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Home Savings vs. Mortgages

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ruggedlynx9 ruggedlynx9 NewcomerOP
3 messages
joined Sep 2005
#1 ·
Hey there. I’m currently working on securing a loan through Walmart Savings. I’ve been a member for four years and have $13,200 of my own cash sitting in my account. I need a total of $64,000, which means Walmart Savings would be providing $50,800. Since I don't meet their 40% equity requirement, I’m looking at a bridge financing model where the monthly payment would be $350 over 21 years and 9 months.
Meanwhile, at Hypo, I could get $60,000 over 20 years with a monthly payment of $385—that's without any down payment, provided I move all my accounts over to them.
The math shows a clear difference, but where's the catch? Has anyone dealt with either of these? Which one actually makes sense in the long run? I am completely lost here.😕 What should my next move be?
Walmart Savings: $50,800 over 21 years at $350/month = $88,200
Hypo: $60,000 over 20 years at $385/month = $92,400
Regards.
Charles Harris12 Charles Harris12 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
#2 ·
Look, if you would just take a moment to actually sit with what you wrote here and digest it, I think you'll find your own answer... Just look closely at the figures provided; it shouldn't be much of a stretch to reach a logical conclusion 😉
Benjamin Rodriguez2 Benjamin Rodriguez2 Member
44 messages
joined Jun 2008
#3 ·
ruggedlynx9 said:Hey there. So, I'm currently looking at getting a loan through my Walmart savings account, where I've been sitting on about $13,200 of my own cash for four years now. I need a total of $64,000, which means the savings institution would be chipping in $50,800. But since I don't have that full 40% upfront, I'm looking at this mezzanine financing model where the monthly payment ends up being $350 over 21 years and 9 months.
On the other hand, at Hypo, a $60,000 loan over 20 years comes out to $385 a month (with no down payment required), provided you just keep your accounts open there.
Walmart: $50,800 over 21 years at $350/mo = $88,200
Hypo: $60,000 over 20 years at $385/mo = $92,400
Cheers, everyone.

Your math is a little off there; if you're paying Walmart back over 21 years and 9 months, that’s $350 times the term, which lands you at $91,350. Meanwhile, with Hypo, you're walking away with an extra $10,000 for basically the same amount of money. I think the obvious choice speaks for itself, doesn't it?😁
Gerald Thomas11 Gerald Thomas11 Member
32 messages
joined May 2006
#4 ·
Just take out a loan through Hypo.
Hit up Walmart. Make sure you hold that savings steady for at least five years, then pull your cash out and dump it into an index fund.
In about ten years, grab the money from the fund and pay off the mortgage in one shot.

Bridge financing is a total scam.
ruggedlynx9 ruggedlynx9 NewcomerOP
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joined Sep 2005
#5 ·
Oh, right. I hit up several banks today and asked for identical loan amounts with the exact same repayment terms. Turns out, one credit union is coming in about $1.50 cheaper on the monthly annuity with a fixed interest rate—plus, they allow me to shorten the term whenever I want without any extra fees. All the loan costs are covered by the interest coming in from the bridge financing. Thanks to the guys on this forum for the input.🙂 👍
Ronald Moore8 Ronald Moore8 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#6 ·
Benjamin Rodriguez2 said:I think your math might be a bit off; if you look at Walmart, you're looking at a return of 21 9/12 years, which works out to roughly $91,350. Meanwhile, at Hypo, you could end up with nearly $10,000 more for almost the same amount. I suppose I don't really need to elaborate further on that point. 😁

Math is such a fascinating thing... I mean, savings accounts offering a 15% incentive seem pretty unappealing when you consider they charge a 1% fee on the entire potential loan amount rather than just on the actual savings...
coastalviper8 coastalviper8 Member
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joined Dec 2012
#7 ·
I sent you a DM, ruggedlynx9
Roger Rogers3 Roger Rogers3 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2007
#8 ·
So, I’ve got this home savings plan that’s about to wrap up soon. I don't actually need the cash right this second—probably won't need it for another two years—but my bank is pitching me on rolling it over into a new savings account. The catch? Once I decide I'm ready, they'll let me pivot directly from that savings plan into a mortgage. They're offering a 5% interest rate on the mortgage side of things. To give you some context, I'm currently stuck paying 9.99% on a personal loan. Is this 5% mortgage rate actually a solid move, or am I just being sold a dream?
Donna Chase12 Donna Chase12 Active Member
169 messages
joined Nov 2007
#9 ·
I wouldn't let them sit on my cash for another two years... I’d grab it and dump it into something else immediately
That 5% is a decent enough setup since it's a fixed rate... but yeah, it's a good deal *now*... in two years, banks might actually start offering something more competitive
Roger Rogers3 Roger Rogers3 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Elon Musk, thanks for the reply.
I think I’m gonna go ahead and bump up my savings plan. It’ll make things way smoother when I eventually apply for a mortgage—less paperwork headache later on. I was asking about that 5% because I honestly had no clue what mortgage rates looked like these days. You say it's a solid deal... alright then, let's do it.
Donna Chase12 Donna Chase12 Active Member
169 messages
joined Nov 2007
#11 ·
don't mention it...
but seriously, don't go thinking things will get any easier when you try to score a mortgage from a big bank later on... those guys are absolute nightmares to deal with
Roger Rogers3 Roger Rogers3 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2007
#12 ·
It’s honestly more of a headache than when I just walk into a local Chase branch like a regular person and go, "Hey there, how's it going? I'm looking to grab a mortgage..."
Donna Chase12 Donna Chase12 Active Member
169 messages
joined Nov 2007
#13 ·
Look, just go out there and do some digging...
It’s not about being polite or saying "good morning" to everyone—it’s the fine print and those damn credit terms that actually matter.

