Has suffering become a taboo?

masterblaster said:We’re all struggling, aren't we? But lately—it feels like there's this massive pressure to just... be happy. Or at least, to force ourselves to be. What happens if we can't pull that off? Has suffering somehow become something we should feel ashamed of?

I don't know—there's no salvation without a cross to bear, right? To me, struggle—or sacrifice, if you prefer—is just part of the deal. I know it's coming, and I'm not running from it. There's no shame in it. Honestly, those people who seem perfectly happy around here? They belong to a different world entirely. This isn't their place.

Hannah Thompson2 said:Look, I truly believe there’s no salvation without the cross. To me, that means suffering—or sacrifice—is an absolute necessity. It's just part of the deal.

😂

Honestly, I feel like the people who actually find happiness around here aren't even from this dimension—they’re just cosmic travelers who finally found where they belong.

Absolutely, man. No doubt about it. 👍

My absolute favorite, Wild, who stuck by my side through all of high school, once said:
Behind joy and laughter there may be a temperament, coarse, hard and callous. But behind sorrow there is always sorrow. Pain, unlike pleasure, wears no mask.

Bah... I think he was dealing with some issues... behind any kind of sorrow, there's always this deep-seated conflict buried in our own personalities.

shadowgardener12 said:Eh... honestly, I think he was dealing with some stuff... behind sorrow, there’s always a fundamental conflict buried deep within our personality.

🙂

And if you can't wrap your head around why someone is grieving? You're probably just being an asshole.

(Okay, my English isn't exactly Shakespearean 😁 )

😁 however you want 😉

Unless we're talking about actual physical pain, most of this is usually just a bruised ego and a desperate craving for attention. 😁

Balkanijan Pig said:Unless we're talking about actual physical agony, it's usually just a bruised ego and a desperate need for attention.😁

Alright, so I quoted a gay man—let's pivot away from the topic then. 🙄
Oscar Wilde wrote that while he was sitting in prison. If anyone wants to read his entire works, they're available right here

But hey, Pig, what exactly counts as "physical suffering" in your book? Sex? 😁

What defines a guy's orientation? This pretty much explains everything. 🤣

Honestly, sex feels more like a spiritual struggle. Maybe physical too, but on a much deeper level. Nothing messes with your nervous system quite like sex does. 😉
I’d say things similar to physical pain are those external stressors—stuff that hits you from the outside. Like, imagine getting lost in the middle of nowhere and having someone just completely mess with your head. 😁
Basically, anything with an objective cause—things that aren't just a byproduct of our own unfulfilled desires, frustrations, emotions, or mental fantasies. Since nobody can force us into sex, it's something that has to be chosen. 🙂 😁 🥳

masterblaster said:We’re all struggling—it's a given. But lately, it feels like there's this massive pressure to just *be* happy, or at least force it. What happens if we can't? Has suffering become something you have to be ashamed of?

There are some solid sci-fi novels out there where being sick was basically a death sentence. Maybe this hyper-hedonistic culture will come up with its own version: "if you aren't happy (or checked out), you're obsolete."???😕

apop said:😂

Absolutely, 100%! 👍

Are you making fun of all Christians, or just me?

Honestly, there’s nothing more embarrassing than being seen struggling! 😂😂😂

bumbar said:Are you laughing at all Christians, or just me?

I mean, what else am I supposed to laugh at? 😁 I'm just sitting here waiting for you guys to get crucified; Jesus isn't your brother. 😂😂😂😂

apop said:there’s honestly nothing more pathetic than wallowing in misery. 😂😂😂

I guess it just depends on what level you're operating at, right? 🙄

Amanda Evans29 said:What exactly am I supposed to laugh at? 😁 I’m just waiting for you all to face the consequences; Jesus isn't your brother. 😂😂😂😂

You ask what there is to laugh about, yet you're constantly dropping those emojis?

The cross is a symbol,

He is a brother to those who actually live out the Father's will! 🙂

I know you don't see it that way—and look, I'm not going to mock you or laugh at your disbelief—but even if you don't accept Chris, that doesn't mean you should make fun of Him.

Hannah Thompson2 said:You say you're laughing, but then you just keep dropping all these emojis everywhere.

The cross is about symbolism,

He’s a brother to anyone actually doing the Father's will! 🙂

I know you don't buy into this, but I'm not going to mock you for being a skeptic. Just because you don't accept Chris doesn't mean you should make fun of Him.

Look, I'm not mocking Chris. He was a brother to us—what I'm mocking are the dogs who've been clinging to his tail!😂 😂😂

He’s a brother to those who carry out the will of our Heavenly Father...

Don't go thinking I'm the only one convinced I'm right here. Everyone thinks they're in the right, honestly. We all have our own path to walk, our own burdens to carry, and our own mistakes to pay for, but...

Chris is a brother to those who act upon His Will. Or, if you want to get technical, to those who actually possess that Will! 👍

But when you look at the actual facts, all we really know is that Chris was considered a heretic. 🙏
There isn't anything else about him that we can say for certain!
Everything else is just stuff culture cooked up rather than actual truth! 👍

And personally? I value the truth a little bit more than even God does! 👍 😂😂😂
I really hope you can see the distinction between the two—it'll be better for you in the long run! 😂😂

But look, I’ve finally stumbled upon the ultimate truth about Chris, and honestly, this might be the single greatest bit of wisdom you’ll ever encounter in your life—mostly because you don't seem to be the most observant person out there, 😂😂

'Chris wasn't just some guy's dog.' 👍

apop said:I’m not mocking Christ—he was just a man, after all. I’m mocking the dogs who decided to latch onto his tail! 😂😂😂

🙄

apop said:Chris is a brother to those who carry out His Will—or, more accurately, to those who actually *possess* that Will! 👍

But let's be real here—the only thing we truly know about Chris is that he was a heretic. 🙏
We don't "not know" anything else about him!
Everything else? That’s just culture talking, not the truth. 👍

Personally, I tend to value the truth a little more than I value God. 👍 😂😂😂
I hope you can see the distinction between the two—it would be better for you. 😂 😂

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I'm done arguing with you; this whole concept of "Will" is clearly something you just can't grasp.

And honestly, with all these emojis you're throwing around... if you aren't a believer, maybe watch the mockery? You wouldn't want to end up on the wrong side of things. If you can't understand, or simply won't, or just haven't been given the insight—then just stay quiet and try not to be provocative.