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darkstag2 darkstag2 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2004
#1361 ·
whatever 😁
casualowl63 casualowl63 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1362 ·
I've been sitting here thinking about this whole mess, and honestly, it’s just typical. You see these things happening and you wonder if anyone in charge actually gives a damn, or if they're all just playing games while the rest of us deal with the fallout. It feels like we're constantly hitting these walls, whether it's some ridiculous new regulation coming down from the Department or just the general chaos of trying to navigate daily life in a place like New York City. I remember back when I was first starting out, dealing with NYC Parking was enough to make me want to pull my hair out, and now it feels like every little thing is being squeezed for every cent. It's exhausting. And don't even get me started on what darkstag2 was saying earlier—some people just don't get the scale of how much this affects the average person. We're out here grinding, and the powers that be act like we're just numbers on a spreadsheet. It's frustrating, it's blunt, and frankly, it's getting old fast. kaže:
You’re gonna get her in no time... a buddy of mine was dealing with the exact same thing just a few days ago.😉 They really started cranking through the paperwork once those new laws and amendments finally went live. Honestly, if you ask me, it’s actually better for you to just get it over with now while things are moving—that way you don't have to worry about your current one expiring before you even see a dime.😁

Man, I honestly don't even know where to start with this one. It's just... wow. 🙄
I seriously need to figure out how to manifest some cash out of thin air, man. S:

So, what happens if I just... don't? Like, if a summons from the court shows up at my door via the mail and I decide to just leave it sitting there on the counter and pretend it doesn't exist? Is that actually goings to work, or am I just asking for a massive headache later on?
Is it even worth bothering to file an appeal against this decision? I’m living all by myself in my apartment and... $717 Monthly? Yeah, I mean, I know damn well that when that ticket finally hits my mailbox, it's gonna be a massive gut punch to my bank account.
Is there any way to actually pay that off in installments, or am I just stuck paying the whole damn thing upfront?
How long am I actually looking at for this driving ban?
Sean Brooks Sean Brooks Member
16 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1363 ·
So, I live right in the heart of the city, and I pay for a monthly permit for the red zone—which is supposed to give me the green light to park anywhere within those zones...
But honestly, that doesn't mean a damn thing because, as I’m sure you all know, finding a spot in our beloved New York City is an absolute nightmare. Today, in a fit of pure rage (mostly because there wasn't a single open space in sight), I ended up parking near the Department building since it looked empty... only for them to be "kind" enough to call the Spider service. They towed my car straight to their lot and, of course, charged me an absolute fortune for the privilege.($167)
So now I'm wondering—is there actually any way to fight this fine through an appeal?
Look, NYC Parking is basically a godsend, isn't it? They’ve just claimed every single parking spot for themselves under the guise that they "built" all the infrastructure and laid down every inch of asphalt in all of New York City. Apparently, that gives them the divine right to shake down drivers and residents whenever and however they please...
I assume the Department also pays (probably at a much higher rate) for monthly parking reserved exclusively for their staff. What I want to know is why us mere mortals—actual residents who pay our fair share—don't have even one single reserved spot available to us?
Isn't it a bit contradictory to sell permits and take people's money for a parking space that, in reality, you don't actually have? You just park wherever and whenever you can get lucky... imagine if you built a house somewhere outside of New York City and a crew from NYC Parking showed up to charge you for parking in your own driveway. But hey, that's just another robbery in a long line of schemes by the Government and their local cronies. Most Americans see right through it anyway, so what's the point in talking? Better to just stay quiet, right?

Anyway, getting back to my actual question: is there any real chance I can get this fine overturned with an appeal, or am I just stuck paying it no matter what?
Henry Morris3 Henry Morris3 Active Member
62 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1364 ·
Sean Brooks said:So, I live right in the heart of the city, and I pay for a monthly permit for the red zone—which is supposed to give me the green light to park anywhere within those zones...
But honestly, that doesn't mean a damn thing because, as I’m sure you all know, finding a spot in our beloved New York City is an absolute nightmare. Today, in a fit of pure rage (mostly because there wasn't a single open space in sight), I ended up parking near the Department building since it looked empty... only for them to be "kind" enough to call the Spider service. They towed my car straight to their lot and, of course, charged me an absolute fortune for the privilege.($167)
So now I'm wondering—is there actually any way to fight this fine through an appeal?
Look, NYC Parking is basically a godsend, isn't it? They’ve just claimed every single parking spot for themselves under the guise that they "built" all the infrastructure and laid down every inch of asphalt in all of New York City. Apparently, that gives them the divine right to shake down drivers and residents whenever and however they please...
I assume the Department also pays (probably at a much higher rate) for monthly parking reserved exclusively for their staff. What I want to know is why us mere mortals—actual residents who pay our fair share—don't have even one single reserved spot available to us?
Isn't it a bit contradictory to sell permits and take people's money for a parking space that, in reality, you don't actually have? You just park wherever and whenever you can get lucky... imagine if you built a house somewhere outside of New York City and a crew from NYC Parking showed up to charge you for parking in your own driveway. But hey, that's just another robbery in a long line of schemes by the Government and their local cronies. Most Americans see right through it anyway, so what's the point in talking? Better to just stay quiet, right?

