How to get my car back? - Family drama

By God, if someone in this entire county decides to haul that car away without even needing the keys—and let's be honest, given the ownership situation, it wouldn't even be a crime!
What kind of nonsense is this?

I’m starting to think this usurper realizes exactly who she's dealing with!
If my memory serves me right from that other thread, isn't she the same one praying she doesn't get kicked out of the apartment her in-laws actually own?

Matthew King9 said:If that's the case, why does the law state they belong to the first tier😉?
And then list siblings and their spouses in the second?

Where on earth did you find that? Which specific law are you referencing?

The primary line of succession consists of:
The decedent's children, adopted children and their descendants, and the surviving spouse.

Matthew King9 said:If that's the case, why does the law state they belong to the first tier😉?
And then list siblings and their spouses in the second?

I guess it's gonna take you a little longer to wrap your head around how probate works😬 man... 😉

My mistake... I was looking up some real estate info... spoke too fast there...
In the US tax code (back in 2004), regarding inheritance and gifts, it states that ancestors are included in the first line of succession—basically, blood relatives in a direct line.

First in line are always the spouse and children.
The second tier consists of the surviving spouse if there are no kids, followed by the parents.
There are also third, fourth, and other tiers of succession.

I don't see why we're even debating this here. Nobody has died, so there's no probate or inheritance laws to apply, and nobody's even filed for divorce.
This is about a car. The father and son are too chicken to just take it back, so instead, the daughter-in-law swiped the keys. Now they're scrambling for a way to drive it because she’s been the one driving both of them around up until now.🙂

Lawrence Taylor10 said:First in line are always the spouse and children.
The second tier consists of the surviving spouse if there are no kids, followed by the parents.
There are also third, fourth, and other tiers of succession.

I don't see why we're even debating this here. Nobody has died, so there's no probate or inheritance laws to apply, and nobody's even filed for divorce.
This is about a car. The father and son are too chicken to just take it back, so instead, the daughter-in-law swiped the keys. Now they're scrambling for a way to drive it because she’s been the one driving both of them around up until now.🙂

Furthermore, they are well within their rights to exercise self-help. 😬

Lawrence Taylor10 said:First in line are always the spouse and children.
The second tier consists of the surviving spouse if there are no kids, followed by the parents.
There are also third, fourth, and other tiers of succession.

I don't see why we're even debating this here. Nobody has died, so there's no probate or inheritance laws to apply, and nobody's even filed for divorce.
This is about a car. The father and son are too chicken to just take it back, so instead, the daughter-in-law swiped the keys. Now they're scrambling for a way to drive it because she’s been the one driving both of them around up until now.🙂

The guy was just asking about how his dad could take ownership of the car with the least amount of financial headache, which led to questions about whether gifting it would be better given the tax implications—you know, weighing gifting versus inheritance—but if they actually want to transfer the title, then...
The whole thing boils down to getting rid of the liability; whether it's a gift or not, you'll still have to deal with that part, at least that's my take on it.
🙂

Sandra Parker3 said:The guy was just asking about how his dad could take ownership of the car with the least amount of financial headache, which led to questions about whether gifting it would be better given the tax implications—you know, weighing gifting versus inheritance—but if they actually want to transfer the title, then...
The whole thing boils down to getting rid of the liability; whether it's a gift or not, you'll still have to deal with that part, at least that's my take on it.
🙂

Let them do whatever they want. They have legal options available, so they should use them. They've received both legal advice and practical suggestions.
In my opinion, these two lack any backbone. They're being driven around by their wives, and now they're trying to lecture us on this forum.
The fact that they haven't even used the vehicle for six months because she won't hand over the keys tells you everything you need to know.
I'm certainly not towing it for them.👍