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Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#341 ·
briskgull27 - I wanted to weigh in on that post of yours, the one where you mentioned inheriting that "wild streak" from your grandmother...

But look at it this way:

* You mentioned struggling with depression back when you were a teenager—honestly, so many kids go through that phase...

* Then you said you had to rely on medication—well, after losing your mother, who wouldn't?
To be perfectly blunt, I can't even imagine how anyone could stay afloat without some kind of help during a time like that.

* And now, as you get older—it all seems more than reasonable to me.
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#342 ·
I totally agree with you.
Even my cousin has a grandmother who was admitted to psychiatric facilities at least 15 times.
And yet, all her kids turned out perfectly fine—active, healthy, and completely normal—despite being born to someone struggling with mental health issues.
It’s wild, isn't it?

Could someone from the US, Canada, or anywhere else in the States reach out? I'm looking for anyone who has experience with the F-22, as I seem to have a mixed type.
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#343 ·
What exactly is an F-22? What does that term actually mean, and is it just a rebranded 'diagnosis'
compared to what you were originally told?
Maria Hughes84 Maria Hughes84 Newcomer
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#344 ·
If we’re calling schizophrenia "creative," then I suppose high intelligence is just pure gold.😁
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#345 ·
Brenda Cook4 said:What exactly is an F-22? What does that mean, and is it just a different "diagnosis"
than what you were originally given?

Well, my diagnosis was updated back in 2000, right before I started seeing specialists in Los Angeles in 2001.
It’s essentially a combination of schizoaffective disorder and bipolar.
That’s why I’m on Lithium—have you heard of it?
I actually have a follow-up appointment at the clinic in Los Angeles tomorrow; I really can't keep managing this on my own.🙂 🙂 🙂
The doctor on call should be able to help.
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#346 ·
Schizophrenia (F20)

Schizotypal Disorder (F21)

Delusional Disorder (F22)

Brief Psychotic Disorder (F23)

Shared Psychotic Disorder (F24)

Schizoaffective Disorders (F25)

Other Specified Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders (F28)

Unspecified Psychotic Disorders (F29)
Source: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia,_schizotypal,_and_delusional_disorders_(F20-F29)"

Categories: Schizophrenia
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#347 ·
Background: Schizoaffective disorder is a complex condition characterized by a blend of symptoms: specifically, elements of a thought disorder—like delusions or hallucinations—alongside components of a mood disorder, such as mania or depression. Because these two different clinical spectrums overlap, managing treatment for these individuals can be quite a unique challenge.

Schizoaffective disorder
is identified based on the criteria found in the DSM-5 or through ICD-10 coding. Essentially, it sits at the intersection of schizophrenia (marked by distorted thinking and hallucinations) and various mood disorders.

Clinicians typically make this diagnosis when a patient presents features of both conditions but doesn't perfectly fit the strict definitions for schizophrenia or a mood disorder on its own. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to tell if someone is dealing with two distinct issues, a combination of the two, or a completely separate condition altogether. Since the diagnosis essentially bridges schizophrenia and mood disorders, pinpointing it requires precision. To reach an accurate diagnosis, a patient needs to meet the requirements for mania or major depressive disorder while simultaneously meeting the criteria for schizophrenia. Additionally, they must experience at least two weeks of psychosis that occurs independently of any mood episodes.

In men, schizoaffective disorder is sometimes associated with antisocial personality traits. The age of onset is later for women than for men, and the exact etiology and epidemiology is unclear because of limited research in this area. Generally speaking, the outlook for those with schizoaffective disorder is considered more positive than for those diagnosed solely with schizophrenia. Treatment usually involves a combination of medication and talk therapy.

Pathophysiology: Although the exact etiology of schizoaffective disorder is unknown, researchers suggest it might involve imbalances in brain neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin. Other theories point toward potential factors like prenatal viral exposure, nutritional deficiencies, or complications during birth.

Frequency:

* In the US: It is estimated that the lifetime prevalence of schizoaffective disorder in the US is under 1%, likely falling between 0.5% and 0.8%. These numbers remain estimates since comprehensive large-scale studies are still needed.

* Internationally: Determining global prevalence is difficult because diagnostic standards have shifted recently, but estimates generally fall between 2% and 2.9%.

Mortality / Morbidity: When looking at the long-term outlook, patients with schizoaffective disorder often fall somewhere in the middle: the prognosis is typically better than for those with schizophrenia, but not quite as favorable as for those with a primary mood disorder.

* For instance, those with the bipolar subtype often see a prognosis similar to people with bipolar I, while those with the depressive subtype may face an outlook closer to those with schizophrenia. As you can imagine, predicting an individual outcome is quite complex.

