Traffic violation procedures

Dennis Moore8 said:Hey everyone, I’ve got a question! This might sound a bit ridiculous, but I honestly can't stop overthinking it, so I figured I'd ask. Basically, I let some friends borrow my car, and they ended up getting pulled over by the police. Since none of them were wearing seatbelts, the cops slapped each of them with a $167 fine. Now, here is what’s eating at me: if they decide not to pay—and I’m pretty sure one of them will try to settle up, but the other one is a total flake, so who knows?—will I end up getting hit with a notice because the car is registered in my name, or does the citation actually go straight to their home addresses?

It goes to whoever actually committed the violation. Basically, it hits them—your registration is just on file because you own the vehicle they were driving.

Hey everyone, I could use some advice here:
Does anyone know how the statute of limitations actually works for traffic violations (specifically speeding)? The citation happened back in April 2006, and I filed an appeal in August 2006. Since then, absolutely nothing happened. Then, out of nowhere two months ago, the police show up at my house to serve a decision. They couldn't catch me because I was away on a business trip. Now, they’re showing up again these past few days trying to "escort" me to municipal court... Can they even do that if they haven't officially served me the decision yet? Or at least attempted to? What's the deal with the statute of limitations in these cases? And what should my next move be...

fadedrider02 said:Hey everyone, I could use some advice here:
Does anyone know how the statute of limitations actually works for traffic violations (specifically speeding)? The citation happened back in April 2006, and I filed an appeal in August 2006. Since then, absolutely nothing happened. Then, out of nowhere two months ago, the police show up at my house to serve a decision. They couldn't catch me because I was away on a business trip. Now, they’re showing up again these past few days trying to "escort" me to municipal court... Can they even do that if they haven't officially served me the decision yet? Or at least attempted to? What's the deal with the statute of limitations in these cases? And what should my next move be...

If you were speeding, why the hell are you complaining anyway? Were you wrong? I guess I'd personally want to slap the cuffs on you and throw the whole book at you. DRIVE FAST AND THEN WHINE ABOUT IT!

GOD DAMN IT PEOPLE, SERIOUSLY, CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT KIND OF NATION WE ARE... AND THEN AFTER EVERYTHING, WE STILL END UP WITH THE SAME TYPE OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, jeez, I wouldn't want to pay either... but honestly, what kind of example are you setting for your own kids? It’s not just about the fine... it's like, you drive too fast—you get caught—and then you complain just to try and dodge the bill. If you don't feel like paying, maybe you should just go volunteer at a soup kitchen instead.

Whatever, screw the police, the courts, and all of it... people shouldn't be surprised when things blow up in their faces after acting like this.

It’s not even about whether I would have paid the fine or not... it’s just that we all know how things actually work in this country. And I wasn't putting anyone at risk on the road; the speed limit signs are placed exactly where they don't belong, and they're nowhere to be found where they actually should be.
So I'm just asking: if the government couldn't even be bothered to respond to my formal appeal, what gives them the right to send the police straight to my front door?

fadedrider02 said:It’s not even about whether I would have paid the fine or not... it’s just that we all know how things actually work in this country. And I wasn't putting anyone at risk on the road; the speed limit signs are placed exactly where they don't belong, and they're nowhere to be found where they actually should be.
So I'm just asking: if the government couldn't even be bothered to respond to my formal appeal, what gives them the right to send the police straight to my front door?

Look... you aren't just complaining, you're acting like you're some kind of expert on where traffic signs ought to go... that's what I'm talking about—it's a total mess all over the country. I guess if you had just paid the fine first and then went looking for justice, I wouldn't say anything... you might have actually had a leg to stand on. But this? You're acting like YOU know better than everyone else where those signs belong. What else do you know? Maybe reading tea leaves? Or predicting the future? And as for the police showing up at your house... I mean, who really cares? You complained. What, do you want us to sit here and debate your little appeal now?

p.s. Read back what you wrote: "we all know how this country works." Yeah—it's people like you that make it so we all know exactly how this country works.

