US airstrikes hit Islamic Union militia positions in Somalia

Chloe Palmer2 said:Milsim thinks they're just barking like dogs, 🙂 claiming it's a defining trait of all terrorists 🙂

Oh, absolutely, and it’s especially true for the absolute worst of the bunch—the US empire itself. Honestly, if you look at it, they act like the biggest and most dangerous terrorist organization out there.

They’ve become so incredibly pathetic in their desperation that it’s almost sad to watch.

Linda Reed3 said:Genocide through religion? Wow, you are a sick idiot, and there isn’t a shadow of a doubt about that. You just conveniently forgot who slaughtered thousands of Muslims, Jews, and everyone else when Christian armies stormed Jerusalem. You clearly forgot who led at least seven crusades against Muslim lands. You forgot that Hitler rose from within Christian ranks, not Muslim ones. You forgot that Muslims didn't invent communism—non-Muslims did—that same communism that snuffed out millions of innocent lives. You forgot that both World Wars were fought under Christian flags, resulting in tens of millions of innocent civilians dying. You forgot who created and carried out the Inquisition. And you definitely forgot who is currently attacking entire countries under the guise of fighting terrorists, all while trying to seize territory and turn people into slaves. Actually, I know you didn't forget any of this; you're just a complete moron.

You are clearly a complete idiot with nothing but empty space between your ears!

First off, let’s get one thing straight: Jerusalem is NOT a Muslim city. Jerusalem was already a holy city long before Islam even existed! (Man, those were the good old days...) And those lands weren't Muslim either, not until they were conquered by force and forcibly converted through an "offer you can't refuse." Honestly, any sane person—someone who isn't driven by deep-seated complexes or a violent streak—isn't going to find their purpose or meaning in Islam. Islam hasn't been around for 5,000 years; it's only about 1,500 years old. Muhammad basically just cooked up a whole new way to track time to manufacture arguments that simply don't exist anywhere else. By creating this new timeline—which even Muslim theologians won't deny is a total fabrication—he gave himself the fake historical "weight" he needed to justify his claims. It's all a setup.

Islam has basically set a trap for itself. Its own violent, incredibly stupid rhetoric is going to be its ultimate undoing. It’s like they decided to throw out every existing faith and civilization just because some guy named Muhammad—who was really just a Christian dropout because he couldn't handle following actual Christian rules back then—decided he could just "tweak" things by inventing a whole new religion. He needed followers, obviously, and you can't get those through logic or reason. You need force. Because let's face it, there isn't a shred of sense to be found in Islam.

Look, he just took the path of least resistance. He basically catered to his own sexual appetites—just like any other guy—because women weren't exactly fighting back, and men could exert control over them whenever they wanted. It was an easy way to mold religious doctrine to fit what he wanted. As the son of a Christian priest, he really should have been living by some strict rules. But instead, he lived too large, got a little carried away with the good life, and decided to "rebrand" the faith. He twisted things so that men could indulge in whatever they felt like, all while keeping women under their thumb through fear. And get this: in a religion as "tolerant and democratic" as Islam, men aren't just allowed to act like that—it's actually encouraged. So much for "tolerance and equality" in Islam.

These idiots are using terrorism as a tool because they’re delusional enough to think they can force the entire world to follow Islam. Newsflash: that is never going to happen—not now, and not ever. Just like every other violent regime and radical ideology in history, Islam is eventually going to collapse under the sheer weight of its own senseless violence. Let’s be real for a second: right now, there isn't a single other religion on this planet that uses violence as a primary way to spread its message. That’s exactly where the weakness lies. They refuse to evolve. They’re stuck clinging to the fairy tales of Muhammad, living like it's the early Middle Ages, and they have zero interest in leaving that era behind. Honestly, it actually works in our favor because it keeps them from ever becoming a modern, developed society. Look at the Islamic countries today—they are easily some of the most backward places on the planet. And honestly? Good. Let them stay that way.

What happens when you kill off a Sunni or a Shiite (or vice versa)? It’s a 2-0 win for us—a total victory for common sense. Look, every religion out there has its share of weird sects and tiny sub-groups, I get that. But nobody else—and I mean nobody—is busy slaughtering each other just because they have this empty, delusional conviction that they’re the only ones holding the truth. It’s a curse, plain and simple. It's right there in front of our eyes, and honestly, let it keep going.

Look, maybe communism—which stands as one of the two biggest evils to ever walk this earth (alongside, you guessed it...)—was responsible for killing millions, but Islam is still out there killing people today...

Linda Reed3 said:You simply forgot who slaughtered thousands of Muslims, Jews, and everyone else when the Crusader armies invaded Jerusalem. You've conveniently ignored who launched at least seven Crusades against Muslim lands and who orchestrated the Inquisition.

