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Jamie Martin37 Jamie Martin37 Member
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#7281 ·
Hey, anyone here experienced with antidepressants? I’ve got a quick question 🙂
So, I'm currently on Prozac, but I totally blanked on asking my psychiatrist something during my last checkup... basically, I was thinking about drinking more green tea because my skin has been acting up lately. I already know I have to stay away from alcohol and try to cut back on caffeine, but does that rule apply to all kinds of tea too? Besides St. John's Wort—which I definitely know is a no-go—is there anything else I should watch out for?
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#7282 ·
Jamie Martin37 said:Hey, anyone here experienced with antidepressants? I’ve got a quick question 🙂
So, I'm currently on Prozac, but I totally blanked on asking my psychiatrist something during my last checkup... basically, I was thinking about drinking more green tea because my skin has been acting up lately. I already know I have to stay away from alcohol and try to cut back on caffeine, but does that rule apply to all kinds of tea too? Besides St. John's Wort—which I definitely know is a no-go—is there anything else I should watch out for?

Regardless of whether you're drinking black, oolong, or white tea, the caffeine content remains tied to the plant itself—with black tea generally being the strongest... If you happen to shop at a local specialty tea boutique and want to try green tea, I’d suggest picking up some Kukicha. Since it's made from stems rather than leaves, the caffeine levels are almost nonexistent, yet the quality is exceptional. It has a very mild flavor profile, making it a perfect choice for anyone who wants the benefits of green tea without that typical bitter aftertaste...
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
488 messages
joined Jul 2012
#7283 ·
briskwolf16 said:Quick question regarding antidepressants. For years now, I’ve been cycling through various options—everything from Lexapro and Celexa to Prozac, and most recently Zoloft and Seroquel. The pattern is always the same: they knock me out and make me feel incredibly sedated, yet they barely touch the anxiety itself. It’s frustrating because my primary struggle isn't even the depression; it's the anxiety that triggers the depressive episodes. Plus, the physical symptoms are brutal—constant stomach issues and this persistent, restless tension. Has anyone else dealt with this specific loop where the meds just act as heavy sedatives without actually calming the nerves? Is there perhaps a different class of medication that might work better for someone with high levels of somatization?

Look, I have zero issues with medication in principle. Honestly, I’d take ten different kinds if it meant finally finding the right fit. I’m just completely burnt out on psychotherapy at this point. I feel like I'm constantly hearing the exact same advice over and over again, and frankly, I’d rather just see if we can solve this through chemistry instead.

I'm in the exact same boat. Nothing seems to effectively curb my anxiety. To be fair, I haven't experimented with a vast array of options yet, but it feels like most of what's available is heavily skewed toward treating depression rather than the panic side of things. I'm looking for answers too.
Larry Barnes10 Larry Barnes10 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#7284 ·
Maria Wood8 said:I’ve put on a few pounds since I started taking Lexapro, too. I’m constantly snacking—all I can think about is food. It's weird because I'm usually not even a big eater. For now, it's fine, but I really don't want to keep gaining weight.
Regarding libido... yeah, I have zero interest in sex. Like, zilch. Not since I started this medication. It doesn't bother me too much right now, though, just because of where I am in life.
I'm not sure about the official diagnosis, but my paperwork says something about "depressive-anxious symptoms in a socially introverted individual." That's probably it.
Is escitalopram—the main ingredient in Lexapro—a hormone or something? Do these antidepressants mess with your hormones?