* The suicide rate is estimated at approximately 10%, and this risk is predominantly seen in women.

* Certain factors can signal a more difficult path, such as a history of issues prior to the onset, a gradual beginning of symptoms, a lack of clear triggers, prominent psychotic or "negative" symptoms, an early start to the disorder, a continuous course of illness, or a family history of schizophrenia.

Race: There are no notable differences in diagnosis based on race.

Sex: This condition is more frequently diagnosed in women than in men. While men may show more antisocial tendencies, women often experience a later onset. Furthermore, the age of onset is later for women than for men, and the exact etiology and epidemiology is unclear because of limited research in this area.

Age: Generally speaking, younger individuals diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder often fall into the bipolar subtype, while those who are older are more likely to be categorized under the depressive subtype.
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#348 ·
briskgull27 said:My diagnosis changed back in 2000, right before I moved to Kansas City in 2001.
So, it's a mix of schizoaffective and bipolar.
That's why I'm on Lithium—ever heard of it?
I've got a follow-up at the clinic in Kansas City tomorrow; I just can't deal with this anymore.🙂 🙂 🙂
The doctor is on call.

Oh, I've definitely heard of Lithium—but could you walk me through how it actually works?

Please don't be so down on yourself... life is tough, but you're such an open, smart, and soulful person, you know!😘 You really have the strength to push through all of this!
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#349 ·
Brenda Cook4 said:Cula, I’ve heard about lithium—but could you explain how it actually works?

Don't let it get you down, please... life is what it is, and you are such an open, smart, and soulful person, you know!😘 You have the strength to push through all of this!

I totally get what you mean: imagine a sine wave swinging above and below the x-axis on a graph—that represents my mood and the affective side, while the x-axis itself represents the schizophrenia.
Makes perfect sense! 😍 😁 😁
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#350 ·
Alright—when you're riding that high—what does it actually feel like?....Can you even channel all that intense energy into anything useful?

And just for clarity, what’s the actual purpose of taking lithium when things get that way?🙂
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#351 ·
How lithium works: we’re trying to approach the x-axis, but only in terms of height.
If you look at 45 degrees from the x-axis, you reach that same elevation (within a two-dimensional system)
which is the target achieved by using lithium carbonate—much like what you'd see produced by a major US pharmaceutical company like Pfizer.
It’s quite difficult to connect this third axis to a healthy dimension.
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#352 ·
Brenda Cook4 said:So, when you're riding that high—when you're feeling really elevated—what does that actually feel like for you? Is it possible to channel all that intense energy into something productive?

So, what exactly is the role of lithium in those kinds of situations?🙂

I mean, sure, I could always just lean into it, but suppressing it isn't exactly the answer either—honestly, I don't think anyone would agree that's a healthy way to go about things. Anyway, I'm heading down now.
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#353 ·
Alright then—let’s dive in... how are you feeling right at this very moment?

Is there a bit of a tug-of-war going on inside? Like, a mix of feelings that might actually be contradicting each other?

What would bring you a sense of satisfaction or peace right now?

Is there anything specific weighing on you at this second—something acting as a distraction or a disturbance? Can you pin down exactly what that is, if something like that is present?

****** honestly, who can really say where that "healthy" baseline is supposed to be or even define what it looks like... I personally think it's all about finding a center point, just viewed through a slightly different lens....
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#354 ·
Ovak: first, I need some Aspirin for these cramps, and then I’d love to get behind the wheel. I almost took out my husband and mother-in-law, so now I'm on probation. My dream? To pack up my computer and drive at least 6,000 miles away somewhere warm for the winter. Since that's not happening, I wish I could at least find some way to escape online, but even that feels out of reach. Out of all the things I could do, 😁 😁 I’d probably head over to the AMC to catch Kill Bill. But since that's off the table too, I guess I'll just settle for a cup of coffee.
It would honestly be such a blessing to just be handed a house—you know, without having to wait for someone to pass away so I can sell it and fund my physical rehab. That kind of support would really lift my spirits. 🙂
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#355 ·
Brenda Cook4 said:Alright then—so... how are you feeling right at this moment?

Are you experiencing a mix of different emotions, perhaps even ones that seem to contradict each other?

What would make you feel more satisfied or content right now?

Is there anything specific bothering you at this very moment? If so, are you able to pinpoint exactly what it is?

****** who actually knows where that "healthy" balance is supposed to be? I truly believe it's all about finding a center through a slightly different perspective...