Just be embarrassed by yourself, honestly.

Why not just call the local precinct or the municipal court and ask them straight up what they want with you?

Jonathan Bishop76 said:Why not just call the local precinct or the municipal court and ask them straight up what they want with you?

Yeah, right... maybe they need a striptease. Or maybe I should whip up some pancakes for them. Or maybe they want me to dance on a pole... or I don't know... paint their fence... or clean their toilets...

Lisa Kern38 said:Yeah, right... maybe they need a striptease. Or maybe I should whip up some pancakes for them. Or maybe they want me to dance on a pole... or I don't know... paint their fence... or clean their toilets...

I was actually looking for some actual advice here, but thanks anyway🙂...

fadedrider02, I wouldn't let those fanatics get under your skin. I honestly don't understand why people make such a massive deal out of an appeal. The statute of limitations on this violation is pretty old, so you can likely just wait it out.

If you just keep filing appeals against their appeals, eventually the whole thing will just expire.

Jacob Miller2 said:fadedrider02, I wouldn't let those fanatics get under your skin. I honestly don't understand why people make such a massive deal out of an appeal. The statute of limitations on this violation is pretty old, so you can likely just wait it out.

If you just keep filing appeals against their appeals, eventually the whole thing will just expire.

So this is what we call a lawyer after five years of law school... give me a break. I guess why even bother going to college if this is the level of advice we're getting.

Lisa Kern38 said:So this is what we call a lawyer after five years of law school... give me a break. I guess why even bother going to college if this is the level of advice we're getting.

Wait, seriously? 🙂

I'm not sure I follow—what exactly is your issue here? ☕

Jacob Miller2, I don't think they can actually force you to show up in court just for speeding. If you had picked up the summons, it probably would have laid out all the dates and times you need to be there, but it likely also mentioned that if you can't make it in person, you can submit a written defense instead. Honestly, I don't think anyone could really compel you to appear in person for a simple speeding ticket. Stalin is dead 🙂.

Here’s a bit of my own experience. A couple of years back, I was driving too fast and got caught by a speed camera. Everything was clear—it showed my face, the speed, the date, my license plate... I was definitely in the wrong. So, I filed an appeal. Eventually, I got a notice in the mail saying my appeal was denied 🙂 though I'm not entirely sure why 🙂. I tried a second appeal, but that was rejected too 🙂. Each step took about four or five months to process. Then, I eventually received a court summons. It felt a bit much, expecting me to actually appear in court just for speeding 🙂; it almost felt like I was being treated as if I'd hit someone. That's why those notices usually give you the option to defend yourself in writing. That's what I opted for. It's been three years since the incident, so it's a closed chapter for me. Now that they're introducing these new regulations, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how things actually play out in practice
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And just to be clear, if a judge finds you guilty and sets a fine that you simply refuse to pay, well, that's a whole different issue. I just don't want some fanatic jumping in here to claim that nobody can do anything at all to you regarding this
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Jacob Miller2 said:Wait, seriously? 🙂

I'm not sure I follow—what exactly is your issue here? ☕

Give it a rest... as if you were any smarter at seven years old...☕

Jacob Miller2 said:Jacob Miller2, I don't think they can actually force you to show up in court just for speeding. If you had picked up the summons, it probably would have laid out all the dates and times you need to be there, but it likely also mentioned that if you can't make it in person, you can submit a written defense instead. Honestly, I don't think anyone could really compel you to appear in person for a simple speeding ticket. Stalin is dead 🙂.