Look, I'm no expert on hormones, so hopefully someone here who actually knows their stuff can weigh in on that.🤷
For me, the meds barely even work. My libido is totally normal and I haven't had any real side effects at the start. I haven't noticed an increased appetite either, which seems to be what people get once they actually start feeling better.😲😢🙂

Maybe I need to bump up the dose, but obviously only after talking it over with my psychiatrist...
Chloe Hughes6 Chloe Hughes6 Member
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joined Dec 2012
#7285 ·
Some people seem completely lost in this discussion. (I kindly ask the moderators and fellow members to bear with me, as I’m clearly having an off day!) Nevertheless, I can't help but notice a certain pattern of conversation emerging. It usually goes like this: "I take this medication and that supplement; will they interact?"—even though the answer is clearly printed right there on the warning label inside the box! Then, another user chiming in simply says, "Yes, that's exactly what it says," and thus, we have users merely exchanging information that was already provided by the manufacturer. And don't even get me started on these constant questions about weight gain! 🙂 For my part, I have personally tried roughly thirty different psychotropic medications, all of which were prescribed by my doctors (and I am being entirely serious). If anyone has any specific inquiries, please feel free to ask, as my posting style should make it quite evident that I know my stuff.
restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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#7286 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:I'm in the exact same boat. Nothing seems to effectively curb my anxiety. To be fair, I haven't experimented with a vast array of options yet, but it feels like most of what's available is heavily skewed toward treating depression rather than the panic side of things. I'm looking for answers too.

It is unfortunate that we don't have a psychologist readily available here to step in and offer guidance. My therapist once explained to me that there isn't a single medication on the market that can completely eliminate anxiety; at best, these drugs can simply dial it down to a manageable level. When I pressed her for clarification, she noted that anxiety is essentially a reaction to the internal conflicts we wage within ourselves. Resolving those underlying issues requires dedicated therapy. Changing those deep-seated patterns can take several years, depending entirely on how much effort one is willing to put into the process.
I even jokingly asked her about getting a lobotomy—just kidding, of course—but she insisted that even then, my anxiety would remain 😁

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Larry Barnes10 Larry Barnes10 Member
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#7287 ·
Chloe Hughes6 said:Some people seem completely lost in this discussion. (I kindly ask the moderators and fellow members to bear with me, as I’m clearly having an off day!) Nevertheless, I can't help but notice a certain pattern of conversation emerging. It usually goes like this: "I take this medication and that supplement; will they interact?"—even though the answer is clearly printed right there on the warning label inside the box! Then, another user chiming in simply says, "Yes, that's exactly what it says," and thus, we have users merely exchanging information that was already provided by the manufacturer. And don't even get me started on these constant questions about weight gain! 🙂 For my part, I have personally tried roughly thirty different psychotropic medications, all of which were prescribed by my doctors (and I am being entirely serious). If anyone has any specific inquiries, please feel free to ask, as my posting style should make it quite evident that I know my stuff.

We're all pretty new to this whole scene, so don't be too hard on us😁 plus, being curious is just human nature. Some questions are definitely stupid, but whatever, people ask stuff when they're spiraling. This is basically an online therapy couch, after all.🤣

Anyway, since you've tried thirty of them, which one actually worked best? Just wondering if I should mention it to my psychiatrist next time, because what I'm on right now isn't doing squat...
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
425 messages
joined May 2013
#7288 ·
Chloe Hughes6 said:Some people seem completely lost in this discussion. (I kindly ask the moderators and fellow members to bear with me, as I’m clearly having an off day!) Nevertheless, I can't help but notice a certain pattern of conversation emerging. It usually goes like this: "I take this medication and that supplement; will they interact?"—even though the answer is clearly printed right there on the warning label inside the box! Then, another user chiming in simply says, "Yes, that's exactly what it says," and thus, we have users merely exchanging information that was already provided by the manufacturer. And don't even get me started on these constant questions about weight gain! 🙂 For my part, I have personally tried roughly thirty different psychotropic medications, all of which were prescribed by my doctors (and I am being entirely serious). If anyone has any specific inquiries, please feel free to ask, as my posting style should make it quite evident that I know my stuff.

That is wonderful! In that case, could you perhaps use your own lived experience to describe how certain medications actually affect a person?

