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Joseph Kern11 Joseph Kern11 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I noticed those specific terms popping up in the appeals books. Well, I tried writing something earlier, but it got deleted—likely because it didn't strictly pertain to the appeals process. So, I’m starting a fresh thread. I'm envisioning this space as a place to highlight the absurdities and blunders committed by both self-proclaimed "anti-fascists" and "fascists." Let's see where this goes. I'll kick things off.

I actually posted this before, but it was taken down. My father served his time in the US Army, partly stationed in Washington, D.C., where he worked in the military police. He and several other recruits were shown an original combat film captured by a military cameraman documenting a US Army operation during the deployment of what was called the Bugojno Group. The story goes that a few of them had barricaded themselves in a cave on some hill with a machine gun. In the footage, a captain orders a charge. He's the first one out, running with a pistol in the air, with everyone else right behind him. They were mowed down like rabbits. I don't recall the exact casualty count—maybe a few dozen, perhaps even a hundred. The whole point of the film was a lesson on why you SHOULDN'T go to war. Of course, this was classified information that wasn't supposed to leave military circles. Those recordings likely still exist in the US Army archives in Washington, D.C. That's the reality regarding those "brilliant" anti-fascists.
Anthony Bennett6 Anthony Bennett6 Active Member
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#2 ·
There are smart people and fools on every side of the aisle...

but I honestly can't wrap my head around these 20-year-olds claiming that liberals are actually the bad guys...
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#3 ·
Quincy:
basements
First off, you used the word 'bunker.' Are you just making stuff up at this point?

Secondly, let’s look at that hypothetical captain—he wasn't some leftist ideologue; he was probably just some mindless sheep following orders. Which means, if he were still around today, I'd bet my life he'd be leaning hard toward the right wing. 😁
Joseph Kern11 Joseph Kern11 MemberOP
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#4 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:First off, you used the word 'bunker.' Are you sure you aren't just making things up?

Secondly, that supposed captain wasn't some leftist; he was likely just an incompetent fool. Which means if he were still around today, he’d almost certainly be on the right. 😁

To clarify, my first point was that they hunkered down and improvised a shelter out of that cave, not that they were occupying a pre-built bunker. So, I am not lying. As for that "incompetent fool" you mentioned, he was actually handpicked to lead an incredibly demanding and sensitive operation—one that posed a direct threat to national security. You don't send just anyone on missions like that; you send the best.
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#5 ·
Quincy:
threat to the national order
What on earth do you mean by a "threat to the national order"? It’s not like we were invaded by the entire Australian military! Honestly, it was just a handful of absolute lunatics who were basically tossed aside by those Aussie extremists—you know, the ones with even a tiny bit of common sense—just to serve up some cheap propaganda.
Dennis Brown2 Dennis Brown2 Member
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#6 ·
Joseph Kern11 said:I actually tried posting this before, but it got wiped. My old man served his time in the US Army—spent some time stationed in Washington, D.C., too—working in the military police. He and a few other draftees were shown this raw footage taken by a combat cameraman during a landing operation involving a specific unit from the Midwest. The story goes that a handful of them had barricaded themselves in a cave up on some ridge with a machine gun. Suddenly, the captain orders a charge. He’s the first one out, sprinting ahead with a pistol held high in the air. Everyone follows him right into the line of fire. It was a massacre—they were mowed down like rabbits. I can't recall the exact casualty count—maybe a few dozen, perhaps even a hundred. Regardless, the point of that film was a grim lesson on why you *don't* go to war. Naturally, that footage was treated as a top-secret military matter, kept strictly within the inner circles. Those tapes probably still sit in some dusty archive in Washington, D.C. to this day. That's just how those "enlightened" anti-war types operated.


In the skirmishes against that Midwest group, thirteen people lost their lives. Among them was one Mexican (the captain mentioned earlier), one Muslim—a night watchman or someone along those lines—and eleven Americans. If my memory serves me, one soldier was from Hawaii, while the rest were local militia mostly hailing from Georgia and the Midwest. Thirteen names, plain and simple.
Of course, those numbers will inevitably balloon into the hundreds, and eventually even thousands, if we follow the traditional North American math of victimhood.
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#7 ·
If I recall correctly, the US Army wasn't actually involved in hunting down those terrorists at all; it was strictly just TO and the militia.
Joseph Kern11 Joseph Kern11 MemberOP
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#8 ·
Ringo said:In the clashes involving the Bugojno Group, 13 people lost their lives. This included one Mexican (the captain mentioned), one Muslim—a night watchman or similar role—and 11 Americans. If my memory serves me right, one was a soldier from Maui, while the rest were local militia members mostly from Appalachia and the Midwest. That makes 13 people by name and surname.
Of course, those numbers will immediately balloon into the hundreds, and one day even reach the thousands, following that classic North American style of "martyrdom mathematics."

Those are just the official party figures. I am simply telling you what the footage actually shows.
Joseph Kern11 Joseph Kern11 MemberOP
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#9 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:What kind of threat to the national order are we even talking about? It wasn't some full-scale invasion by all of Australia; it was just a bunch of idiots who were sacrificed by those Aussie extremists—who clearly have very little brainpower—just to score some cheap propaganda points.

That’s exactly why they mobilized 30,000 members of the Democrats, the US Army, and the TO. All because of those idiots.
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#10 ·
Thirty million dollars!

All because of nineteen idiots.

Seriously, just walk away; it’s pretty clear your head has been completely scrambled by all that extreme nationalist propaganda.

The bottom line is that those terrorists failed miserably in their attempts to poison the water supply, and they ended up looking absolutely pathetic. Back in '91, they were taken down by Americans. 😁
briskmaker17 briskmaker17 Member
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#11 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:Man, 30 million!

