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Schizophrenia - General Discussion

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Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#5921 ·
I’m doing alright for the most part right now. I’ve been dealing with some fragmented sleep and a few mood swings here and there, but that’s about the extent of it. Life has felt relatively stable since I decided to leave university behind; I wouldn't say it was a mistake to move on, but honestly, the whole thing was just way too high-stress for my liking. Happy Easter, everyone! 🙂
I’m currently looking for something local to work in back in my hometown in the Midwest, because if I can't land anything by the end of April, I guess I'll be heading back to Chicago. 🙂
George Cook George Cook Active Member
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joined May 2014
#5922 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:I’m doing alright for the most part right now. I’ve been dealing with some fragmented sleep and a few mood swings here and there, but that’s about the extent of it. Life has felt relatively stable since I decided to leave university behind; I wouldn't say it was a mistake to move on, but honestly, the whole thing was just way too high-stress for my liking. Happy Easter, everyone! 🙂
I’m currently looking for something local to work in back in my hometown in the Midwest, because if I can't land anything by the end of April, I guess I'll be heading back to Chicago. 🙂

Moving back to Chicago seems like a solid plan; there's more to do there during your downtime.
Focus on the job hunt and your hobbies. An ending is just the preface to a new chapter. Plenty of successful people never finished their degrees; what matters is forward momentum—reading, staying informed, solving puzzles, and keeping the mind occupied. You're resilient, and your contributions here have helped many others. Hang in there. 🙂
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#5923 ·
George Cook said:Moving back to Chicago seems like a solid plan; there's more to do there during your downtime.
Focus on the job hunt and your hobbies. An ending is just the preface to a new chapter. Plenty of successful people never finished their degrees; what matters is forward momentum—reading, staying informed, solving puzzles, and keeping the mind occupied. You're resilient, and your contributions here have helped many others. Hang in there. 🙂

Part of me really wants to stay put because I don't have to worry about rent or groceries right now, and I also want to be around to help my mom and grandma, who rely on me quite a bit. But if I can't find work here in my hometown, I won't really have a choice, and I'll just have to settle for visiting everyone every other weekend.
goldeneagle2 goldeneagle2 Active Member
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joined Aug 2005
#5924 ·
Has anyone here actually messed around with changing their diet, and if so, what was the fallout like:



Rebecca Rivera3 Rebecca Rivera3 Active Member
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joined Mar 2017
#5925 ·
Of course. For a while, I tried drinking nothing but fresh juices and cutting out all processed junk. While I did feel better overall, the symptoms themselves didn't actually disappear. It’s just like being caught in a massive storm—it's raining, pouring, and thundering all at once. You can try to open an umbrella, but there's a pretty high chance the wind is just going to rip it right out of your hands.
Benjamin Hall6 Benjamin Hall6 Newcomer
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#5926 ·
What are your thoughts on this? Personally, I find several points quite compelling, which is why I’m actually considering starting CBT soon...
http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.co...ot-an-illness/
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#5927 ·
Benjamin Hall6 said:What are your thoughts on this? Personally, I find several points quite compelling, which is why I’m actually considering starting CBT soon...
http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.co...ot-an-illness/

Hmm... my English isn't exactly great, so I didn't dive too deep into reading because I probably wouldn't have grasped half of it anyway, but I do know that CBT can definitely be helpful for schizophrenia. It’s especially useful for managing depression and those other negative symptoms, though, of course, you'd still need to be on medication alongside it.
Jose Ward4 Jose Ward4 Regular
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#5928 ·
Wait, what exactly is CBT? I’m sorry, I’m really not joking—I genuinely have no clue what that stands for.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#5929 ·
Jose Ward4 said:Wait, what exactly is CBT? I’m sorry, I’m really not joking—I genuinely have no clue what that stands for.

It's Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
Jose Ward4 Jose Ward4 Regular
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#5930 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:It's Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.

But wait, what does that actually mean? Like, is that why people go see a therapist?
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#5931 ·
Jose Ward4 said:But wait, what does that actually mean? Like, is that why people go see a therapist?

Well, you could say that’s one of the two primary paths in psychotherapy. The other is psychoanalysis. Ideally, psychoanalysis is supposed to fully resolve a psychological issue—assuming you don't completely lose it first, which is a struggle I know all too well. Cognitive-behavioral therapy, on the other hand, is more about helping you accept the situation and learning how to manage your life alongside it.
Rebecca Rivera3 Rebecca Rivera3 Active Member
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#5932 ·
I read that link Benjamin Hall6 shared, and honestly, it’s pretty brutal. It basically argues that schizophrenia isn't even a disease—just a way we blame ourselves for our own inability to "choose" to be sick because we don't know any other way to function. It's a heavy read.
Benjamin Hall6 Benjamin Hall6 Newcomer
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#5933 ·
I actually view this link as quite optimistic. If a disorder isn't strictly hardwired biologically, but is instead driven by flawed cognitive patterns and behavioral habits, then there is a genuine possibility for significant improvement...
Rebecca Rivera3 Rebecca Rivera3 Active Member
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joined Mar 2017
#5934 ·
I don't have much to add... I read the article, and frankly, it veers quite far from actual science. It’s clearly been written by a psychologist rather than a psychiatrist. Too often, psychologists who lean solely on the Freudian school or similar frameworks neglect other vital aspects of a person—ignoring our biological reality in favor of just the social side. That link is a prime example of that oversight.
Changing one's mindset and behavioral patterns for the better can certainly liberate a person from various functional issues. However, how far a shift in thinking can go, and what can truly be achieved through it, will always be a subject of debate—much like the question of how much diet can actually cure disease. Ultimately, though, very few people have ever fully recovered simply by changing their diet, despite how many have tried.
Jose Ward4 Jose Ward4 Regular
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#5935 ·
Rebecca Rivera3 said:I don't have much to add... I read the article, and frankly, it veers quite far from actual science. It’s clearly been written by a psychologist rather than a psychiatrist. Too often, psychologists who lean solely on the Freudian school or similar frameworks neglect other vital aspects of a person—ignoring our biological reality in favor of just the social side. That link is a prime example of that oversight.
Changing one's mindset and behavioral patterns for the better can certainly liberate a person from various functional issues. However, how far a shift in thinking can go, and what can truly be achieved through it, will always be a subject of debate—much like the question of how much diet can actually cure disease. Ultimately, though, very few people have ever fully recovered simply by changing their diet, despite how many have tried.

