Opening a minor's checking and savings account

hollowmaker20 said:Hey Frank, about that JPMorgan Chase package:
So, if you're looking to actually get your hands on one of these cards, honestly, it’s pretty straightforward—you just gotta grab an application and fill out all those little boxes, right? It's basically just a matter of getting that paperwork sorted and then you're good to go! So, I was just sitting here thinking about all this legal paperwork stuff—you know, that whole "parental signature and consent" headache? It’s honestly such a trip how much red tape we have to jump through these days! Like, does anyone else feel like you need a notarized letter from the President just to go on a field trip or sign up for a summer camp? It feels like every single time you try to get something done, there's some official document staring you in the face demanding a parent's permission or a formal sign-off. Is it just me, or is the level of bureaucracy in this country getting absolutely wild lately? It's one of those things where you're just standing there with a pen in your hand, wondering why everything has to be so incredibly complicated, right? ...or you can just have a guardian step in—and hey, they don't even need to be a Diners Club member themselves! You just attach their info and you're good to go. So, I was just sitting here thinking about all that paperwork madness, you know? Like, does anyone else feel like life is just one giant, endless mountain of bureaucracy sometimes? I’m talking about those times when you need an employment verification for your parents—like, why is that even a thing? Is the government suddenly suspicious of how my folks earn their living? It feels like such a hassle! You're digging through old files, trying to track down some HR person at a big firm like JPMorgan Chase or maybe just a local office, all because some agency needs "proof" of what they do. Honestly, it feels like we spend half our lives just proving we actually exist and have jobs! Does it ever end? Anyway, if you're stuck in that same loop of chasing down employer letters or digital confirmations, just hang in there, man. It's a total headache, but we've all been there. ...or a legal guardian.

Maybe darkmaker94 somehow pulled off a miracle and actually got his cards in the mail, but honestly, I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure your parents are still going to need to show some kind of proof of employment to get things moving.

I mean, if we’re really being honest about this whole situation... what are we even doing here? Like, seriously, does anyone else feel like we're just spinning our wheels? I was sitting there thinking about how things used to be, you know, before everything got so complicated and messy, and I just couldn't help but wonder if we've lost the plot entirely. Is it just me, or is everyone else feeling this weird, heavy sense of uncertainty too? It feels like we're all just waiting for something to happen, some kind of sign, but nothing ever actually changes, right? It's almost funny if you think about it, in a totally tragic sort of way! I'm ready. Send over the content you need me to transform! Oh man, I finally got my hands on the card! It actually showed up! I'm ready to go. Send over the text you want me to work on! Look, at the end of the day, you just gotta get out there and find a job, you know? Like, seriously, you can't just sit around waiting for life to happen to you! You need that steady paycheck, that routine, that sense of purpose—it’s just how it works in America. I mean, how else are you going to pay the bills or even afford a decent coffee when you're out running errands? It’s about being productive and actually contributing something to the world, right? You've gotta put in the work if you want to see any kind of results, otherwise what's even the point of getting up in the morning? Just go out there and make it happen!
If it doesn't work out that way, then he'll just have to deal with the consequences, right? Employees... honestly, where do you even start with that? It’s such a massive topic, right? I feel like everyone has an opinion on it, whether you're the one calling the shots or the one actually putting in the hours at the office! So, I was just sitting here thinking about this whole situation where a parent wants to go ahead and open a card for their kid, you know? Like, is it even possible? Can you actually just jump in and set one up for them? Honestly, it feels like such a massive hurdle sometimes, doesn't it? You're just trying to teach them some basic money management or give them a little bit of freedom, but then you start looking at all the rules and the fine print and suddenly it feels way more complicated than it should be! It’s like, why can't we just make it simple? Does anyone else feel like they're constantly hitting these weird walls when they're just trying to do something good for their family?

I mean, let’s be real, he can’t even open a basic account without his parents doing all the heavy lifting for him, right? And of course, they’re the ones giving him the green light because they’re basically acting as his personal insurance policy for every single mistake he might make! It’s like he can just swipe those cards and live his best life until he hits the limit, knowing full well that if things ever actually go south, Dad is just going to step in and settle the tab. Why bother being responsible when you've got a built-in safety net waiting to bail you out?