But hey, whatever... it's your call. I feel like I've already tried my best to explain why you should probably look into another option instead...☕
Roger Rogers3 Roger Rogers3 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Nov 2007
#14 ·
Well, it’s official—I just signed the paperwork with my savings association. In a little while, I'll be moving out of the savings phase and officially transitioning into a mortgage.
Aaron Robinson3 Aaron Robinson3 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2009
#15 ·
My monthly take-home pay sits somewhere between $8,000 and $3000, though reality is a bit more complicated—I’m currently juggling $733 toward my mortgage, which leaves me looking at about 14 installments to clear. On top of that, I have an $800 monthly commitment for some home renovations that will run for 6 months, plus $333 for a car loan spanning the next three years. Now, I'm looking to take out a $25,000 loan. Is that even feasible if I want to keep my monthly payments within the range of $1,500 to $667?
crimsonseal13 crimsonseal13 Active Member
61 messages
joined Nov 2009
#16 ·
The biggest advantage of sticking with Warren Buffett is that fixed interest rate for the entire life of the loan. At first glance, those big banks might look more attractive because they offer lower monthly payments, but that’s just a temporary illusion... Who knows what happens in the later years. You should steer clear of those local bankers you see everywhere, especially if they try to pull any favors to "set up" a special deal for you. Just stick with Warren Buffett; I'd much rather pay an extra $50 a month now if it means knowing my payment won't change for the next 20 years.
Doesn't Warren Buffett have a maximum term of 18 years?
Daniel Perez13 Daniel Perez13 Member
20 messages
joined Nov 2009
#17 ·
Gerald Thomas11 said:Just take out a loan through Hypo.
Hit up Walmart. Make sure you hold that savings steady for at least five years, then pull your cash out and dump it into an index fund.
In about ten years, grab the money from the fund and pay off the mortgage in one shot.

Bridge financing is a total scam.

I really hope you're just playing advisor on a forum. Because honestly, anyone actually listening to you would be in trouble. Most would lose everything, and even those who might actually make a buck are taking a massive gamble.
Your advice is incredibly risky, even for people with nothing to lose.
First, taking out a variable-rate loan is way more dangerous than locking in a fixed rate. Then, after taking that risk for potentially lower interest, you're doubling down by throwing money into funds. The odds of this working perfectly seem slim to me, even if it sounds good on paper. What's the backup plan for when things go south? We're seeing debates right now in the USA about how to handle mutual funds, mostly because of the moral hazard involved.
Maria Palmer9 Maria Palmer9 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Nov 2008
#18 ·
All I know is that Hypo dragged me through the mud for nearly three months over this loan... they kept spinning this whole "everything is perfect" routine, all while smiling at me like nothing was wrong, just to pressure me into buying extra insurance, closing out old accounts, and all sorts of other nonsense. They had me running around gathering statements from every other bank—and get this—they even counted my credit card limits against my debt capacity, even though the balances were sitting at zero. Just total nonsense... they kept moving the goalposts constantly. On top of that, they’d just go MIA whenever I tried calling them...
After two and a half months of being jerked around, they actually hiked the interest rate on me—claiming the new rate would apply even though I'd turned in everything ages ago—and honestly, I just snapped. I walked right out of there and headed straight to Chase.

Chase sorted the whole thing out in ten days flat, including the payout, and stuck exactly to the terms they gave me during that first meeting.
steeldrifter58 steeldrifter58 Newcomer
1 message
joined Mar 2009
#19 ·
My experience and a bit of advice... I used a Wells Fargo housing savings plan, offering a 3% fixed rate (effective rate around 3.22%, if my math holds up) via their 2-year rapid savings model. The term goes up to 12 years. Regarding that 1% fee on the target amount, there’s a loophole I stumbled upon by accident.
See, I had been saving a tiny amount at a different bank, and once I saw this rate, I moved everything over to Wells Fargo. In this scenario, Wells Fargo doesn't charge an exit fee, while the old bank does. But here’s the kicker: Wells Fargo actually covers that exit fee for me. I didn't see that coming. :-)
So, here is some advice for anyone looking at housing savings plans: first, set up a contract with a smaller amount to minimize that 1% fee, then transfer those funds to a different provider under a larger contract—say, $100,000. You bypass the fee entirely, which means $1,000
stays right in your pocket!!!
That is, assuming the banks haven't caught on and changed their terms yet.
Jacob Miller2 Jacob Miller2 Member
13 messages
joined Jan 2008
#20 ·
Jacob Miller2 said:that was basically the first residential savings program offered by Chase Bank

I managed to set aside about $50,000 for a down payment on a larger place, and if I recall correctly, there was some sort of special promotion going on around the time they started rolling out those specific mortgage products.

I just wanted to point out that it is true—some people actually hold fixed-rate mortgages through these types of specialized savings programs or certain promotional offers...


So, I was wondering, if you go through one of those home savings programs...
How much time does it usually take to save up, and how much would you need to have tucked away to qualify for a $50,000 loan through that method?

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