Look...
You are cherry-picking dark chapters from ancient Church history just to justify similar atrocities being committed today in the name of Islam...
It’s a bit absurd, isn't it?
It’s absurd because your average Christian is well aware of those historical stains and feels nothing but shame regarding the Church's past actions...
Meanwhile, the "average" Muslim—and I am referring specifically to those in the regions currently targeted by the USA and Israel—celebrates whenever a suicide bomber kills non-believers or towers collapse...
They are operating at the exact same level as the medieval Christians who committed or sanctioned various evils following calls from the Pope "in the name of Christ." Essentially, they respond to similar calls from religious leaders "in the name of Allah" by committing and endorsing atrocities against innocent civilians...
Religious fanaticism in its purest form.

vividheron2 said:I can't exactly call you a total moron, because unlike you, if I—as an American from Canada posting on an American forum—used that kind of language, I’d be banned instantly by either the Muslims or some self-loathing Americans.

History shows us exactly how Islamic influence expanded; those "Muslim lands" were carved out by the sword and the machete. For decades, followers of this "religion of peace" have slaughtered their way from Jerusalem to Bech, desecrating Christian churches and forcing local, weak-willed populations to convert to Islam. (Much like your own ancestors who converted). If genocidal types tried to claim we Christians turned the Dome of the Rock into a church, just as you all turned the Hagia Sophia in Constantinople into a filthy mosque, they’d be beaten with chains until their heads were covered in bruises.

From my perspective, the Crusaders were the liberators of the Holy Land, much like Americans are today. The fact that both Shiites and Sunnis "negotiate" with bombs, just like Hamas and Fatah, is simply part of that same bloody tradition.

It's not your fault your brain was washed by others, though you certainly helped salt the wound. 🙂

Go check what your own historians say about this and leave it at that. 😁

Henry Lopez15 said:Look...
You're digging up old dirt from church history just to justify the same kind of garbage being done today in the name of Islam...
Kind of stupid, don't you think?
It's dumb because your "average" Christian already knows about all that stuff you listed and feels ashamed of those historical sins...
Meanwhile, the "average" Muslim—and I mean the ones in those countries where Americans are dropping bombs—actually celebrates when some suicide bomber takes out more non-believers or when towers fall...
They're basically at the exact same level as those ancient Christians who committed atrocities "in the name of Christ" because the Pope told them to. Basically, they're doing the same thing today, following various religious leaders' calls to commit violence against innocent civilians "in the name of Allah."
Religious fanaticism is hitting its peak...

🙏 🙏 🙏 She pretty much hit the nail on the head.

So, are we actually talking about Somalia here and how those guys basically got what was coming to them?

How do you even feel about typing out these massive, mile-long posts that don't even have anything to do with the topic?

"First off, Jerusalem isn't a Muslim city. It was already a holy site long before Islam even existed! (Those were the good old days...!)"

I’d give you a full rebuttal if I thought it would actually do any good, but I'm not going to write an essay responding to your entire post—or anyone else's for that matter. I'll just address this one specific point quickly:

The reality is that Islam has been present since the time of Adam, peace be upon him. It didn't just suddenly appear when Muhammad began his mission; that’s something you really should grasp if you’ve spent even a little time studying Islamic faith or the tenets of your own religion. Every prophet was a Muslim. After Moses passed away, a sect emerged that we know today as Jews, and following the ascension of Jesus, a subset of those followers became known as Christians. The scholars alongside those prophets were true believers who held the same core convictions as Muslims do today, even if their specific legal codes (Sharia) differed from ours.

Furthermore, you really ought to realize that Judaism and Christianity didn't exist as separate entities prior to Moses and Jesus. Figures like Jacob, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jonah, Noah, Lot, and Solomon all preceded them—may they all rest in peace and salvation.

😁

Henry Lopez15 said:Look...
You’re digging up ancient history from the Church just to try and justify the same kind of atrocities being committed today in the name of Islam...
Isn't that a bit silly?
It feels misguided because your average Christian is fully aware of those historical stains and feels nothing but shame over the Church's past actions...
Meanwhile, your "average" Muslim—and I'm talking about folks in those regions where Americans are constantly clashing with walls—actually celebrates when a suicide bomber takes out non-believers or when towers come crashing down...
They are essentially living at the exact same level as those medieval Christians who, acting on papal orders "in the name of Christ," carried out or condoned all sorts of atrocities. In other words, they respond to modern religious leaders calling for violence "in the name of Allah" by committing the same horrors against innocent civilians...
Religious fanaticism is in overdrive...

You couldn't be more wrong. If someone decides to sacrifice themselves in an operation against an occupying force, that's their choice, and it's not my business nor yours. As long as they target an occupying army, fine. But once they turn on a crowd of civilians, that's a whole different story. That doesn't happen nearly as much anymore, except for what used to occur more frequently in Palestine. From what I can see, even that has dwindled... And even if it hasn't, why should I care? It's not my problem when it's just individuals. With the history of Christianity, both then and now, it wasn't just isolated people; it was entire masses and states backing terrorism against others.

