Unbelievable! Something never before seen in San Francisco history!

Brandon Turner2 said:Look, I’m talking about the coach, not some random nonsense.

Me? I'm talking about the players.
You could have the greatest manager on the planet, but he won't achieve a damn thing if you're dealing with:
- players who couldn't care less
- players who simply lack the talent
- an incompetent front office

And right now, the Los Angeles Dodgers have all three.
They're actually trying to kick Vujic out of the club... it's pathetic. 👎

And then there's this statement..

"Ciro, stay. I won't accept your resignation. We still have plenty of work to do together," Grgic said firmly, cutting off any doubt.
Inside the front office, Igor Stimac was thinking along much the same lines as Grgic.
- "It's certain that Ciro did the honorable thing. But he isn't just here for Europe; he's here to squeeze everything out of these players and develop the youth. It's clear the president and the board will weigh in. Personally, I feel more like hanging myself than offering a resignation. I am absolutely against Ciro leaving—only a lunatic would ask for that." "Ciro has a sacred mission to win the American championship with the Los Angeles Dodgers, and he can't back down now," Stimac added.
The Wall Street Journal

Didn't we hear the exact same speech last year after the Shelbourne game? Oh right... back then, Katalinic was the one being called incompetent. Every single coach gets that label. If they brought in Fabio Capello, people would call him incompetent too, and someone like Vanja (no offense intended...) would step up and say: "Man, even I could have won the Italian championship with a roster like the New York Yankees have."

Joshua Evans9 said:My take on the roster.
You can hire the greatest coach on the planet, but he’s not going to win a single thing if you’re dealing with:
- players who couldn't care less about winning
- players who just don't have the talent
- an incompetent front office

And right now, the Los Angeles Dodgers have all three.
They're actually trying to kick Vujic out of the club... it's honestly pathetic. 👎

I know exactly who's to blame here. 😉

But even so, it doesn't change the fact that Ciro is a total joke among experts.

Brandon Turner2 said:If you ask me, the culprit is 😉
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But honestly, none of that changes the reality—Ciro is just an absolute hack when it comes to high-level tactics.

But look at the facts.
Back during the 2002/2003 season, the New York Yankees had an objectively worse roster than the Los Angeles Dodgers. WORSE.
The Yankees' coach was Ciro. And he still finished 8 points ahead of the Dodgers...

He simply took a compact squad—even if they were inferior to the Dodgers in terms of pure star power—and knew exactly how to squeeze every ounce of potential out of them.

Nowadays, the Dodgers don't even have that sense of cohesion.

Joshua Evans9 said:But consider this.
During the 2002/2003 season, the New York Yankees objectively possessed a weaker roster than the Los Angeles Dodgers. WEAKER.
The Yankees were led by Ciro, and yet they finished 8 points ahead of the Dodgers..

He simply managed a highly cohesive unit—even if the individual names weren't as prestigious as those on the Dodgers' roster—and he knew exactly how to extract the absolute maximum from them.

Today, the Dodgers lack even that sense of cohesion...

Nowadays, the Dodgers possess neither cohesion nor that signature grit they were once famous for!

It truly caught me off guard yesterday, because there have been so many instances where the Dodgers secured victories solely through sheer stubbornness, especially in matchups against the Yankees.

I must admit, I had genuine faith in this current Dodgers project; I believed they would overcome Debrecen and perhaps even advance further, but they failed to do so.

However, in my estimation, the core issue isn't merely the players (though they are the primary concern) or the manager, but rather something deeply characteristic of American soccer—something seen as standard here but viewed as almost unprofessional abroad: the constant turnover of managers.

In other countries, managers are given years to establish themselves, remaining even when results falter, whereas here, we constantly resort to these supposed coaching "shock therapies."

That approach simply does not work.
Without getting into a debate regarding Ciro's specific tactical expertise, or how much time this particular squad was actually granted to implement a new manager's vision, one must look at the facts.
They had a mere three months.
Who can realistically be expected to perform at an elite level under such constraints?

