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Are we living in the Matrix already?

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Participants Anthony Rodriguez58Alex Rogers96hiddenpuma75ambereagle642Karen Sanchez19mistyraven6Patrick Long62Amanda Evans29copperowl2Jose ReyesElizabeth Miller8hollowtrucker
Anthony Rodriguez58 Anthony Rodriguez58 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Is the Meta documentary actually about our world today, or is it just straight-up sci-fi?
Alex Rogers96 Alex Rogers96 Member
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#2 ·
Most Eastern religions claim we're living in a Matrix, which they refer to as Maya. The only distinction is that the Matrix is a technical innovation, whereas Maya is spiritual.
It is possible to escape from either...
hiddenpuma75 hiddenpuma75 Regular
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#3 ·
It’s quite interesting; a user going by the handle hiddenpuma75 actually brought up a very similar topic over in the strictly academic NATURAL SCIENCES forum that Anthony Rodriguez58 originally started:

That thread barely survived because of all the compromises required. You see, much like a religious mind, a dogmatic scientific one can't really stand it when someone threatens the rigid little box of concepts and worldviews they've tucked themselves—and everything else—into. 😉

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hiddenpuma75 says (as an intro for a science moderator)

Just as a religious person might struggle with discussions about sex—needing constant reassurance that physical intimacy is perfectly natural and not something God is going to strike them down for🙂—similarly, we have to explain to a certain type of "software," namely the scientist, that science isn't just made of calculus, differential equations, and Laplace transforms. It also requires investigating consciousness as the very foundation of everything.

(In other words, we need a new paradigm where consciousness, rather than matter, is the fundamental building block!!)

For science to truly break past its own limits, it needs to become interdisciplinary.

That means starting to consider hypotheses that might initially seem heretical to the standard scientific mind...

So, can we discuss my opening topic from a scientific-technological perspective? Specifically, is it possible that we are living in some kind of hologram—a Matrix, if you will...

...living inside a supercomputer that generates the reality we perceive?

Essentially, we are SimS.😲


And here is the proof for my hypothesis:

I’ve concluded that the single most undeniable scientific and psychological fact shared by everyone on Earth—something no atheist, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or even a hard-boiled Materialist scientist could deny—is this:

We are conscious beings. Because, let's be honest, denying consciousness is a process that happens within consciousness itself.😉


Therefore, we cannot deny or eliminate our own consciousness.

And yet, we have no idea who "switches us on" every single morning.

Who, or what, is the source of our being—our consciousness?

And where were we before our grandparents were even born?

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(Now, that was the intro intended to charm a scientific moderator and attempt to prove that this topic can actually be debated through a scientific-technological lens.)

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But, if I weren't addressing scientists and instead spoke to regular, open-minded people—those who haven't been infected by the usual scientific narrow-mindedness or the fear of looking ignorant by entertaining anything they didn't learn in college—it would look more like this:🙂

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I’m actually quite pleased with how such an elegant idea, woven with deep implications, managed to flow through my little brain "😵 (my internal software)
.

God is a hacker, the universe is her computer, and we are SimS.

Don't you agree that it’s truly strange that we don't know who wakes us up in the morning, or rather, who activates our consciousness?

That we don't know where we were before our grandparents were even born?😕

Ultimately, there is no meaningful difference between us and a SimS.

We live in a hologram—in the Matrix.😲 🙂

Please,

let me know your thoughts, criticisms, comments, or questions...
ambereagle642 ambereagle642 Active Member
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#4 ·
hiddenpuma75 said:SO WE CAN'T EVEN DENY OR ERASE OUR OWN CONSCIOUSNESS

But honestly, we don't even have a clue who—or what—actually flips the switch on us every single morning

Like, what is the actual source of our existence? What is the origin of this consciousness we're stuck with?

That’s exactly where the power and the curse of God—or humanity, if you want to look at it that way—intersect; we know that we exist, but we have absolutely no idea what "we" actually are... we're like an eye that can see everything in the universe except itself.
It actually makes perfect sense when you think about it, because if you consider the Absolute Battle, there’s nothing outside of it to serve as a yardstick, nothing else to measure itself against, like some other hypothetical Battle existing out there...
Everything that tries to understand itself (or thinks it does) isn't the absolute truth, it's just a shadow, a mere reflection of the absolute acting out this blurry, messy mystery of its own desperate hunger for self-knowledge.
And honestly, the wildest part about this whole nonsensical existence is that there isn't even a beginning or an end to any of it...
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#5 ·
It’s possible to escape from either one.

YES, absolutely. But let me add one thing: you, specifically, are the Matrix.🙂

And besides, nobody ever truly escapes anything.😁 😉
Anthony Rodriguez58 Anthony Rodriguez58 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
Karen Sanchez19 said:Yeah, sure, let me just add that you're actually the one living in the Matrix.🙂

And nobody is escaping anything.😁 😉


Care to elaborate? 😕
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#7 ·
Laplace transforms

🙄 🙂

😁

(meaning we need a total paradigm shift where consciousness, not matter, is the foundation of everything!!)

If that were actually the case, scientists would be nothing more than silent observers😉 😁

As if one could simply debate or prove the existence of consciousness through some formula🙄

Consciousness is its own proof😁
mistyraven6 mistyraven6 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Is the Matrix a documentary about our modern world, or just pure sci-fi?

