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Lawrence Wood56 Lawrence Wood56 Newcomer
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#1261 ·
restlessangler66 said:I’m not even sure if I’m hitting the right thread here, but if anyone actually knows the answer—please, help a person out.

So, basically, which federal agency is a citizen supposed to reach out to if they stumble upon some legal entity or corporation committing an actual crime? Specifically, we’re talking about illegal smuggling across the border and a bunch of other related violations tied to that kind of stuff.

Thanks

I guess it might be smarter to just tip off the federal inspectors or Customs.
You can actually file a report online if someone's breaking the rules:
Link:
Kate Bailey2 Kate Bailey2 Member
49 messages
joined Feb 2005
#1262 ·
The deadline to file an appeal is 8 days from when you receive the citation. How exactly are those 8 days calculated? Does it include weekends, or is it strictly business days? Thanks.
restlessangler66 restlessangler66 Newcomer
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#1263 ·
rowdybadger3 said:Honestly, I think a 92 would be plenty to turn him around...

I mean, seriously, if you’re in some kind of crazy emergency, just dial 911. It's not rocket science, right? Just hit those three numbers and hope for the best. I guess if you don't, you're basically just sitting there waiting for things to go south, which, let's be honest, sounds like a terrible plan.
Look, at the end of the day, the police aren't even supposed to be running these kinds of investigations. That’s not their lane. They’re actually required to pass this stuff off to the specific agencies that handle these exact types of issues—and similar ones, too. Honestly, that was my only real question here—like, which specific departments are actually in charge of this?

Lawrence Wood56 said:I guess it might be smarter to just tip off the federal inspectors or Customs.
You can actually file a report online if someone's breaking the rules:
Link:

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Seriously, thanks a million!😉
Gary Jones10 Gary Jones10 Active Member
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joined Feb 2004
#1264 ·
My company just received a "congratulations" note from the court—essentially a wage garnishment notice—over some unpaid fee for a car towed by a Spider tow truck via SF Municipal Services.

The issue? This supposed violation happened back in 2000, and the court proceedings took place in 2001.

I had absolutely no idea this was happening. All the notices were sent to an address where I wasn't even registered at the time, so I never received any contact. Now, the garnishment order claims there's no option to appeal.

I have a few questions:

1. Is it possible to challenge the legality of the procedure? And if so, to whom? They sent the notices to the wrong address, denying me any chance to respond or contest the court's decision.

2. Is there a statute of limitations on enforcing such a debt? It’s been over seven years since the proceeding, and now they want to tack on interest for that entire period.

3. If the proceeding is overturned (assuming I can successfully challenge its legality), will they refund the money?
Joshua Allen5 Joshua Allen5 Newcomer
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#1265 ·
What are the odds that the BuzzFeed investigation actually hits a statute of limitations wall? Like, how many years do we have to wait before they can't touch it anymore??
Michael Moore Michael Moore Newcomer
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#1266 ·
The statute of limitations has expired again

So, back on August 11, 2006, I was speeding. I received a citation in the mail $167 along with the associated $37 fines.
I filed an appeal within the eight-day window.
I later received notice that my appeal had been escalated to the Supreme Court.
Then yesterday, November 10, 2008, I finally received a Supreme Court Ruling stating they are reducing part of my sentence—specifically, I’ll only receive one point on my license under Section 253, Paragraph 1 of the Misdemeanor Act—but I still have to pay the $167 fines since I am technically at fault.

Question1: I have never been called in for any kind of hearing; was I actually supposed to attend one?
Question 2: This ruling doesn't specify a deadline for when I need to settle these $500+ payments$37. What is the actual cutoff?
Question 3: Do I have the right to appeal this decision again, and if so, on what grounds? I read earlier in this thread that sometimes a court realizes a case has expired and just arbitrarily assigns a date from five or six months ago to make it look valid. I suspect that might be exactly what happened in my case.

Bottom line: I don't want to pay. If I simply refuse, will they "come looking for me," and will the total amount increase?

P.S. I am looking for legal advice, not a lecture on morality.

Thanks!
Michael Moore Michael Moore Newcomer
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#1267 ·
Anyone? ... Come on, people, use your heads...
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
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#1268 ·
man, just go ahead and read through this whole thread, you'll find all the answers you're looking for right there 😉
Nathan Walker16 Nathan Walker16 Member
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joined Nov 2008
#1269 ·
Hey there. Just checking in.

Back on December 9, 2006, I found myself staring down a massive fine from the authorities, and honestly, looking back at it now, it’s just one of those moments that sticks with you—not because it was life-changing, but because of how much of a headache it turned out to be. $667And that was all because I decided to get behind the wheel before I actually had my driver's license in hand.

Back on December 12, 2006, I finally sat down to file a formal appeal because I was adamant that I should have been legally allowed to get behind the wheel. See, I had actually passed my driving test way back on March 18 of that year, so technically the skill was there—I just hadn't gone through the tedious process of picking up the physical license from the DMV yet.

So, I just got hit with this notice on November 12th, telling me I’m officially in the wrong and that I have exactly fifteen days to cough up the cash. If I don't settle it by then, they're going to come after me to collect it forcibly, which is always a fun thought to sit with over a coffee. The paperwork also mentions that I have the option to file an appeal with the Supreme Court of the United States if I want to fight it.

So, am I looking at a statute of limitations that kicks in just a month from now? Honestly, I’m trying to figure out if it’s even worth my breath to file an appeal with the Supreme Court of the United States, or if I'm just throwing good money after bad.
Morgan Murphy7 Morgan Murphy7 Active Member
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#1270 ·
Nathan Walker16 said:Hey there. Just checking in.