I am particularly curious—have you ever taken Seroquel? And if you have, what was that journey like for you? How did you feel before you started, while you were on it, and once the treatment was over?
Chloe Hughes6 Chloe Hughes6 Member
48 messages
joined Dec 2012
#7289 ·
Larry Barnes10 said:We're all pretty new to this whole scene, so don't be too hard on us😁 plus, being curious is just human nature. Some questions are definitely stupid, but whatever, people ask stuff when they're spiraling. This is basically an online therapy couch, after all.🤣

Anyway, since you've tried thirty of them, which one actually worked best? Just wondering if I should mention it to my psychiatrist next time, because what I'm on right now isn't doing squat...

Does anyone else feel like Escitalopram just isn't hitting the mark? I personally found that Citalopram worked much better for me, but unfortunately, it seems to be becoming harder to find lately. When it comes to managing depression, wouldn't you agree that Paxil is actually quite effective? It certainly does the trick for me!
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
251 messages
joined Oct 2012
#7290 ·
Chloe Hughes6 said:Some people seem completely lost in this discussion. (I kindly ask the moderators and fellow members to bear with me, as I’m clearly having an off day!) Nevertheless, I can't help but notice a certain pattern of conversation emerging. It usually goes like this: "I take this medication and that supplement; will they interact?"—even though the answer is clearly printed right there on the warning label inside the box! Then, another user chiming in simply says, "Yes, that's exactly what it says," and thus, we have users merely exchanging information that was already provided by the manufacturer. And don't even get me started on these constant questions about weight gain! 🙂 For my part, I have personally tried roughly thirty different psychotropic medications, all of which were prescribed by my doctors (and I am being entirely serious). If anyone has any specific inquiries, please feel free to ask, as my posting style should make it quite evident that I know my stuff.

And what would anyone even ask you once you tell them it's all written on the pamphlet?
As for the weight gain stuff, it's not some trivial thing. People asking about gaining weight aren't just worried about looks (though that matters too). Weight gain brings real issues like high blood pressure and diabetes. Besides, why should it bother you if someone wants to ask around because they're trying to avoid packing on pounds from their medication?
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
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joined Oct 2012
#7291 ·
restlesstrucker15 said:It is unfortunate that we don't have a psychologist readily available here to step in and offer guidance. My therapist once explained to me that there isn't a single medication on the market that can completely eliminate anxiety; at best, these drugs can simply dial it down to a manageable level. When I pressed her for clarification, she noted that anxiety is essentially a reaction to the internal conflicts we wage within ourselves. Resolving those underlying issues requires dedicated therapy. Changing those deep-seated patterns can take several years, depending entirely on how much effort one is willing to put into the process.
I even jokingly asked her about getting a lobotomy—just kidding, of course—but she insisted that even then, my anxiety would remain 😁

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Time keeps passing, and I'm looking at it this way. I've been on Valtrex for six months—two months at 75 mg after starting on 37.5 mg—and for about two months, I've been taking 15 mg of Unknown at night (though lately I've been taking a half dose). Finally, about two weeks ago, my anxiety dropped to a tolerable level, and I've significantly cut back on the Xanax, though I'm still using it. Honestly, my anxiety fluctuates based on how I handle the day or just how things go. I don't think any antidepressant can fully wipe out anxiety without us doing the work or going through psychotherapy.
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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joined Jul 2012
#7292 ·
Paul Newman5 said:Time keeps passing, and I'm looking at it this way. I've been on Valtrex for six months—two months at 75 mg after starting on 37.5 mg—and for about two months, I've been taking 15 mg of Unknown at night (though lately I've been taking a half dose). Finally, about two weeks ago, my anxiety dropped to a tolerable level, and I've significantly cut back on the Xanax, though I'm still using it. Honestly, my anxiety fluctuates based on how I handle the day or just how things go. I don't think any antidepressant can fully wipe out anxiety without us doing the work or going through psychotherapy.