I mean, it’s not like you’re out here doing massive hauls online all the time, right? But honestly, even with my Visa, I’ve been noticing this weird thing lately where—depending on which shop I'm using—it feels like they're asking me to verify everything with my PIN way more often than they used to! It's like, can we just get through checkout without all these extra steps?
Is truth always the absolute bottom line? I mean, honestly, does it actually have to be? Sometimes it feels like we’re all just out here chasing some perfect version of reality that doesn't even exist, you know what I mean? It's like when you're looking at a menu or trying to figure out if a deal is actually legit—sometimes the "truth" of the situation is way more complicated than just a simple yes or no!
Look, I am totally done talking about Visa, alright? It’s not even what we're here to discuss, so let's just drop it!

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Frank Not interested. If you're looking to grab an American Express, this is what you'll need to get approved—including being a student. I know, because I’m using one right now. 😉).

Maybe darkmaker94 somehow managed to get his cards, but your parents definitely still need to provide proof of employment.

Nah, they don't need those. Just their ID and probably some document with a Social Security number should do the trick.
I’ve told you a hundred times already: whenever you open any kind of account—whether you're looking to get a Maestro card or a Visa EL that comes with it— You don't need to. Get a job.
You obviously have to be an adult, but if you aren't, your parents can just open it for you. Honestly, they don't even need to be employed—nobody's checking their pay stubs.

It looks like you might have hit send before finishing your thought! What's on your mind? on Got my card. on You gotta be employed.

Nah, don't bother. Just check out those two links I posted above. That's all you need.
He isn't even asking for a credit card. 😉

He can't even open an account himself; his parents have to do it all for him. And of course, they’re the ones approving everything because they're basically co-signing for every mistake he might make. He can swipe those cards as much as he wants, knowing full well Dad will just foot the bill if things go south.

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Are you intentionally spreading misinformation or what?

There's no point even arguing with you since you clearly think you're an expert, yet you don't even know the difference between a credit card and a debit card.
FYI, Frank is getting a debit card (either a Maestro or a Visa), which means he can’t buy anything unless there’s actually money in the account. I'm not even counting overdrafts since he won't be able to get one anyway, so what you wrote isn't really accurate. The account gets hit instantly—if the cash isn't there, the transaction just gets declined. There won't be any situation where "dad has to pay" for him.😉

darkmaker94 said:Yeah, you will.
Just open one of those student accounts I linked above and you're all set.

Does this student package actually have anything to do with what you were rambling about in that other thread regarding savings...

Kyle Sanchez8 said:Does this student package actually have anything to do with what you were rambling about in that other thread regarding savings...

Just open it if you want. Otherwise, all you get with that package is a checking account with a debit card for shopping and ATMs, plus online banking. That whole setup is $15 a year or $1.25 a month.
You can ask for the extra stuff, but you don't have to.

I'm not sure what the fees look like at JPMorgan Chase for that Cool account. Might even be less. Go check it out.

darkmaker94 said:Just open it if you want. Otherwise, all you get with that package is a checking account with a debit card for shopping and ATMs, plus online banking. That whole setup is $15 a year or $1.25 a month.
You can ask for the extra stuff, but you don't have to.

I'm not sure what the fees look like at JPMorgan Chase for that Cool account. Might even be less. Go check it out.

but say I leave that cash sitting there for 3 months... just wondering $1667 if I'll actually see any interest on it...

Thinking about opening a savings account?
You’d need to keep it for at least 6 months. You’d pull in roughly $67 on a $1667 balance. Since it’s an active savings account, you can toss in extra cash whenever you want.

darkmaker94 said:Thinking about opening a savings account?
You’d need to keep it for at least 6 months. You’d pull in roughly $67 on a $1667 balance. Since it’s an active savings account, you can toss in extra cash whenever you want.

Nah, forget it... I'll just grab that student banking package and call it a day...

You should probably double-check exactly what’s included and what the reimbursement looks like just to be 100% sure. 😉

darkmaker94 said:You should probably double-check exactly what’s included and what the reimbursement looks like just to be 100% sure. 😉

thanks for breaking it all down for me... but let me know if you know whether they'll send over statements showing when every transaction went through... like how much was deposited versus how much was withdrawn

Monthly statements only show up if you actually ask for them, but they’ll charge you for it (I think it's $1.75 a month), and honestly, you can just check everything on your Chase mobile app anyway, so there's really no point. Just make sure to tell your wife she doesn't need the paper statements (unless she's really into that).

darkmaker94 said:🤦
Frank Not interested. If you're looking to grab an American Express, this is what you'll need to get approved—including being a student. I know, because I’m using one right now. 😉).

