan3 Newcomer
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#49 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I have to admit, that is a fascinating way to utilize lucid dreaming. I imagine a hundred interesting stories could have emerged from those conversations. 😉
Perhaps you might consider trying some of the techniques I mentioned in my previous post? While it seems somewhat strange that your lucid dreams disappeared so abruptly overnight, if you truly desire to reclaim them, I don't see any reason why these methods wouldn't work for you. In fact, it might actually be easier now. Try, for instance, keeping a detailed dream journal to record your standard dreams and practicing those daily fact checks. If you don't see results after a while, try experimenting with the WBTB method. I am fairly certain you will find success. 🙂

I’ve already attempted to employ my old strategies, but they simply failed to yield results; I seem to have inadvertently blocked myself quite foolishly... 😢
I suppose I will give those fact checks a shot. Maybe they'll actually work.
Though, in the past, I never felt the need for such verification during lucid dreams—I would just know instantly, realizing, "Ah, this is a dream." 🙂

But regardless, it really is a magnificent pursuit, and I would recommend that anyone at least attempt to achieve lucidity. It is a truly sublime experience. 👍
Robin Reed5 Robin Reed5 Newcomer
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#50 ·
I realize this thread is a bit dated, but I don't see why that should stop us... 😁
I am only fourteen, yet I find myself deeply preoccupied with these kinds of inquiries—physics, chemistry, and the broader spectrum of scientific thought. To my mind, a dream feels like a very precisely structured sequence of thought, one that you only truly grasp once you have regained consciousness. For instance, if I set my alarm for 8:00 AM, I might experience a sound within my dream at 7:55 AM that transitions seamlessly into my actual waking moment... it is difficult to articulate, but the alarm begins to ring within the dream itself, and then I wake up just as the physical device starts its noise, implying that the timing was somehow synchronized within the dream state. Alternatively, perhaps a dream is merely something the mind constructs in the fleeting moments of waking, creating the illusion that we have been dreaming all night long...

I didn't want to clutter the forum by starting an entirely new thread for this, as I find the subject quite captivating and simply wanted to add my thoughts here... 😁
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#51 ·
Robin Reed5 said:I realize this thread is a bit dated, but I don't see why that should stop us... 😁
I am only fourteen, yet I find myself deeply preoccupied with these kinds of inquiries—physics, chemistry, and the broader spectrum of scientific thought. To my mind, a dream feels like a very precisely structured sequence of thought, one that you only truly grasp once you have regained consciousness. For instance, if I set my alarm for 8:00 AM, I might experience a sound within my dream at 7:55 AM that transitions seamlessly into my actual waking moment... it is difficult to articulate, but the alarm begins to ring within the dream itself, and then I wake up just as the physical device starts its noise, implying that the timing was somehow synchronized within the dream state. Alternatively, perhaps a dream is merely something the mind constructs in the fleeting moments of waking, creating the illusion that we have been dreaming all night long...

I didn't want to clutter the forum by starting an entirely new thread for this, as I find the subject quite captivating and simply wanted to add my thoughts here... 😁

Your post is a bit disorganized, so I might have missed your exact point, but I cannot agree with your bolded assertion—and I suspect anyone else with experience in lucid dreaming won't agree either. For example, I can tell you quite clearly that I had a lucid dream yesterday that lasted over two hours. How do you account for that? 🙂

EDIT: "For instance, if I set an alarm for 8:00 AM while dreaming, I’ll hear something start playing in the dream at 7:55 AM, which then transitions directly into me waking up; it's hard to explain, but the sound starts within the dream and then the actual alarm goes off exactly as it did in the dream, which implies the timing was precisely defined during sleep."

Could you elaborate on that part? I would be genuinely interested to understand the mechanics behind what you're describing. 😁
Robin Reed5 Robin Reed5 Newcomer
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#52 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Your post is a bit disorganized, so I might have missed your exact point, but I cannot agree with your bolded assertion—and I suspect anyone else with experience in lucid dreaming won't agree either. For example, I can tell you quite clearly that I had a lucid dream yesterday that lasted over two hours. How do you account for that? 🙂

EDIT: "For instance, if I set an alarm for 8:00 AM while dreaming, I’ll hear something start playing in the dream at 7:55 AM, which then transitions directly into me waking up; it's hard to explain, but the sound starts within the dream and then the actual alarm goes off exactly as it did in the dream, which implies the timing was precisely defined during sleep."

Could you elaborate on that part? I would be genuinely interested to understand the mechanics behind what you're describing. 😁

Well, I wasn't referring specifically to lucid dreams, but rather to dreaming in general... 😁

It is difficult to articulate properly, though... 😁

take this scenario, for instance. Before going to sleep, I set my alarm for 8:00 AM.
Then, I fall asleep and dream normally. During a dream, roughly five to ten minutes before 8:00, something begins to ring. It continues ringing until the moment I wake up. When I finally open my eyes, the physical alarm is still ringing, exactly as it was in the dream... how could the dream "know" that my alarm was scheduled for exactly 8:00, and that the sound should begin in the dream only to transition seamlessly into reality upon waking? I hope that clarifies things somewhat... 🙂
And, conversely, if I do not set an alarm, nothing rings within the dream...

I truly am at a loss as to how to explain this more clearly... 😁
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#53 ·
Robin Reed5 said:Well, I wasn't referring specifically to lucid dreams, but rather to dreaming in general... 😁

It is difficult to articulate properly, though... 😁

take this scenario, for instance. Before going to sleep, I set my alarm for 8:00 AM.
Then, I fall asleep and dream normally. During a dream, roughly five to ten minutes before 8:00, something begins to ring. It continues ringing until the moment I wake up. When I finally open my eyes, the physical alarm is still ringing, exactly as it was in the dream... how could the dream "know" that my alarm was scheduled for exactly 8:00, and that the sound should begin in the dream only to transition seamlessly into reality upon waking? I hope that clarifies things somewhat... 🙂
And, conversely, if I do not set an alarm, nothing rings within the dream...