You see, my experience with Unknown is quite different; it seems to be losing its efficacy even for sleep. In the beginning, I’d drift off instantly, but after ten days, I find myself needing Ambien just to get any rest. As for the anxiety? It hasn't budged an inch. It’s truly disheartening to have been on this for so long, but if the Ambien isn't cutting it, I feel backed into a corner where I have to increase the Unknown again... honestly, I'm just deeply disappointed.😢
I'll eventually have to pivot to a different medication, but then we run right back into the sleep issue... and on top of everything else, 😢 I wake up feeling utterly drained, exhausted, and riddled with tension. Those butterflies in the stomach—it's just wretched.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#7293 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:You see, my experience with Unknown is quite different; it seems to be losing its efficacy even for sleep. In the beginning, I’d drift off instantly, but after ten days, I find myself needing Ambien just to get any rest. As for the anxiety? It hasn't budged an inch. It’s truly disheartening to have been on this for so long, but if the Ambien isn't cutting it, I feel backed into a corner where I have to increase the Unknown again... honestly, I'm just deeply disappointed.😢
I'll eventually have to pivot to a different medication, but then we run right back into the sleep issue... and on top of everything else, 😢 I wake up feeling utterly drained, exhausted, and riddled with tension. Those butterflies in the stomach—it's just wretched.

I've been taking Unknown at 45 mg and Valtrex at 75 mg for literally years now. For sleep, I also take Q-pin at 300 mg.
With a combination like that, I really don't have any issues with sleeping, provided 5 or 6 hours feels like enough.
Honestly, increasing your antidepressant? I highly doubt that’s going to do anything for your sleep.
In fact, doctors shouldn't even be mixing Unknown and Valtrex because, apparently, those two antidepressants aren't recommended to be taken together.
Any antipsychotic, even in tiny doses, might help you out with the sleep situation. You really ought to discuss that with your doctor.
Of course, you wouldn't even need the anxiolytics anymore.
Paul Newman5 Paul Newman5 Regular
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joined Oct 2012
#7294 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:You see, my experience with Unknown is quite different; it seems to be losing its efficacy even for sleep. In the beginning, I’d drift off instantly, but after ten days, I find myself needing Ambien just to get any rest. As for the anxiety? It hasn't budged an inch. It’s truly disheartening to have been on this for so long, but if the Ambien isn't cutting it, I feel backed into a corner where I have to increase the Unknown again... honestly, I'm just deeply disappointed.😢
I'll eventually have to pivot to a different medication, but then we run right back into the sleep issue... and on top of everything else, 😢 I wake up feeling utterly drained, exhausted, and riddled with tension. Those butterflies in the stomach—it's just wretched.

Unknown hasn't really helped my sleep either, but it did kill that horrible morning anxiety. Maybe it was the Effexor too, since once my doctor bumped me up to 75mg, things started looking better—though even that took nearly two months. And yeah, I feel drained if I lie in bed or sleep too much. The earlier I get up, the better. For the last ten days or so, the anxiety has finally hit a manageable level; I've even tapered off some Xanax, though I'm still taking it. Hoping it stays this way. Maybe it will.
Michael Harris20 Michael Harris20 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#7295 ·
Can someone explain the difference between the diazepam alkaloid (those little yellow 5 mg pills) and the green Normabal tablets (also 5 mg)? Is there actually any real difference at all, or is it basically the same thing in terms of how they work?
brighthawk0 brighthawk0 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#7296 ·
Michael Harris20 said:Can someone explain the difference between the diazepam alkaloid (those little yellow 5 mg pills) and the green Normabal tablets (also 5 mg)? Is there actually any real difference at all, or is it basically the same thing in terms of how they work?

It’s essentially the same thing. You really have to look at the fine print under the brand name... that’s the actual chemical, the "generic" name.

