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It's not about the oil...

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Participants boldgardener93Linda Hughes88northernheron97Patrick Scott5Roger Hughesstormyscout11Roger Robinson682shadowjackal88nimbletinker3Richard Wilson4Walter Vaughn3Nancy Hall4Brian Moore67Alex Rivera7Nicole Flores3hiddengardener84goldenmason172Nicholas Gray5velvetmarlin24Peter Flores67swiftowl72Thomas Alvarez6
northernheron97 northernheron97 Member
13 messages
joined Mar 2007
#61 ·
hiddengardener84 said:This is the truth right here. Suicide bombers? Please. Most of those stories are just blatant lies cooked up by Zionist American propaganda. I was talking to a guy from Baghdad, and he told me straight up that at least 70% of these so-called "suicide bombers" have absolutely no clue their car is going to blow up in a few minutes. Who exactly is planting the dynamite in these cars and trucks? It’s the Americans. It’s simple: the US military keeps warehouses full of dynamite and all sorts of explosives everywhere they go. 😬 Alright, let's get back to talking about suicides.

I honestly can't tell if you're being a troll because you actually believe this nonsense, or if you're just trolling because you think we'll fall for this mindless, brainless propaganda.

By the way, it's really worth checking out this article from Der Spiegel regarding what's happening in Ramadi—which, just a few months ago, was considered one of the worst places in Iraq—until the local Sunni population started playing Al Qaeda off against the Americans:

"Exploded car bombs: zero. Detonated roadside bombs: zero. Rocket fire: zero. Grenade fire: zero. Shots from rifles and pistols: zero. Weapons caches discovered: dozens. Terrorists arrested: many." 👍

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...499154,00.html
goldenmason172 goldenmason172 Active Member
101 messages
joined Sep 2007
#62 ·
Nicholas Gray5 said:Honestly, you guys don't have a clue what's going on in your own backyard, let alone what's actually happening in the USA or Iraq. Most people just swallow whatever the news media feeds them without thinking twice. Don't be one of them; start asking yourself what’s actually plausible and what’s just pure fiction. If we're supposed to believe the American narrative that Bin Laden was behind everything, then where's the proof? Where are those tapes the CIA supposedly snatched from that hotel right across from the Pentagon? I mean, come on. What kind of pilot could pull off those impossible maneuvers and hit those buildings with that kind of surgical precision? And look at the damage—which building collapses all the way down to its foundation just from fire like the WTC did? None of them. Even the Empire State Building wasn't leveled by a smaller plane hitting it. On 9/11, two planes were spotted and recorded near the Pentagon—one identified as a C-180 and another unidentified passenger jet. What were those planes doing in the air when every single flight in the entire USA was supposed to be grounded? And why isn't there a single wing fragment or any significant piece of debris left on the Pentagon's facade before it took the hit? Same thing goes for United Airlines 93—why haven't they found any substantial wreckage? Until someone actually provides some real answers to these questions, I'll pass on believing this whole Bin Laden story.

Wonderful, yet another conspiracy theory—pure paranoia! 🤣
velvetmarlin24 velvetmarlin24 Member
37 messages
joined Apr 2007
#63 ·
boldgardener93 said:Bravo!!!
So you're basically advocating for murder and theft. It's honestly wild seeing the kinds of people hanging out on this forum.👎

Wait, so you'd actually prefer if the oil ended up in the Iranian hand? Have you considered how Iran might use that oil as leverage against the entire West? It's just like how Russia uses gas—whenever they disagree with an EU decision, they just turn off the tap. And it usually happens right in the middle of winter, leaving Europe to either cave in or freeze. Imagine if Iran could pull those kinds of stunts. I wouldn't want to live in a world like that.
Peter Flores67 Peter Flores67 Member
24 messages
joined Jul 2007
#64 ·
rambi;7776479 said:Zrinski 🙂

You still haven't quite grasped lesson number one: Americans are behind everything—and apparently, those Americans are being pulled by the strings of the Jews 😍... though not the good ones, just the evil Zionists
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🙂[/Q