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...r/untitled.jpg

SO WE'RE AIMING FOR X MARKED HERE

My main disturbance is honestly just the limitations of being civilized. For instance, I can't just pass gas whenever I want, and I can't tell my old man he's acting like a total jerk because, well, it's not socially acceptable. I can't even laugh out loud on a crowded bus because of some random thought, since that would look weird. And I certainly can't kill myself over it—there's too much taboo surrounding that—but hey, the Aspirin has finally kicked in, so things should start looking up soon.🎉 ☕
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#356 ·
briskgull27 said:Alright, first things first—let's talk about Aspirin. I don't quite follow—could you clarify what you mean by that? I want to make sure I'm on the right page before I jump in!Then there's the whole driving situation. I’d love to get back behind the wheel, but after that incident where I nearly took out my husband and mother-in-law, I'm stuck with a restricted license. Honestly, I just want to get away—somewhere far, like at least ten states away from here. 000 miles I’m trying to stay away from the computer during the winter months. Since that isn't really an option, I've been thinking about ways to stay connected online without being glued to a screen. It's a bit of a balancing act—trying to find something meaningful to dive into without letting the digital world take over my whole life. There are a few possibilities I'm weighing right now. 😁 😁 I was actually planning on heading over to AMC to catch Kill Bill, but since that’s not even an option right now, I think I'll just settle for grabbing a coffee instead.
I’d love to just land a house out of thin air—you know, without having to wait for someone to pass away first. If I could just sell a place like that, I’d dump every cent into intensive physical rehab. It would honestly do wonders for my spirit. 🙂

Listen, sisters, I don't know about you, but I feel like nothing is quite clear right now.😁 🙏
Grab a cup of coffee and just start typing... write whatever's on your mind.

And this whole thing about working from home—I mean, come on, who wouldn't want that? Honestly, if it were up to me, I’d jump at the chance to boost my productivity right away!😍
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#357 ·
Ugh, I am seriously losing my mind dealing with all this family drama right now.
The absolute worst part is when my period hits and suddenly my libido goes through the roof.
I actually ended up finishing once in a broken-down car while vacationing on Maui...
If I actually had the cash, I would smash this stupid computer—just like that jerk Kosti does—or toss my phone out the window.🤣
Instead, I’d buy a brand new one that responds to voice commands rather than a keyboard.
I’d even set up a home system like the Voyager computer to handle everything for me.
Then, I could just spend an entire year hanging out in the holodeck.
After that, I’d finally step outside, much like how Tom Green acted in Freddy, and then just head right back to the holodeck.
I guess it shows how much I'm struggling when I'd honestly rather avoid the real world entirely.
😘
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#358 ·
briskgull27 said:Honestly, dealing with family right now is enough to drive me absolutely insane.
The worst part is when my period hits and my libido just goes through the roof.
I actually ended up finishing once in a broken-down car while on vacation in Maui....
And if I had the cash, I’d smash this stupid computer—just like that jerk Kosti did to his phone—into pieces.🤣
Then I'd buy a brand new one that responds to voice commands instead of a keyboard.
In fact, I’d set up a home system like the Voyager computer to take care of everything for me.
I could just spend a whole year living inside the holodeck.
Then, I'd step outside like Tom Green in Freddy getting fingered.
And then immediately retreat back into the holodeck.
You can see I'm truly losing it when I start preferring virtual reality over the real world.😘

You aren't crazy, so please don't tell yourself that....
Seriously, who actually enjoys visiting relatives, especially when you're on your period?

Just tell them that it doesn't work for you right now.😁

On the whole, I think you just need to force yourself—learn how to, or whatever you want to call it—to be HAPPILY INDIFFERENT toward anyone you feel is threatening your peace... because the more you push back against them, the more they're going to obsess over you and your "situation."

Though, honestly, maybe even with that intense urge to be blunt or talk about "taboo" topics, you're just trying to pull their attention back to yourself.... perhaps because you feel that they are somehow (regardless of the degree) responsible for what you're going through... for all this "injustice." But regardless, you're better off without that attention if they're only treating you like a "case study." That's why I say "happy indifference."...
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
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#359 ·
Yeah, you really nailed that drawing... so red means active, blue means passive, and dark represents the medication?

Are you working in Paint or Photoshop? Either way, you’ve got a real knack for this.🙂
briskgull27 briskgull27 RegularOP
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#360 ·
blue bird said:And yeah, you drew that really well... red stands for active and blue for passive, and the dark color—is that medicine?

Are you using Paint or Photoshop? You're getting pretty good at this!🙂

Well, okay, a friend told me I just have a "guy brain" and that red represents health
and everything else is just as described.🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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