For example, Alprazolam is just Alprazolam, whether it's branded or not. Prozac works the same way too... you get the idea.
The only real difference is which company manufactures them and what they decide to charge you. The actual effect stays the same, I guess.
Chloe Hughes6 Chloe Hughes6 Member
48 messages
joined Dec 2012
#7297 ·
brighthawk0 said:It’s essentially the same thing. You really have to look at the fine print under the brand name... that’s the actual chemical, the "generic" name.

For example, Alprazolam is just Alprazolam, whether it's branded or not. Prozac works the same way too... you get the idea.
The only real difference is which company manufactures them and what they decide to charge you. The actual effect stays the same, I guess.

Exactly! It is all fundamentally the same stuff. They discontinue one version and suddenly they're offering you another. Sometimes there's even a ridiculous little surcharge just so it falls under a specific administrative category where it isn't technically considered the "same" drug from a different manufacturer. If that happens, the doctor has to write a whole new prescription, allowing the pharmacy to upcharge you instead of giving you the cheaper brand. It's all just pharmaceutical politics!

But oh, wouldn't it be wonderful if they'd just stop this nonsense for once? 🙂
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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joined Jul 2012
#7298 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:I've been taking Unknown at 45 mg and Valtrex at 75 mg for literally years now. For sleep, I also take Q-pin at 300 mg.
With a combination like that, I really don't have any issues with sleeping, provided 5 or 6 hours feels like enough.
Honestly, increasing your antidepressant? I highly doubt that’s going to do anything for your sleep.
In fact, doctors shouldn't even be mixing Unknown and Valtrex because, apparently, those two antidepressants aren't recommended to be taken together.
Any antipsychotic, even in tiny doses, might help you out with the sleep situation. You really ought to discuss that with your doctor.
Of course, you wouldn't even need the anxiolytics anymore.

I’m not actually taking Valtrex, just the Unknown, but I've been wanting to add Prozac to the mix too. I'll be starting it in the next few days; I was waiting until my appetite finally returned because I had completely lost interest in food (even with the Unknown), but now I feel ready to start the Prozac. I might take the Unknown in a smaller dose at night, or perhaps just take that Q-pin in the evening, though the thought of that medication honestly scares me.
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
488 messages
joined Jul 2012
#7299 ·
Paul Newman5 said:Unknown hasn't really helped my sleep either, but it did kill that horrible morning anxiety. Maybe it was the Effexor too, since once my doctor bumped me up to 75mg, things started looking better—though even that took nearly two months. And yeah, I feel drained if I lie in bed or sleep too much. The earlier I get up, the better. For the last ten days or so, the anxiety has finally hit a manageable level; I've even tapered off some Xanax, though I'm still taking it. Hoping it stays this way. Maybe it will.

And what about at night—do you still take that Lexapro, or have you moved past it?

As for me, falling asleep is an absolute uphill battle. I can lie there until 1:00 AM even if I hit the sack at 11:00... and once I finally do drift off, five or six hours of rest simply won't cut it; I absolutely require a full eight hours to function. Even then, I wake up feeling completely drained, which I suspect is just the cumulative weight of all these pills.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
425 messages
joined May 2013
#7300 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:I’m not actually taking Valtrex, just the Unknown, but I've been wanting to add Prozac to the mix too. I'll be starting it in the next few days; I was waiting until my appetite finally returned because I had completely lost interest in food (even with the Unknown), but now I feel ready to start the Prozac. I might take the Unknown in a smaller dose at night, or perhaps just take that Q-pin in the evening, though the thought of that medication honestly scares me.

There’s really no reason to be terrified of the Q-pin; it isn't nearly as scary as people make it out to be. 😁
Did your doctor actually suggest that, or are you considering taking it on your own? Well, it doesn't really matter, does it? If you've already made up your mind, then you should definitely start with the lowest possible dose.
I wonder where our friend @rejoflajt is hiding? She really knows her stuff when it comes to managing low doses.
They even come in 25 mg versions, though I personally haven't ever tried them.
How on earth are you even managing to get your hands on these types of medications?😕

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