It’s never too late, dear rambi.
Even you can try to make the world a little less messed up.
swiftowl72 swiftowl72 Active Member
104 messages
joined Jan 2008
#65 ·
velvetmarlin24 said:Wait, so you'd actually prefer if the oil ended up in the Iranian hand? Have you considered how Iran might use that oil as leverage against the entire West? It's just like how Russia uses gas—whenever they disagree with an EU decision, they just turn off the tap. And it usually happens right in the middle of winter, leaving Europe to either cave in or freeze. Imagine if Iran could pull those kinds of stunts. I wouldn't want to live in a world like that.


wow, sounds absolutely terrifying.🙄
i'd much rather live in a world where one country doesn't roll in, tear a nation apart, slaughter its people, and wreck their future—all just because of damn oil.
goldenmason172 goldenmason172 Active Member
101 messages
joined Sep 2007
#66 ·
swiftowl72 said:wow, sounds absolutely terrifying.🙄
i'd much rather live in a world where one country doesn't roll in, tear a nation apart, slaughter its people, and wreck their future—all just because of damn oil.

Well, I don't think it's quite as bleak as you're making it out to be! If you look at history, there are plenty of examples of nations that have actually thrived because they maintained strong ties with the United States. Countries like Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain essentially prove your point wrong. Furthermore, when the USA operates in that part of the world, they aren't just looking out for their own interests regarding oil security; they are also protecting their allies. To be perfectly honest, Iraq never really had a path toward prosperity before, but its true future is only just beginning to unfold!👍
Thomas Alvarez6 Thomas Alvarez6 Member
27 messages
joined Sep 2007
#67 ·
goldenmason172 said:Well, I don't think it's quite as bleak as you're making it out to be! If you look at history, there are plenty of examples of nations that have actually thrived because they maintained strong ties with the United States. Countries like Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain essentially prove your point wrong. Furthermore, when the USA operates in that part of the world, they aren't just looking out for their own interests regarding oil security; they are also protecting their allies. To be perfectly honest, Iraq never really had a path toward prosperity before, but its true future is only just beginning to unfold!👍

Oh, please. Iraq has always been stuck in the past. And even today? They're still living in a bygone era.
Thomas Alvarez6 Thomas Alvarez6 Member
27 messages
joined Sep 2007
#68 ·
goldenmason172 said:Well, I don't think it's quite as bleak as you're making it out to be! If you look at history, there are plenty of examples of nations that have actually thrived because they maintained strong ties with the United States. Countries like Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain essentially prove your point wrong. Furthermore, when the USA operates in that part of the world, they aren't just looking out for their own interests regarding oil security; they are also protecting their allies. To be perfectly honest, Iraq never really had a path toward prosperity before, but its true future is only just beginning to unfold!👍

Unlike civilized, functional nations that cooperate with the USA and already have a clear path forward, Iraq is still waiting for its future to arrive.
goldenmason172 goldenmason172 Active Member
101 messages
joined Sep 2007
#69 ·
Thomas Alvarez6 said:Oh, please. Iraq has always been stuck in the past. And even today? They're still living in a bygone era.

What I meant was that under the leadership of Saddam Hussein, that nation simply never stood a chance at having a future. However, I believe their path toward a better tomorrow is actually much closer now than it ever was before. If it weren't for the constant threat of terrorists, Iraq could easily be one of the most advanced nations in the Middle East. You only need to look just across the border at what their neighbors have achieved through sound, intelligent policymaking.
Thomas Alvarez6 Thomas Alvarez6 Member
27 messages
joined Sep 2007
#70 ·
goldenmason172 said:What I meant was that under the leadership of Saddam Hussein, that nation simply never stood a chance at having a future. However, I believe their path toward a better tomorrow is actually much closer now than it ever was before. If it weren't for the constant threat of terrorists, Iraq could easily be one of the most advanced nations in the Middle East. You only need to look just across the border at what their neighbors have achieved through sound, intelligent policymaking.

The reality is that Iran is quite an advanced nation today.
goldenmason172 goldenmason172 Active Member
101 messages
joined Sep 2007
#71 ·
Thomas Alvarez6 said:The reality is that Iran is quite an advanced nation today.

You might have noticed I wasn't actually referring to the Iranian Republic at all. They’ve been playing out their own specific political agenda for decades now, which is exactly why they find themselves in such a desperate situation. My point was focused on the countries mentioned above; specifically, Iraq has every bit of potential to reach that level of development. Their primary hurdles right now are terrorism and deep national divisions. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure if those three different faiths possess enough strength to coexist peacefully within the same borders.

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