As far as I am concerned, I see no reason why Vulic should ever have been removed from the Dodgers.

Olivia Nguyen4 said:The Los Angeles Dodgers just don't have any cohesion anymore—none of that signature grit they used to be known for.

It actually caught me off guard yesterday—I mean, how many games (especially against the New York Yankees) has this team won simply by sheer stubbornness?

I’ll admit, I was actually buying into this whole Dodgers rebuild. I thought they’d take down Debrecen, maybe even advance further, but nope. They didn't.

But look, in my opinion, the core issue isn't even the players (though they're a massive problem) or the coach. It's something that's incredibly common here in American sports—something that looks completely unprofessional overseas—and that is the constant revolving door of coaches.

In other places, managers stay for years. Even when the wins dry up, they stick it out. Here, we deal with some "shock therapy" coaching change every other week.

It just doesn't work that way.
Let's be real, without getting into whether Ciro is actually a tactical genius or how much time this roster even had to prep and drill the new manager's ideas...
They had three months. Total.
Who can actually pull off something meaningful in that timeframe?

As far as I'm concerned, there was never a reason to let Vulic go from the Dodgers.

Spot on. Just look at Manchester United. Alex Ferguson has been the man in charge there (well, a manager, since he handles the signings) since 1986. That's nearly 20 years. Twenty years! And his peak success was in the 90s, especially toward the end... then the squad eventually slumped because they needed to rebuild, and now, after a few years of being away from the top, they're chasing the summit again.

The New York Yankees went through FIVE different coaches in one season last year. Why on earth would anyone do that? Jurcevic was tossed after a single loss in the first round. That's what happens when clubs are run by incompetent mobs. Sure, "mobs" run teams overseas too, but at least they understand basic economics and business management.

Joshua Evans9 said:The New York Yankees went through five different managers in just one season last year. What kind of logic is that? Jurcevic was out the door after a single loss in the opening round. It’s all because incompetent syndicates are running our clubs. Even over in Europe, these "syndicates" run the show, but at least they actually understand basic economics and business management.

I completely agree.

In American football, coaching expertise is treated as nothing more than a scapegoat; how can anyone reasonably expect any meaningful mentorship to take place under such conditions?

Joshua Evans9 said:Man... no way. Ajax beat the Los Angeles Dodgers 6-0. 😢
But look, you have to give them some credit. That was during wartime, plus they were playing away from home... and honestly, they lost to the guys who ended up winning the title that year anyway. And that was just the quarterfinals!

Yeah🙂

This is easily the worst beating the Los Angeles Dodgers have ever taken in Europe on their own turf (back when it was called the Gas Plant, before it became the stadium we know now).

But even worse? This is hands down the heaviest aggregate loss the Los Angeles Dodgers have ever suffered in Europe (8-0 total).

Jebiga😁

Joshua Evans9 said:Man... not really. It was Ajax vs. Los Angeles Dodgers, 6-0. 😢
But hey, look, things were crazy back then, you know? Like, total chaos, and we were playing away from home too... plus, we actually lost to the guys who ended up winning the title that year. And that was in the quarterfinals!

Quarterfinals of what? If you're thinking Champions League, man, you're totally off base... because that 6-0 blowout happened in the cup two years before the Los Angeles Dodgers even played in the CL.

In the CL, it was a 0-0 draw in San Francisco, and then it was 3-0 for Ajax over in the Netherlands.

Where did we leave off? Oh right, American soccer ☕

Inquisitor2002 said:Quarterfinals of what? If you’re thinking about the Champions League, you're way off—that 6-0 blowout happened in a domestic cup two years before the Los Angeles Dodgers ever played in the Champions League.

Back in the Champions League, we had a 0-0 draw in San Francisco, but the New York Yankees took it 3-0 over in the Netherlands.