Back on December 9, 2006, I found myself staring down a massive fine from the authorities, and honestly, looking back at it now, it’s just one of those moments that sticks with you—not because it was life-changing, but because of how much of a headache it turned out to be. $667And that was all because I decided to get behind the wheel before I actually had my driver's license in hand.

Back on December 12, 2006, I finally sat down to file a formal appeal because I was adamant that I should have been legally allowed to get behind the wheel. See, I had actually passed my driving test way back on March 18 of that year, so technically the skill was there—I just hadn't gone through the tedious process of picking up the physical license from the DMV yet.

So, I just got hit with this notice on November 12th, telling me I’m officially in the wrong and that I have exactly fifteen days to cough up the cash. If I don't settle it by then, they're going to come after me to collect it forcibly, which is always a fun thought to sit with over a coffee. The paperwork also mentions that I have the option to file an appeal with the Supreme Court of the United States if I want to fight it.

So, am I looking at a statute of limitations that kicks in just a month from now? Honestly, I’m trying to figure out if it’s even worth my breath to file an appeal with the Supreme Court of the United States, or if I'm just throwing good money after bad.

There is a growing legal argument suggesting that the provisions within the new statute of limitations law should actually be applied retroactively, potentially covering offenses that occurred even before the law officially took effect. It’s a complex area of jurisprudence, much like how we see debates over legislative shifts affecting pending cases in the US. It essentially boils down to whether the new rules can reach back and reshape the legal landscape for older violations.

Based on how things stand, it looks like the statute of limitations isn't going to help you out in this particular situation.
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
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#1271 ·
It won't fall under the statute of limitations once the final ruling has actually been handed down...
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
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#1272 ·
Morgan Murphy7 said:There is a growing legal argument suggesting that the provisions within the new statute of limitations law should actually be applied retroactively, potentially covering offenses that occurred even before the law officially took effect. It’s a complex area of jurisprudence, much like how we see debates over legislative shifts affecting pending cases in the US. It essentially boils down to whether the new rules can reach back and reshape the legal landscape for older violations.

Based on how things stand, it looks like the statute of limitations isn't going to help you out in this particular situation.

but look, the statute of limitations doesn't even matter once there's an official ruling on the table requiring you to take action or file an appeal...
Nathan Walker16 Nathan Walker16 Member
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#1273 ·
So, what you're telling me is my only real option here is to just open up my wallet?
Michael Moore Michael Moore Newcomer
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#1274 ·
@ crimsonsailor7: It isn’t that I haven’t attempted to follow this thread; I actually managed to make it through about fifteen pages before the sheer weight of everyone trying to outsmart one another became too much to bear...

To be perfectly clear, my question remains quite simple: what is the actual deadline for paying a fine if the notice itself fails to specify one, and what kind of recourse does the government or whatever authority is involved have if I simply choose not to pay? Would they actually come knocking at my door to demand more, or is there some other bureaucratic maneuver? That is the level of directness I am looking for.

I find it rather curious why everything involving the law, attorneys, the courts, or even just a legal studies department has to be treated with such hushed, conspiratorial secrecy 🙂 (though I am reasonably certain this particular post will garner an endless stream of commentary on almost everything except the actual answer)🙂
Morgan Murphy7 Morgan Murphy7 Active Member
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#1275 ·
crimsonsailor7 said:but look, the statute of limitations doesn't even matter once there's an official ruling on the table requiring you to take action or file an appeal...

That decision isn't final yet,

so the absolute statute of limitations clock is still ticking.

If you ask me, the best move is to file an appeal with the Supreme Court

and make sure to bring up the statute of limitations argument, regardless of what I mentioned earlier.

Let the court decide.
Lawrence Wood56 Lawrence Wood56 Newcomer
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#1276 ·
Michael Moore said:@ crimsonsailor7: It isn’t that I haven’t attempted to follow this thread; I actually managed to make it through about fifteen pages before the sheer weight of everyone trying to outsmart one another became too much to bear...

To be perfectly clear, my question remains quite simple: what is the actual deadline for paying a fine if the notice itself fails to specify one, and what kind of recourse does the government or whatever authority is involved have if I simply choose not to pay? Would they actually come knocking at my door to demand more, or is there some other bureaucratic maneuver? That is the level of directness I am looking for.

I find it rather curious why everything involving the law, attorneys, the courts, or even just a legal studies department has to be treated with such hushed, conspiratorial secrecy 🙂 (though I am reasonably certain this particular post will garner an endless stream of commentary on almost everything except the actual answer)🙂

The Supreme Court decision basically just upholds the District Court ruling, which already had the payment deadline listed.

I guess if you don't pay, they just send a notice to the IRS to garnish your wages for the US Treasury.
Michael Moore Michael Moore Newcomer
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#1277 ·
thanks
Nancy Wright25 Nancy Wright25 Newcomer
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#1278 ·
Hey everyone, I could really use some guidance here—I just received a ruling from the District Court this morning regarding a traffic violation from about two months ago. Essentially, the notice states that I’ve been hit with a fine of $667 and, to make matters worse, my driver's license is being suspended for three months. What are my actual options at this stage? I desperately need my license back😢—has anyone dealt with this recently under the updated Highway Traffic Safety Act? For context, this is my very first offense.
Keith Nguyen7 Keith Nguyen7 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#1279 ·
I mean, if you're only 13, just send your mom to court instead.🙂
Just kidding. Seriously though, file that appeal—you’ve got nothing to lose. Even if nothing happens, you'll at least buy yourself some time while the courts drag their feet, which might give you enough room to figure out a plan.
Sean Anderson49 Sean Anderson49 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2008
#1280 ·
Draft the appeal

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