Actually, there are plenty who have healed through nutrition. There's tons of evidence on YouTube where people share their own stories.
Rebecca Rivera3 Rebecca Rivera3 Active Member
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#5936 ·
Hah... I guess there's a bit of everything under the sun with nearly 5 billion people out there.
Go ahead then, Jose Ward4, you give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#5937 ·
I honestly can't wrap my head around why so many people push back against medication-based therapy. It feels like if one specific drug doesn't hit the mark or leaves you feeling terrible from side effects, there’s usually another option waiting in the wings. There are roughly 50 different antipsychotics available these days, so there's a lot of room for trial and error. Of course, everyone reacts differently—some people handle the side effects much better than others, which is just a reality of biology. I actually brought this up with my doctor, and she told me the most common reason patients drop their meds is simply because they start feeling better and mistakenly believe they've fully recovered. In my own experience, I only ever stopped my treatment once, and even then, I wasn't dealing with schizophrenia, just schizotypal disorder, which is essentially just one step shy of it. But I know plenty of people who have cycled on and off their prescriptions three or four times now, still convinced they don't need them. The tragedy is that every time they stop, the condition comes back even harder, eventually reaching a point where things get so complicated that help becomes much harder to find.
Jose Ward4 Jose Ward4 Regular
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#5938 ·
I’ve been thinking about this lately. It’s funny how certain things just stick in your mind, isn't it? You know that feeling when you're walking down a street in Chicago and suddenly a specific scent or a sound hits you, and you're instantly transported back to some random Tuesday five years ago? That's where I am right now. Just ruminating on Njušica. It’s one of those things that stays with you. Honestly, I can't quite put my finger on why it carries such weight, but there it is. Just a thought. says:
Ha... I mean, there really is just about everything under the sun when you consider there are nearly five billion people out there. It’s wild, isn't it?
Alright, Jose Ward4, why don't you give it a shot yourself? Give us the play-by-play once you're done. I'm genuinely curious to see how it goes for you.

I just don't have any love for that. 😁 People always say the same thing. You talk to anyone who actually managed to heal themselves through diet, and they all point back to one thing: strictly raw foods. Just watch how these patterns emerge. There’s a new study floating around suggesting that people dealing with schizophrenia might actually be reacting to gluten or animal proteins. The theory is that these specific foods irritate the nervous system, which then triggers schizophrenic symptoms. Now, look, this isn't settled science yet. Researchers are still running trials on both patients and healthy volunteers to see if these dietary triggers actually induce those specific symptoms. It’s all very much in the testing phase. On top of that, they’re looking into whether there’s a deficiency of estrogen in the brain. The idea is that a lack of estrogen could be a major driver behind the condition. It's fascinating stuff, really. I remember reading a similar piece about gut health once—everything seems connected if you look closely enough.

Harold Anderson3 said:I honestly can't wrap my head around why so many people push back against medication-based therapy. It feels like if one specific drug doesn't hit the mark or leaves you feeling terrible from side effects, there’s usually another option waiting in the wings. There are roughly 50 different antipsychotics available these days, so there's a lot of room for trial and error. Of course, everyone reacts differently—some people handle the side effects much better than others, which is just a reality of biology. I actually brought this up with my doctor, and she told me the most common reason patients drop their meds is simply because they start feeling better and mistakenly believe they've fully recovered. In my own experience, I only ever stopped my treatment once, and even then, I wasn't dealing with schizophrenia, just schizotypal disorder, which is essentially just one step shy of it. But I know plenty of people who have cycled on and off their prescriptions three or four times now, still convinced they don't need them. The tragedy is that every time they stop, the condition comes back even harder, eventually reaching a point where things get so complicated that help becomes much harder to find.

It’s such a joke how people talk about medication. You get these slowed-down, "fake" versions of actual reactions instead of the real thing. That’s exactly why people stop taking their meds in the first place—it’s not that they hate the symptoms, it’s that they can’t stand the side effects. Then, once they start feeling okay, they think, "Hey, I’m cured! I don't need this anymore," but they can't just ignore the truth. You can't deny that these pills make you feel drowsy or totally numb. Even with something like Zoloft, if you aren't careful, it hits you hard. It really knocks the life out of you.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#5939 ·
Man, I’m really not feeling too great today.
Rebecca Rivera3 Rebecca Rivera3 Active Member
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joined Mar 2017
#5940 ·
Absolutely terrible.

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