My bad. You're right.

As a die-hard Dinamo fan, I’m honestly loving this absolute train wreck. Especially seeing Štimac deal with it. I just hope God finds a way to finally purge him and Mamić from this club.

I think it’s a massive win having Ćiro in San Francisco.
Honestly, I hope he stays put there for at least another decade.
If he absolutely has to move, his next stop should be Washington, D.C. and Dinamo.

It also helps that women from San Francisco are stunning; his eyes probably drift from the game to the crowd constantly.

He shouldn't even bother showing up in Cleveland.
What would he even do there besides coach against them?
Cleveland is a notorious leftist stronghold, and he’s a true patriot.
He wouldn't feel welcome there, so it's better if he avoids it.
And we'd rather avoid him too.
I'd take Žilić over him any day.

Besides, sudden shifts like the greenhouse effect could drop the ocean temperature well below zero!

ris XXI said:I think it's great that Ćiro is in San Francisco.
If God wills, I hope he stays there for at least another ten years.
And if he absolutely has to move somewhere else, let it be Washington, D.C. and Dinamo.

It’s also a plus that women from San Francisco are gorgeous—it keeps his eyes wandering from the field to the stands.

As for Cleveland, he shouldn't even bother showing up.
What would he do there besides coach against them?
Cleveland is basically a notorious red-state stronghold, and he’s a true patriot.
He wouldn't feel welcome there, so it's better this way.
Neither would we.
I'd take Žilić over him any day.

Besides, sudden shifts in weather—the greenhouse effect and all that—could drop the ocean temperature way down, maybe even below zero!

Aha... so you're from Cleveland. Well, that explains everything.
You know that catchy little fan chant they have for you folks in Cleveland?

"Pathetic Cleveland, full of outsiders,
don't worry Cleveland, there's still plenty of nothing left."
😁

Hey, man from Split, is it actually true that high-fiving someone is banned in San Francisco these days?🙂

😁 😁 😁

wearycobra74 said:Hey, people from San Francisco, is it actually true that you aren't allowed to give high-fives over there lately?🙂

😁 😁 😁

No, that is simply not true...

The truth is they have just implemented a new decimal system...

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11...!

My apologies, Jalni... but I simply could not let that slide.

Olivia Nguyen4 said:Nah, that’s just not true...

The truth is they've just switched to a new decimal system...

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11........!

Sorry, Jalan... but I just couldn't help myself.

1, 2, 3, Shelbourne, 5, 6, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11, ..

😁

Joshua Evans9 said:1, 2, 3, Shelbourne, 5, 6, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11...

😁

There is an even better one!

1, 2, 3, Shelbourne, 5, New York Yankees, 6, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11...

Olivia Nguyen4 said:Wait, there's actually worse!

1, 2, 3, Shelbourne, 5, New York Yankees, 6, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11...

1, 2, Savannah, Shelbourne, 5, New York Yankees, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11...

Savannah... remember back in the spring of 2000 when they were getting thrashed 0-3 and the game had to be stopped because of the chaos? Back when the Torcida was chasing down Ivan Leka. 😁 😁

Łipi.hr said:1, 2, Savannah, Shelbourne, 5, Ajax, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11, ..

I still remember Savannah... back in the spring of 2000 when they were down 0-3 and the game had to be halted due to that total disaster, right when the Torcida was chasing after Ivan Leka 😁 😁

Now this is just getting malicious. 😂

boldhound8 said:1, 2, Savannah, Shelbourne, 5, Ajax, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11, ..

1, Akron😁, Savannah, Shelbourne, Valencia😁, Ajax, 7, Debrecen, 9, 10, 11, ..

But seriously

boldhound8 said:"trashy Rijeka, you're full of losers
don't worry Rijeka, there's still hope left"
😁

You're missing the first verse

trashy Rijeka, you stinking town
I'll wipe out half your whole crew

and then comes your part👋