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Another critic of Putin's regime killed?

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Participants Brian Moore67hollowpanther5Aaron Bailey15wearycobra74boldgardener93Eric Evanswiredridge7Matthew Nelson48Melissa Price6rapidmason7northernheron97Bryan Brown4Emily Taylor3Linda Hughes88Justin Kim5dustyharbor18Richard Wilson4Patrick Scott5vividheron2
Justin Kim5 Justin Kim5 Newcomer
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#21 ·
northernheron97 said:The whole situation is a complete mess, and what’s truly frustrating is that when you talk to Russians, about 90% of them support Putin simply because they want Russia to appear "strong" and able to stand up to the USA—they couldn't care less about democracy. In their entire thousand-year history, they've probably only experienced true democracy for maybe two or three years total, appearing and disappearing just as quickly.
The Russians themselves are just unfortunate; they don't seem to realize the kind of country they're living in, though as individuals, they are wonderful people. I actually find myself liking Russians more than Westerners sometimes.

aha, great... what a stellar observation... from everything I know and hear, Putin absolutely crushed it in the last election, so what's that? Is that fascism now?
dustyharbor18 dustyharbor18 Member
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#22 ·
Honestly, it’s entirely possible those journalist killings were orchestrated by someone who doesn't want a strong Russia (perhaps in league with the EU... hmm, hmmm!!??)—just to weaken and take down Putin??? Here’s a little snippet: all hail Fox News for airing Biden and Graham's views on Putin... the regime change crowd in the US knows no bounds. Why stop at Iraq and Saddam? Why not go after Russia and Putin next, lol... Is there any oil or gas in Russia, by any chance? Maybe Cheney and the oil tycoons want in on that too! I find it hard to listen to these American politicians whine about the lack of democracy in Russia. They might want to worry more about the lack of democracy in the USA and, by extension, everywhere the USA decides to intervene militarily.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#23 ·
That’s your idea of Russian democracy for you—fourteen journalists dead and every single one of Putin's critics gone 👎
Patrick Scott5 Patrick Scott5 Member
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#24 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:That’s your idea of Russian democracy for you—fourteen journalists dead and every single one of Putin's critics gone 👎

Do you honestly believe we don't deal with our opponents and dissidents in the West using similar tactics?
vividheron2 vividheron2 Member
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#25 ·
Patrick Scott5 said:Do you honestly believe we don't deal with our opponents and dissidents in the West using similar tactics?

Come on, give us an actual example then...
Patrick Scott5 Patrick Scott5 Member
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#26 ·
vividheron2 said:Come on, give us an actual example then...

I can think of a few instances that never actually made the headlines.
Stuff like this happens in both America and Russia; it’s just that when the Russians do it, they tend to be a bit more indiscreet about their methods.
vividheron2 vividheron2 Member
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#27 ·
Patrick Scott5 said:I can think of a few instances that never actually made the headlines.
Stuff like this happens in both America and Russia; it’s just that when the Russians do it, they tend to be a bit more indiscreet about their methods.

I think I get it now... That bloody Communist system, which is directly or indirectly responsible for the suffering and deaths of 50 million people—not to mention leaving hundreds of millions more mentally stunted and stuck with a permanent inferiority complex—is somehow morally equivalent to the system in America. You know, the country that saved the World from Nazism and Communism, but is now working toward some kind of equalization with Islamo-fascism...
Patrick Scott5 Patrick Scott5 Member
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#28 ·
vividheron2 said:I think I get it now... That bloody Communist system, which is directly or indirectly responsible for the suffering and deaths of 50 million people—not to mention leaving hundreds of millions more mentally stunted and stuck with a permanent inferiority complex—is somehow morally equivalent to the system in America. You know, the country that saved the World from Nazism and Communism, but is now working toward some kind of equalization with Islamo-fascism...

Aha... so what you're saying is that America is doing us a massive favor by waging wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe Iran next?
vividheron2 vividheron2 Member
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#29 ·
Patrick Scott5 said:Aha... so what you're saying is that America is doing us a massive favor by waging wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe Iran next?

What I'm trying to say, my dear Patrick... well, unfortunately, I don't think you can grasp it. Anyway... goodbye.
Patrick Scott5 Patrick Scott5 Member
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#30 ·
vividheron2 said:What I'm trying to say, my dear Patrick... well, unfortunately, I don't think you can grasp it. Anyway... goodbye.

Oh, absolutely. 🙂

Anyway, cheers. 😉
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#31 ·
Patrick Scott5 said:Do you honestly believe we don't deal with our opponents and dissidents in the West using similar tactics?

Yeah, just look at those BBC journalists Blair chewed up and spat out, or the reporters who just vanished from CNN, or all those critics of Merkel, Chirac, or Prodi—where'd their bones go? I mean, seriously. 🤣
Patrick Scott5 Patrick Scott5 Member
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#32 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Yeah, just look at those BBC journalists Blair chewed up and spat out, or the reporters who just vanished from CNN, or all those critics of Merkel, Chirac, or Prodi—where'd their bones go? I mean, seriously. 🤣

Journalists aren't the only ones who call out a regime 😉
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#33 ·
Patrick Scott5 said:Journalists aren't the only ones who call out a regime 😉

Come on, man! Give me the rest... don't leave me hanging here.
Brian Moore67 Brian Moore67 Active MemberOP
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#34 ·
So, get this—the cops went totally ham on an opposition rally near Times Square on Saturday, cracking heads and hauling away over 100 folks, even snagging former chess legend Garry Kasparov in the mix.

Kasparov—who’s basically leading The Other Russia coalition that organized The Dissenters ' March—was actually feeling pretty pumped about it all! He called the whole thing a win on Sunday and predicted that IT would Pav The way for larger crowds in The futur.

"Honestly, the biggest win is just that the march actually went down," Kasparov told someone over the phone. "It shows that people are finally getting fired up about social activism. Folks are starting to find their backbone."

They slapped him with a $40 fine for "slandering" the government, but he was back out on Saturday night. And hey, he didn't admit to doing anything wrong!

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/storie...04/16/001.html

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