I truly am at a loss as to how to explain this more clearly... 😁

I realize you are speaking in broad terms, but since lucid dreams are still categorized as dreams, they serve as perfectly valid counterarguments to your claims.😬
I think I follow your logic now. It isn't all that strange; I often find myself waking up a few minutes before my alarm goes off whenever I have to get up early. Your situation is particularly fascinating because it seems your "internal clock" possesses an audible component;😁 your subconscious clearly recognizes whether an alarm has been set or not, simulating the sound only when it anticipates the real thing.😉
There is, of course, the alternative possibility that the alarm actually begins to ring, and you—being quite lazy—simply stay asleep, causing the sound to bleed into your dream state. However, I will rule that out, assuming you check the clock the moment you wake up to see if the alarm just started or if it has been blaring for quite some time.
Robin Reed5 Robin Reed5 Newcomer
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#54 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I realize you are speaking in broad terms, but since lucid dreams are still categorized as dreams, they serve as perfectly valid counterarguments to your claims.😬
I think I follow your logic now. It isn't all that strange; I often find myself waking up a few minutes before my alarm goes off whenever I have to get up early. Your situation is particularly fascinating because it seems your "internal clock" possesses an audible component;😁 your subconscious clearly recognizes whether an alarm has been set or not, simulating the sound only when it anticipates the real thing.😉
There is, of course, the alternative possibility that the alarm actually begins to ring, and you—being quite lazy—simply stay asleep, causing the sound to bleed into your dream state. However, I will rule that out, assuming you check the clock the moment you wake up to see if the alarm just started or if it has been blaring for quite some time.

That is exactly the point; this psychological stuff is far too convincing... 😁
As for me, the moment that alarm hits, I am wide awake, though I suppose even a fly buzzing past my face could probably startle me at this point...
Roger Rodriguez Roger Rodriguez Active Member
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#55 ·
I had a lucid dream last night 👋 👋
It was such an incredible feeling... I was able to say exactly what I wanted to say, and I’d even plan out my next sentence and how I was going to react before the other person in the dream could even respond.
Anyway, I wasn't really trying any special techniques, other than making a conscious effort every morning when I woke up to reflect on the dream and try to hold onto every single detail.
Samuel James2 Samuel James2 Newcomer
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#56 ·
It’s honestly so unfair. I’ve had two lucid dreams now, and the second I realized what was happening, I snapped awake immediately. I actually tried to "fight" myself—like, I was literally wrestling with my own brain just to stay under—but man, it just wasn't working. I remember this one dream where I was hanging out by a pool, maybe somewhere like a fancy resort in Scottsdale, and suddenly it hits me: *wait, I'm dreaming.* Just as I was getting ready to really lean into it and have some fun, I felt this weird sensation, almost like I was being sucked up into some kind of portal above me that leads back to the real world... basically, I was just slowly drifting awake. I was trying with everything I had to just stay grounded and keep the dream going, but I couldn't hold on—the portal just pulled me in and I woke up.
Gerald Jones3 Gerald Jones3 Member
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#57 ·
I used to mess around with lucid dreaming, and I actually pulled it off once. I was back in high school when it suddenly clicked—I realized I was dreaming. I sent a quick text at 😬 thinking, "Alright, time to go hook up with this guy." But before things could even get interesting, I slipped right back into regular dreaming 😢

Another time, I almost had a lucid moment. In the middle of the dream, I stopped to wonder if this was real life or just my head playing tricks. But then I saw myself standing buck naked in the middle of a busy street with fish swimming through the air, so I figured, "Nah, this is definitely reality" 😬 and just kept dreaming.
Patrick Thomas29 Patrick Thomas29 Member
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#58 ·
I’ve been having these exact same dreams, and honestly, I’ve been searching for answers for a long time.
Why did this even start happening to me?
I sleep, I dream, and I’m fully aware that it’s just a dream while it's going on.
Like, last night I dreamed I broke my finger, and since I knew I was dreaming, it didn't even hurt.
Sometimes I can actually bend the dream to make things happen exactly how I want them to.
But lately, over the last few months, I keep having this one recurring dream—the same place over and over. I have no idea why it keeps coming back.
I get this feeling like I've actually been to this place before, even though I don't know where it is. Usually, I feel really good when I'm there.

Do you think dreams could be trying to send some kind of message or something?🙏
Christian Perez15 Christian Perez15 Newcomer
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#59 ·
When I first heard about lucid dreaming, I was actually pretty intimidated—though, I guess I was also incredibly excited to finally lie down and make it happen.
My first lucid dream went exactly like this (and I remember every bit of it):
Once I slipped into the lucid state, the sound hit me first. It was piano music. I saw another version of myself sitting at this massive grand piano, playing the theme from Requiem for a Dream. For a second, I just stood there watching and listening, until she suddenly turned toward me and reached out a hand, inviting me in. She kept playing the melody using only one hand. Instead of taking her hand, though—maybe out of pure instinct—I backed away a few steps, feeling genuinely spooked. Then, she just dissolved into dust, though the music continued to echo in the distance. I looked up, and red rain started falling. The rain stopped, and my double reappeared. The music had died down by then, which probably meant the song was over. She raised her hands, vanished again, and that was it. Next thing I knew, I was wide awake in bed at 5:00 AM.
velvettiger9 velvettiger9 Newcomer
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#60 ·
who even is Karina... that lucid dream thing?

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