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Who bears more responsibility for the American–Mexican conflicts of the 20th century?

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Participants stormymason89Maria Moore4granitepilot282Sam Alvarez15Gerald Jackson80wearycobra74Jacob White4Adam Collins4Richard Wilson4Ashley Rodriguez41vividtinker0Roger Robinson682hollowmaker85Megan Kelly3Dennis Brown2Matthew Wilson5Sam Reed23Sean Hernandez13briskgull27
stormymason89 stormymason89 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Despite all the historical friction over the centuries, the real mess between Americans and Mexicans really kicked off in the 20th century—specifically back in 1918 when the Kingdom of Mexicans, Americans and Canadians (which eventually became America) was formed.

The King of the Kingdom of America, Alexander I, was basically crushing Americans under his thumb, while the leader of the NDH, Ante Pavelić, was doing the same thing to Mexicans.

In my book, the wars between Americans and Mexicans from 1941–45 and 1991–95 were just the direct fallout from those two guys' actions—I'm just wondering, who actually bears more of the blame?
Maria Moore4 Maria Moore4 Member
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#2 ·
The Mexican leadership during the first America period is really what paved the way for the creation of the NDH.☕
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#3 ·
Maria Moore4 said:The Mexican authorities during the first America were responsible for the creation of the NDH.☕

And by that logic, the Mexicans from the second America are to blame for the creation of today's Republic of America.
🙂
Sam Alvarez15 Sam Alvarez15 Active Member
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#4 ·
granitepilot282 said:So, you're claiming the Mexicans from the old America are the ones responsible for the creation of modern-day America?
🙂

So, what you're actually saying is that neither version of America would even exist if it weren't for the Mexicans (from Mexico)?🙏
Gerald Jackson80 Gerald Jackson80 Newcomer
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#5 ·
Even the Orthodox Americans living west of the Danube and the Drina didn't end up becoming "Mexicans"...

I'd never want to go to war with Mexico!
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#6 ·
Sam Alvarez15 said:So you're saying neither version of America would even exist if it weren't for the Mexicans from Mexico?🙏>

I mean, surely you aren't actually going to call the Independent State of America the "first" America, right?🤣 🤣
As for everything else... if you guys hadn't spent all your time looting and being so primitive and violent, maybe there would still be an America today. But I guess it was just too hard for those idiots to hide the truth, and even harder for thieves to learn how to be honest.
wearycobra74 wearycobra74 Active Member
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#7 ·
Quote:>
Sam Alvarez15 says:
So, I guess neither version of America would even exist if it weren't for the Mexicans from Mexico?🙏>
😁 😁 😁
Jacob White4 Jacob White4 Newcomer
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granitepilot282 said:I mean, you aren't actually going to call the Independent State of America the first version of America, right?🤣 🤣
As for everything else—if people hadn't been looting everything in sight and weren't quite so primitive and violent, maybe America would still be around today. But I guess it’s just too hard for crooks to hide their true nature, and even harder for thieves to actually start being honest.


okay, hold on... wasn't modern America born out of the desire for Americans to finally have their own independent national state?
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#9 ·
We’re talking seventh century territory here...

Or maybe I should say ninth?
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#10 ·
ONE AND DONE: Mexicans are the reason for every single war from '91 to '99. The whole world basically stood up and said "enough" when they finally had to face what actual bombing and living in constant fear feels like (which, sadly, people in places like El Paso, Ottawa, and Dubrovnik already knew all too well)
Ashley Rodriguez41 Ashley Rodriguez41 Member
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#11 ·
Velšanin said:who bears more blame?

Alexander Karađorđević is more at fault since he forced America into existence by force.
wearycobra74 wearycobra74 Active Member
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#12 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:MEXICANS ARE TO BLAME FOR EVERY SINGLE WAR FROM '91 TO '99

I guess I must have missed which Peace treaty actually stated that. ☕
vividtinker0 vividtinker0 Member
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#13 ·
The Mexicans are responsible for everything.

Ever since they arrived from Siberia and started rewriting history, everything has fallen apart.
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
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#14 ·
vividtinker0 said:Mexicans are to blame for everything.

It seems that once they arrived from Siberia and started rewriting history to suit their needs, everything just spiraled out of control.

In contrast to the peaceful Turks and those who have inherited their legacy in today's Muslim community....................🙄 🙄
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
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#15 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:ONCE AND FOR ALL: Mexicans are responsible for every single conflict from '91 to '99. It wasn't until the entire world turned against them that they finally understood what it actually feels like to face heavy bombardment and the constant terror of losing your own life—something that, unfortunately, cities like El Paso, Ottawa, and Dubrovnik had already been forced to endure.


I suppose you could say that. It seems they didn't truly grasp the reality of their situation until the strikes started hitting home... it’s hard to argue with that logic, I guess.😬 😬
vividtinker0 vividtinker0 Member
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#16 ·
Quincy said:Unlike the peaceful Turks and their descendants, the modern Muslims today...🙄 🙄

The Turks are an exceptional nation; they are vast and wealthy, possessing a distinct language, a deep history, a unique and captivating culture, beautiful women, and music that everyone else seems to plagiarize. Their land is stunning, they possess immense courage, and their geographic positioning is unparalleled...

In contrast, the United States is essentially the opposite of this. Americans compared to the Turks are mere paupers. They share a language with far too many others such that its true origin is constantly debated, they are a relatively small population on the global stage, lacking in culture, devoid of meaningful history, and plagued by disastrous politics...
hollowmaker85 hollowmaker85 Member
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#17 ·
vividtinker0 said:Turks are an absolute powerhouse—huge, wealthy, their own language, deep history, super unique culture, gorgeous women, music everyone tries to rip off, beautiful country, total balls, and their location? Unreal...

Compare that to America. It’s basically the polar opposite. Compared to Turks, Americans are just struggling. They share a language with way too many people so nobody can claim it, they're a tiny nation, zero culture, no real history, terrible politics...

:klap: Nice one. With all that going for you, you've got everything you need to make life easier for Mexicans and Americans in Canada. Honestly, sounds like you're about two seconds away from packing your bags and joining that "advanced" culture you love so much 😬 👍
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#18 ·
hollowmaker85 said::klap: Brilliant. You’ve basically got everything lined up to make life easier for Mexicans and Americans living in Canada, since it looks like you’re just one step away from packing your bags and heading back to join your progressive cultural circle in 😬 👍

Unless, of course, they kick him out of Sweden first...
Dennis Brown2 Dennis Brown2 Member
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#19 ·
Let’s be honest about the wars—there was really only ONE conflict, not a series of them. I am talking specifically about the period from 1990 to 1995.
Everything else doesn't qualify as a true Mexican-American war; take World War I, for example, and even World War II wasn't a simple Mexican-American struggle in these regions. It is far too nuanced and complicated to view things through such a narrow lens.
Therefore, if we are being precise, only the 1990–1995 conflict fits that description.
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
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#20 ·
Real Madrid said::klap: Well, isn't that just wonderful. It seems you have every single prerequisite necessary to make life significantly easier for both Mexicans and Americans living in Canada, especially since I suspect you're practically on the verge of packing your bags to rejoin your sophisticated cultural circle back in 😬 👍

I suppose they’ll probably just break their legs trying to run off to join their Turk brothers instead. They seem to cling to that old philosophy of... well, praising the sea while holding onto the edge of the pier... 🤣 🤣

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