Look, Islam has been around since Adam, and it didn't just pop into existence when Muhammad showed up. You really ought to know that if you've spent even a tiny amount of time studying Islamic faith or any religion for that matter.

Exactly. This idea that Islam has existed since Adam is a belief, not an established fact.
It's just one group's conviction, and nobody else is obligated to buy into it.

All the prophets were Muslims. After Moses passed away, a sect formed that we call Jews today, and after Jesus was ascended, a Jewish splinter group called Christians emerged. The scholars alongside those prophets were believers who held the same faith as Muslims do now, though their specific laws—their Sharia—were different from what we have today.

Every prophet (if we're using that term) was a monotheist, not a "Muslim" in the way the word is used today.
Being a monotheist and being a Muslim aren't the same thing.
Calling Judaism and Christianity "sects" is honestly just ridiculous.

Also, you should realize that neither Judaism nor Christianity existed before Moses and Jesus. People like Jacob, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jonah, Noah, Lot, Solomon, and the rest—they all came before Moses and Jesus. May peace and salvation be upon them.

Solomon before Moses???
Islam didn't exist before Muhammad either. Everyone listed who lived before Moses and Jesus could maybe be called monotheists, but they definitely weren't Muslims.

Linda Reed3 said:You are completely mistaken. If someone decides to sacrifice themselves in an operation against an occupying force, that is their business; there is no need for you or me to worry about it. As long as they target the occupying army, it's one thing, but when they target crowds of civilians, that is a different story entirely. That happens more often than people care to admit, though it seemed more frequent in Palestine back in the day. Now, from what I can see, that isn't really happening anymore... And even if it were, why should I care? Those are just individuals. In contrast, with Christians, both historically and today, we aren't talking about individuals, but masses and entire states supporting terrorism against others.

What "occupying army"? We are talking about civilians here...
And how could I not care when there isn't a single corner of the globe where there isn't a risk of some maniac detonating a bomb in the name of Allah...
But according to you, this isn't as common as it used to be, right?
Hmm, perhaps the Walls and the Americans are actually doing a stellar job at suppressing terrorism—by which I mean killing innocent civilians. 😉 ...
But let's move past individual actors, look at states, and get to the core of the matter...
You were writing about the inherent genocide within Christianity as a religion...
Yet, whenever any civilian dies on any side, the Church expresses outrage and calls for tolerance.
Meanwhile, on the other side, various "messengers of God" promise hordes of virgins in paradise to those who manage to slaughter as many unbelievers as possible (read: innocent civilians).
Religious leaders manipulate the naive, and suddenly there are no longer any things that could be considered a sin if they are committed in the name of Allah.
A few sentences in a mosque and half the city is out in the streets...
And please, don't bother telling me that this doesn't apply to most of the Muslim world...
We aren't talking about my neighbor Almir, who would be heartbroken if he were called to jihad; we are talking about those poor souls in remote backwaters who are manipulated beyond all reason...
Unfortunately, there are far too many of them.

Chairman Mao said:A sibling and a pet died. Now they’re expecting photos of wrapped-up grandmas in hijabs. It’s the same old story whenever some jihadists get taken out—suddenly it's all heartbreaking news and pictures of people in headscarves.

👍 Nice one, man.

Muslims have this massive delusion where they think they can act out, commit acts of terror, or go burning flags, and people are just going to respond with kindness.

It’s like the whole argument goes: "Just think about why things are happening, and once you figure out 😁, then maybe be nice and watch your step so we stop acting out."

But here's the reality: they completely underestimate Western democracy and our moral boundaries. They’re headed for a massive reality check, and it’s going to hurt way more than they ever imagined.

Emily Taylor3 said:Muslims have this massive misconception that they can commit terrible acts and still expect a warm reception—that terrorism and flag burning will somehow win them hearts and minds.

It’s like saying, "Just think about why this is happening, and once you figure out 😁, then maybe you'll behave and watch your step so we stop acting out."

The reality is they completely underestimate Western democracy and our supposed moral constraints. They’re headed for a massive reality check, much worse than they can possibly imagine.

That's where you're wrong. They aren't actually looking for sympathy from the world. To them, the rest of us are just "infidels" who need to be wiped out or forcibly converted. They're taught that "Islam will rule the world," and that’s exactly what happens in those mosques. Why do you think almost every suicide bomber is recruited straight from those mosques and Islamic centers?

It is a deeply disturbed mindset.

frozentiger6 said:Wrong. They aren't looking for any kind of global popularity. To them, the rest of the world is just "infidels" that need to be wiped out or overhauled. They're taught from the pulpit that "Islam will rule the world," and you have to wonder why every suicide bomber seems to get recruited straight from those mosques and Islamic centers.