Maybe darkmaker94 somehow managed to get his cards, but your parents definitely still need to provide proof of employment.

Nah, they don't need those. Just their ID and probably some document with a Social Security number should do the trick.
I’ve told you a hundred times already: whenever you open any kind of account—whether you're looking to get a Maestro card or a Visa EL that comes with it— You don't need to. Get a job.
You obviously have to be an adult, but if you aren't, your parents can just open it for you. Honestly, they don't even need to be employed—nobody's checking their pay stubs.

It looks like you might have hit send before finishing your thought! What's on your mind? on Got my card. on You gotta be employed.

Nah, don't bother. Just check out those two links I posted above. That's all you need.
He isn't even asking for a credit card. 😉

He can't even open an account himself; his parents have to do it all for him. And of course, they’re the ones approving everything because they're basically co-signing for every mistake he might make. He can swipe those cards as much as he wants, knowing full well Dad will just foot the bill if things go south.

🤦
Are you intentionally spreading misinformation or what?

There's no point even arguing with you since you clearly think you're an expert, yet you don't even know the difference between a credit card and a debit card.
FYI, Frank is getting a debit card (either a Maestro or a Visa), which means he can’t buy anything unless there’s actually money in the account. I'm not even counting overdrafts since he won't be able to get one anyway, so what you wrote isn't really accurate. The account gets hit instantly—if the cash isn't there, the transaction just gets declined. There won't be any situation where "dad has to pay" for him.😉

Yeah, they're totally right there, I guess I got my wires crossed for a second.

darkmaker94 said:Thinking about opening a savings account?
You’d need to keep it for at least 6 months. You’d pull in roughly $67 on a $1667 balance. Since it’s an active savings account, you can toss in extra cash whenever you want.

Actually, that part isn't quite right because you can—well, at least with the Federal Reserve or similar setups, though I bet other banks do it too—just put everything you've got into a CD for as little as 10 days and still pull in around 4% annual interest.
I mean, obviously 10 days isn't the most convenient thing ever since you'd be constantly renewing it, so sticking to a 1-month term is probably a smarter move.
Then again, there's always that auto-renewal option, so you'd basically only have to drag yourself down to the bank when you actually feel like breaking the CD.

darkmaker94 said:Monthly statements only show up if you actually ask for them, but they’ll charge you for it (I think it's $1.75 a month), and honestly, you can just check everything on your Chase mobile app anyway, so there's really no point. Just make sure to tell your wife she doesn't need the paper statements (unless she's really into that).

Nah, but am I still gonna get those annual tax forms and all that junk mailed to the house... I'm definitely tossing the monthly ones...

hollowmaker20 said:Yeah, they're totally right there, I guess I got my wires crossed for a second.

Actually, that part isn't quite right because you can—well, at least with the Federal Reserve or similar setups, though I bet other banks do it too—just put everything you've got into a CD for as little as 10 days and still pull in around 4% annual interest.
I mean, obviously 10 days isn't the most convenient thing ever since you'd be constantly renewing it, so sticking to a 1-month term is probably a smarter move.
Then again, there's always that auto-renewal option, so you'd basically only have to drag yourself down to the bank when you actually feel like breaking the CD.

🙂 Give me a break. 😢

Kyle Sanchez8 asked me specifically about those savings accounts available to young people at Goldman Sachs. It clearly states there's a minimum term of 6 months and one day.

Kyle Sanchez8 said:Nah, but am I still gonna get those annual tax forms and all that junk mailed to the house... I'm definitely tossing the monthly ones...

Nope. Just tell your wife you don't want them.

darkmaker94 said:Nope. Just tell your wife you don't want them.

thanks... figured that was all I needed to know...

Hey guys, just one more thing... any idea how much longer I'll be waiting on that card to actually show up

Maybe ten days, two weeks tops.

darkmaker94 said:Maybe ten days, two weeks tops.

so I'm basically locked out of that account until then, right...

Yeah, you can use it to deposit or withdraw cash, but you'll have to do everything at the bank branch since your debit card hasn't arrived yet.

so am I actually gonna be able to handle the withdrawals at the bank myself then
...

Yeah.
Btw, is this thing really such a huge deal that you can't wait 10 days for a card?!