Anyway, getting back to my actual question: is there any real chance I can get this fine overturned with an appeal, or am I just stuck paying it no matter what?

NYC Parking is the agency responsible for managing parking throughout New York City. It's owned by the city, which owns all public spaces. So, technically, there's nothing wrong with NYC Parking collecting fees. Secondly, when you pay those $37 or whatever amount you're paying, you aren't buying a guaranteed spot; you're just buying the right not to pay the hourly rate. It costs a bit more, maybe around $1000 a month (could be more in the first zone).
brightfalcon522 brightfalcon522 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1365 ·
Sean Brooks, tell me if you were parked in a spot reserved for a Department (those spots marked by traffic signs and usually a yellow stripe on the pavement)?
If that's the case, the person who ordered the tow pays the bill, not the driver, so the parking lot owner just sues them for the costs later.
casualowl63 casualowl63 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1366 ·
casualowl63 said:
I've been sitting here thinking about this whole mess, and honestly, it’s just typical. You see these things happening and you wonder if anyone in charge actually gives a damn, or if they're all just playing games while the rest of us deal with the fallout. It feels like we're constantly hitting these walls, whether it's some ridiculous new regulation coming down from the Department or just the general chaos of trying to navigate daily life in a place like New York City. I remember back when I was first starting out, dealing with NYC Parking was enough to make me want to pull my hair out, and now it feels like every little thing is being squeezed for every cent. It's exhausting. And don't even get me started on what darkstag2 was saying earlier—some people just don't get the scale of how much this affects the average person. We're out here grinding, and the powers that be act like we're just numbers on a spreadsheet. It's frustrating, it's blunt, and frankly, it's getting old fast. kaže:
You’re gonna get her in no time... a buddy of mine was dealing with the exact same thing just a few days ago.😉 They really started cranking through the paperwork once those new laws and amendments finally went live. Honestly, if you ask me, it’s actually better for you to just get it over with now while things are moving—that way you don't have to worry about your current one expiring before you even see a dime.😁

Man, I honestly don't even know where to start with this one. It's just... wow. 🙄
I seriously need to figure out how to manifest some cash out of thin air, man. S:

So, what happens if I just... don't? Like, if a summons from the court shows up at my door via the mail and I decide to just leave it sitting there on the counter and pretend it doesn't exist? Is that actually goings to work, or am I just asking for a massive headache later on?
Is it even worth bothering to file an appeal against this decision? I’m living all by myself in my apartment and... $717 Monthly? Yeah, I mean, I know damn well that when that ticket finally hits my mailbox, it's gonna be a massive gut punch to my bank account.
Is there any way to actually pay that off in installments, or am I just stuck paying the whole damn thing upfront?
How long am I actually looking at for this driving ban?


Anyone?
I really hate quoting my own self.🤷
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#1367 ·
We've actually touched on all of this a few times before 🙂
Sean Brooks Sean Brooks Member
16 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1368 ·
brightfalcon522 said:Sean Brooks, tell me if you were parked in a spot reserved for a Department (those spots marked by traffic signs and usually a yellow stripe on the pavement)?
If that's the case, the person who ordered the tow pays the bill, not the driver, so the parking lot owner just sues them for the costs later.

Parked 😉

Yeah, I parked on the yellow lines... I know I shouldn't have... but honestly, sometimes you just don't have an hour to sit around waiting...
They handed me the ticket, so I'll pay it... since you're bringing up lawsuits, let's be real—you don't want to mess with Wall Street, and at the end of the day, I'm just a tiny American mouse against a giant...
Thanks
Ethan Hill5 Ethan Hill5 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1369 ·
Hey, can someone who actually knows their stuff please tell me if leaving the scene of an accident still counts if nobody got hurt? Like, I mean zero injuries—not the passengers, not any pedestrians—and there isn't even any damage to anyone else's car or any major property destruction.

Basically, the only things that got wrecked were a concrete bollard and my own car.
Someone managed to scribble down my plates and called the police, but by then, I’d already moved my car somewhere else (it was still totally drivable, you know?).