It’s a twisted way of thinking, plain and simple.

Look, I don't care what they whisper to each other in private. 😬

What I'm seeing is right here—take the Muslims on this forum, for instance. They're always jumping to defend terrorists, claiming it's all the fault of Americans, or blaming Bush and Blair for the bombings in London😬 and so on.

And even if they play it smart and stay invisible, making them nearly impossible to track as terrorists...😬

They forget one thing: the average person in the West doesn't give a damn about who specifically pulled the trigger or whether the terrorists are hiding in plain sight within a supportive crowd. People's patience is wearing paper-thin.

And then there are our resident jihadists on this forum—honestly, they’re just a joke. They’ve managed to brainwash themselves into believing a version of reality that fits their specific delusions, and now they’re trying to "argue" their way out of it. Of course, whenever I push back, all they can muster is some tired, baseless insult.

It’s just truth without logic and facts that don't even exist. To them, bin Laden is simultaneously a hero because he took out a bunch of Americans, and an undercover spy manufactured by the CIA and Hollywood.
In their eyes, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is also both a legendary freedom fighter for Iraq and a complete fabrication invented by CNN.

If they can successfully trick themselves into believing the nonsense they churn out, why wouldn't they assume they could convince everyone else that their twisted version of reality is the only one that matters? 😵

frozentiger6 said:If they’re capable of gaslighting themselves into believing the absolute nonsense spinning around in their own heads, why wouldn't they assume they could pull the same stunt on everyone else? 😵

Yeah, when you lay it out like that, I guess there's a certain twisted logic to it. 😁

Vanessa said:...so that's how they indoctrinate them in those mosques; why do you think all those suicide bombers are recruited from mosques and Islamic centers...

I’ll take your word for it, since you’re speaking from direct experience—after all, you spent years living right there in Canada, acting like a true Canadian local...

Hmm! 🤔

So, what exactly are you doing here in Christian America? You must have some sort of underlying mission, right? I highly doubt you're just some casual tourist. You seem to be going out of your way to emphasize this intense hatred toward Muslims, almost as if you're trying to mask something else entirely. 🤔

A person doesn't just flip their entire worldview upside down by 180 degrees overnight without cause. There has to be a reason behind it.

Prolaznik_ said:"First off, Jerusalem IS NOT a Muslim city because
Look, Islam has been around since Adam, and it didn't just suddenly pop into existence when Muhammad showed up. You really ought to know that if you’ve spent even five minutes actually studying Islamic faith or whatever religion you claim to follow. All the prophets were Muslims. It wasn't until after Moses died that this whole 'Jewish' sect split off, and then after Jesus was taken up, Christians emerged as another sect. But back then, the true believers followed those prophets and believed the exact same things we do today—even if their specific laws were different from what we have now.

Also, you need to realize that Judaism and Christianity didn't exist before Moses or Jesus. People like Jacob, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jonah, Noah, Lot, Solomon, and so on—they all came before Moses and Jesus. May peace and salvation be upon them.

😁

Like, I shouldn't even have to know any of this, because I don't waste my life stressing over lies.

The reality is, Islam only goes back 1,500 years to Muhammad. He basically manufactured a much longer timeline himself just to give his movement some sense of tradition and legitimacy.

What's hilarious is that you won't find this "ancient history" written anywhere else. Not in any mainstream historical texts, not in the records of any other civilization—only in Muslim history books. And who's going to believe it besides Muslims?

All the Old Testament prophets belong to Jewish and Christian tradition. And let's get one thing straight: Jesus wasn't some messenger subordinate to Muhammad. Muhammad wasn't even born until 500 years later! No credible historical encyclopedia mentions Islam existing before the 6th century, let alone before the Common Era (which matters to the rest of the world, obviously—not that anyone cares except for Muslims... Use your brain!)

You can try to spin it however you want, but you can't change actual history. And history is telling a completely different story.

You're just a devout Muslim who can't see past the cover of the Quran. That mindset won't get you very far. It's just sad that you can't wrap your head around it.

mellowraven22 said:Wait, are we actually talking about Somalia and how things went south over there?

Honestly, how do you guys even have the energy to write these massive essays that don't even fit the topic?

So, here's my two cents—and yeah, I know this might surprise you—but there was a little incident involving a C-130.
🙂

Alex Rivera7 said:Just my two cents here—and I know this might catch you off guard—but I heard there was one C-130 out there.
🙂

Honestly, I'm stunned. 🙂

I haven't seen a single report mentioning more than one AC-130 being involved. You got some inside info or something?

There were some helicopters buzzing around the area too, though nobody's sure if they're US or Ethiopian. Plus, Hornet jets from the Eisenhower are running heavy recon missions over Somalia right now.

Anyway, whatever, at least one less extremist out there.