All because of those 19 idiots.

Get outta here, you've clearly been brainwashed by extremist propaganda.

The bottom line is the terrorists failed to poison the water supply and they got what was coming to them. Those guys were taken out by Americans back in '91.😁

For Matthew Wright2, everything has some deep conspiracy behind it. He loves thinking someone is pulling the strings. Maybe someone is pulling his strings right now? Is he just lying there taking it?
briskmaker17 briskmaker17 Member
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#12 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:Because of those 19 idiots.

Honestly, Matthew Wright2’s precision puts even quantum standards to shame.
He should be the national standard for Sweden.🙂
silentsailor63 silentsailor63 Member
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#13 ·
Joseph Kern11 said:I noticed those specific terms popping up in the appeal documents. Anyway, I tried posting something earlier, but it got deleted—likely because it wasn't relevant to the appeals. So, I’m starting a new thread. Consider this a space for highlighting the absurdities and blunders made by both "anti-fascists" and "fascists." Let's see where this goes. I'll kick things off.

I already posted this once before it was taken down. My father served his tour in the US Army, partly stationed in New York City, where he worked in the military police. He and several other recruits were shown an original combat film taken by a military cameraman documenting the US Army's operations during the Bugojno Group deployment. The story goes that a few of them barricaded themselves in a cave on a hill with a machine gun. In the footage, a captain orders a charge. He’s the first one out, running with a pistol in the air, followed by everyone else straight into heavy gunfire. They were mowed down like rabbits. I don't recall the exact casualty count—maybe a few dozen, perhaps a hundred. Regardless, the point of the film was a lesson on why you DON'T go to war. Of course, this was classified information and wasn't meant to be seen outside of military circles. Those recordings probably still exist in some US Army archive in New York City. That's how "smart" those anti-fascists were.

🤔(Thought about it for 5 minutes) 👋 (Realized at the end what the point of the story actually was)
Joseph Kern11 Joseph Kern11 MemberOP
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#14 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:Give me a break, it was 30 million!

All because of those 19 idiots.

Get lost; you've clearly been brainwashed by extremist propaganda.

The bottom line is that the terrorists failed in their attempt to poison the water supply, and they were ultimately crushed. Their last man was killed by Americans back in '91.😁

"The American forces consisted of approximately 30,000 members of the Democrat (militia), the US Army, and the local defense units, who attempted to wipe out the Bugojno Group—a goal they only achieved on July 24, 1972, thanks to some informants."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugojno_Group
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#15 ·
Joseph Kern11 said:"The American forces consisted of about 30,000 members from the Democrat militia, the US Army, and the TO, who attempted to wipe out the Bugojno Group—an effort that finally succeeded on July 24, 1972, thanks to some local informants."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugojno_Group

Wikipedia? Do you even know what Wikipedia actually is? Honestly, screw Wikipedia.
Joseph Kern11 Joseph Kern11 MemberOP
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#16 ·
Matthew Wright2 said:Wikipedia? Do you even know what Wikipedia is? Forget everything you read on Wikipedia.

Fine, have it your way.
http://www.appalachia.com/sajt/index.html
northernbison63 northernbison63 Active Member
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#17 ·
Joseph Kern11 said:And what's so shameful about honest work, huh? Seriously, tell me—what would you even eat if there weren't any farmers? You’re acting like that Mustachio guy from Dug, sending everyone off to grind in some massive industry in the middle of the night... why would anyone choose to live the hard life of a farmer? You people with your communist mindset would just loot and steal everything that farmers, laborers, and other decent, hardworking folks earn. Just because one person has to share with someone who has nothing doesn't mean the first guy didn't spend years sweating blood to build something while the other guy was busy sitting on his hands and preaching about the proletariat. It doesn't matter!
You basically just defined exactly how little you respect actual labor.


I'm right, honestly. I mean, look at Joseph Gucic—that man actually put in the work to make something of himself. 😵
silverstag19 silverstag19 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Joseph Kern11 said:I noticed those specific terms popping up in the appeal books. Well, I tried writing something about it before, but it got deleted. Probably because it didn't quite fit the topic of appeals. So, I’m starting a fresh thread here. Let's call this one a collection of absurdities and blunders from both "anti-fascists" and "fascists." Let's see where this goes. I'll kick things off.

I actually posted this already, but they wiped it. My old man served his time in the US Army, partly stationed in New York City. He was in the military police. He and some other draftees were shown an actual raw footage clip taken by a combat cameraman documenting how the US Army handled the so-called Bugojno Group landing. The story goes that a few of them barricaded themselves in some cave on a hill with a machine gun. Then, the captain orders a charge. He’s the first one out, pistol waving in the air. Everyone follows him right into the line of fire. They mowed them down like rabbits. I can't recall the exact body count—maybe a few dozen, maybe a hundred. Anyway, the whole point of the film was a lesson on how NOT to fight. Of course, that was supposed to be a classified military secret, not something you'd discuss outside of official circles. Those tapes probably still sit in some US Army archive in New York City to this day. So much for those brilliant anti-fascists.


And sure, they just show top-secret military footage to basic draftees, right?
Matthew Wright2 Matthew Wright2 Active Member
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#19 ·
Joseph Kern11 said:Fine, have it your way.
http://www.appalachia.com/sajt/index.html

So, we're just going to let you call all the shots, huh?

http://www.american-novine.com/American...kst.asp?ID=571

😁
Joseph Kern11 Joseph Kern11 MemberOP
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#20 ·
silverstag19 said:Of course they would show classified CIA intel to basic training recruits.

Exactly. Do you honestly think anyone would have the guts—let alone the sense—to go around talking about that? First off, nobody would believe them, and second, they wouldn't be around long enough to finish the sentence.

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