I didn't even realize anyone had called the cops until they showed up at my house two days later—which was a bit of a shock, honestly—telling me I need to show up for an interview.

So, I’m just wondering... does this whole thing technically count as hit-and-run? And if it does, am I looking at a simple traffic ticket or is this some kind of serious criminal charge?
brightcrane56 brightcrane56 Member
44 messages
joined Sep 2007
#1370 ·
Look, you really shouldn't have called the police right away; what you should have done was "exchange information," which basically means tracking down the owner of that bollard and giving them your details so you could settle the damages directly.
If you want to see how this works, just Google the Road Traffic Safety Act—it lays everything out clearly for you.
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#1371 ·
It’s just a minor violation, so I’m pretty sure the fine won't be too bad, maybe up to $1667 and a couple of points on your license...
Gregory Watson61 Gregory Watson61 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1372 ·
Yesterday my sister-in-law got slapped with a $167 fine for using her phone while driving. The officer handed her the citation, but she didn't sign it. From what I understand about contesting a ticket, you file an objection with the local Police Department that issued it within 8 days... or if that doesn't work, you appeal the court's decision once it's handed down. Is that how it works?

One more thing... a few months back, she got hit with a speeding ticket in a residential zone for $333 (she was going 31 miles mph over the limit). She hasn't paid that one, nor did she contest it.

So now she's wondering what the move is. Should she fight this new cell phone ticket, or just pay it and wait for the court ruling on the old speeding ticket so she can appeal that instead? What’s the smarter play here? Is there any chance a judge would lower the amount or even toss the whole speeding fine if she isn't technically flagged as a repeat offender, especially if she pays the $167 fine? Or is it better to just refuse to pay anything, wait for the court order, and then appeal everything to drag out the process in hopes of hitting the statute of limitations?

What's the actual practice in cases like this? Just noting, she has no prior driving record before that speeding violation.

Thanks in advance!😁
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#1373 ·
Look, one violation has absolutely nothing to do with another. And honestly, don't hold your breath thinking the court is just going to wave the whole thing away because she already paid for some different ticket... she can definitely file an appeal or lodge a formal protest if she wants, that's her right and all...

The statute of limitations is four years, so it's not like she's likely to see this hanging over her head for that long...
Gregory Watson61 Gregory Watson61 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1374 ·
crimsonsailor7 said:Look, one violation has absolutely nothing to do with another. And honestly, don't hold your breath thinking the court is just going to wave the whole thing away because she already paid for some different ticket... she can definitely file an appeal or lodge a formal protest if she wants, that's her right and all...

The statute of limitations is four years, so it's not like she's likely to see this hanging over her head for that long...

Thanks for the reply!👍
restlessbadger202 restlessbadger202 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2009
#1375 ·
So, a good buddy of mine basically "bumped" some guy's car recently and smashed a headlight. A private settlement would run him about $350, which is steep, so he’s planning to file a claim so his insurance covers the damage. Here’s the kicker: my friend doesn't have a driver's license. He's asking me to go down to the Police Department with him and lie, saying I was actually behind the wheel so he avoids the fine. He swears it won't hurt me at all—just his insurance premiums will take a hit. I want to trust him, but honestly... am I opening myself up to a massive headache here?
thanks
Jamie Howard3 Jamie Howard3 Member
19 messages
joined Jun 2009
#1376 ·
No way.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#1377 ·
The fallout from this could land right on your own shelf, specifically when it comes to your performance bonus
Jamie Howard3 Jamie Howard3 Member
19 messages
joined Jun 2009
#1378 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:The fallout from this could land right on your own shelf, specifically when it comes to your performance bonus

And they can pull your driver's license instead of impounding the car... right?🤷>
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#1379 ·
restlessbadger202 said:So, a good buddy of mine basically "bumped" some guy's car recently and smashed a headlight. A private settlement would run him about $350, which is steep, so he’s planning to file a claim so his insurance covers the damage. Here’s the kicker: my friend doesn't have a driver's license. He's asking me to go down to the Police Department with him and lie, saying I was actually behind the wheel so he avoids the fine. He swears it won't hurt me at all—just his insurance premiums will take a hit. I want to trust him, but honestly... am I opening myself up to a massive headache here?
thanks

but seriously, who do you think ends up getting stuck with the fine if you actually try that?...
Bryan Hughes96 Bryan Hughes96 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1380 ·
Hey there!

I was wondering if anyone knows if a company holding a parking concession actually has the authority to issue a citation if you park right next to their blue-lined spots? I ended up getting a ticket for parking in an unmarked space that was right adjacent to one of their designated stalls. Any thoughts? Thanks.

This happened over in Kansas City with Municipal Parking Authority.

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