Here’s a bit of my own experience. A couple of years back, I was driving too fast and got caught by a speed camera. Everything was clear—it showed my face, the speed, the date, my license plate... I was definitely in the wrong. So, I filed an appeal. Eventually, I got a notice in the mail saying my appeal was denied 🙂 though I'm not entirely sure why 🙂. I tried a second appeal, but that was rejected too 🙂. Each step took about four or five months to process. Then, I eventually received a court summons. It felt a bit much, expecting me to actually appear in court just for speeding 🙂; it almost felt like I was being treated as if I'd hit someone. That's why those notices usually give you the option to defend yourself in writing. That's what I opted for. It's been three years since the incident, so it's a closed chapter for me. Now that they're introducing these new regulations, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how things actually play out in practice
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And just to be clear, if a judge finds you guilty and sets a fine that you simply refuse to pay, well, that's a whole different issue. I just don't want some fanatic jumping in here to claim that nobody can do anything at all to you regarding this
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Thanks for the response..
I appealed the fine I was given, and that was that... I never even got a court summons..
So, I have zero intention of showing up in court..
Plus, I've moved since then, so it wouldn't even be under the jurisdiction of the Los Angeles court anymore. They'd have to transfer the case to my new area, right?

Jurisdiction is always determined by where the crime actually went down...

Jonathan Bishop76 said:Give it a rest... as if you were any smarter at seven years old...☕

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fadedrider02 said:Thanks for the response..
I appealed the fine I was given, and that was that... I never even got a court summons..
So, I have zero intention of showing up in court..
Plus, I've moved since then, so it wouldn't even be under the jurisdiction of the Los Angeles court anymore. They'd have to transfer the case to my new area, right?

Just tie a flag around your neck and go nuts... and for every appeal, just shove a cucumber up your ass.... man, if President Franjo Harmon were still around, you wouldn't even have a pedestrian license, let alone a driver's license.

And you, Jonathan Bishop76, just go play in traffic.

Alright, I’ve gotta throw a question out there too. My nephew—he was about 17 last year (back in 2006)—got pulled over by the cops while he was heading home. When they stopped us (I was riding along with him), he refused the breathalyzer because the officers were being such absolute losers and acting incredibly rude👎. They had their sirens flashing like we were some high-level criminals, and he didn't sign a single thing. He kept asking them to just let him go for a blood test instead, but they acted like we weren't even there, just completely ignored us, wrote up the ticket, and dipped without saying a word👎. Look, I'm not saying he hadn't had a few drinks, but it wasn't like he was wasted or anything, yet when we begged for a blood draw, they wouldn't budge. A few days later, we went straight to a judge we know personally, where he gave his statement. She ended up handing down a ruling finding him guilty, giving him a six-month license suspension, 5 points on his record, and $1000 in fines. Seriously, it's way too much; he doesn't have the money for this. That ruling came through in December 2006, so we filed an appeal and now we're just sitting around waiting.🤷 In our appeal, we asked if they could at least lower the fine, but we didn't even mention the license. Now we're regretting going to that judge right away; honestly, it might have been better to wait, but we just sped the whole process up. I don't really get how these legal things work, so what do you guys think he can expect? Is there any chance this will just hit the statute of limitations?😕
Should we keep filing appeals? I don't even know...

I know people are gonna jump down my throat saying we should've known better, but we seriously had no clue🤷 that the law was this brutal for anyone who refuses the breathalyzer. If we'd known, he definitely would've just blown into the machine..
Please, if anyone can give us some advice, I'd appreciate it...🙂

Lisa Kern38 said:Just tie a flag around your neck and go nuts... and for every appeal, just shove a cucumber up your ass.... man, if President Franjo Harmon were still around, you wouldn't even have a pedestrian license, let alone a driver's license.

And you, Jonathan Bishop76, just go play in traffic.

Honestly, if he were still alive, the whole world would be a much better place🤣

So, I got busted yesterday... DUI and driving after curfew since I’m still in that junior license phase. Now I’m looking to fight this, but honestly, I have zero clue how any of this works. Can an attorney actually write up an appeal for me? Because I don't understand a single word of this legal jargon... Plus, the officer handed me three different documents and some payment slips, and I had to sign them all. Since I didn't sign just one specific line—specifically the part admitting to the alcohol charge—can I just appeal that one part? Or am I stuck appealing the whole thing? Thanks in advance.