Honestly, I would give anything for even a tiny chance at living in the same universe as Keanu Reeves.
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#9 ·
SO WE CAN'T DENY IT OR ERASE OUR OWN CONSCIOUSNESS

The problem is, consciousness isn't even ours...

Consciousness is simply..

where were we before our grandparents were even born??

"we" is just an illusion... consciousness is reality...

😁

God is a hacker, the universe is her computer, and we are all just SimS

Since when was God female?😲 ???😁
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#10 ·
Does anyone else find it unsettling? The fact that we have absolutely no clue who—or what—actually flips the switch on our consciousness every single morning?


The transition from deep sleep... it feels like a blink. A mere fraction of a second. Why? Because time ceases to exist for us. We only perceive the passage of time through those jarring jumps between dreaming and being awake...

In truth, we never even actually slept...

When you're in that void of dreamless, heavy sleep, there is nothing. Not even the concept of time itself exists in that vacuum...😁
hiddenpuma75 hiddenpuma75 Regular
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#11 ·
Karen Sanchez19 said:Wait, so God is female?😲 ???

Exactly!!!

And her name is Eris!!

Here’s the link and the news confirming it

SENSATIONAL!! God is female and she is called Eris (the prettiest one 🙂
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#12 ·
It’s almost logical when you think about it. The Absolute Battle doesn't have anything else to measure itself against. There is no "other" side, no secondary Battle sitting out there waiting to be compared.
Everything that attempts to know itself—or merely thinks it does—isn't actually absolute. It’s just a shadow. A mere reflection of the absolute, acting as a blurry, mysterious manifestation of its own desperate hunger for self-awareness.
And honestly? That’s the most beautiful part of this existential nonsense: there is no beginning, and there sure as hell isn't an end.

I'm with you on this...

mostly

Explain yourself.


The universe simply is. The absolute simply is...

The absolute is everything...

Why would anyone even need to exit from something?

That supposed "someone" is nothing more than an illusion, along with their imaginary little escape plan.😁
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#13 ·
Exactly!!!

And her name is ERIS!!

Is she even hot?

She ought to be divine-level beautiful😂😳 🙂
Patrick Long62 Patrick Long62 Newcomer
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#14 ·
You know what the real issue is? It isn't actually with legitimate scientists, because modern physics and mathematics have already reached 😲 the point where they fully support the concept of the world being an "illusion."

The problem lies solely with those crowds of "pseudo" intellectuals who learn a tiny bit of theory and suddenly think they’ve mastered everything. They aren't willing to put in the actual work required to grasp just how much science has truly uncovered. And it has come... incredibly far...

So, the conflict isn't really between religion and science. The issue is with the people claiming to represent them—both the scientists and the spiritual leaders who aren't actually doing their jobs (which, if we're being honest, is about 95% of them in both camps)..
Anthony Rodriguez58 Anthony Rodriguez58 Active MemberOP
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#15 ·
mistyraven6 said:I honestly can't imagine sharing the same reality as Keanu Reeves.

Go rob a gas station. 😁
Amanda Evans29 Amanda Evans29 Active Member
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#16 ·
Every seeker found it a long time ago.
There’s no smuggling involved! You can't help anyone perceive what they aren't ready to see!
If someone isn't perceiving, they might as well not even exist!
They’re just a hologram!
Are being a spiritualist and being a scientist actually contradictory concepts?
I'd say "explorer" is the right term. It's all about divide and conquer.
In the movie Matrix, we're really just being reminded of old "truths."
Seriously, let's stop worrying about what nature is doing,
and instead look at what foolish humans are up to:
The grid world—it's like a chip that serves as a microcosm for some crazy American city.
Just look around us: how many vertical and horizontal lines do you see everywhere?
And how many diagonal lines? (Like 45° angles, and don't even get me started on other "angles"!) 🙂
There's this Buddhist text out there: the Book of Matrix, maybe even translated from Japanese into English!
A hologram is basically just a shifted wavefront.
In the beginning, there was water—which is really just a chaos of sinusoids.
Then the waters were organized! And this universe was born, which is nothing but WAVE NATURE!
So, it's fluid!
Our whole argument is that the universe vibrates. But honestly, that’s "still just water!"
Imagine what would happen if that water got disrupted! "There is no spoon!" 👍
It's the total dependency of the mind on matter and vice versa!
Think about the theory of relativity! The conversion of matter into energy and back again! And who is driving that process? The MIND!
The WILL! And those who can't grasp this? They aren't even conscious of it. They are stuck in the Matrix of vertical and horizontal lines! Like a Borg cube!
If we assume there is something that doesn't vibrate—which makes sense, since it wouldn't depend on periodicity (like the cycles of human civilization or circumstances)—then theoretically, it would exist.
Because it is permanent. Because it doesn't vibrate.
Human consciousness is never going to shift in that direction.
People are way too obsessed with what happened yesterday!! 😁
The Absolute does not vibrate; it simply IS!
Alex Rogers96 Alex Rogers96 Member
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#17 ·
Karen Sanchez19 said:Exactly. And I'll just add that you are the Matrix itself.🙂

Nobody escapes anything...😁 😉

You are also your mind. Your mind creates the reality surrounding you. By shifting your mental perspective, you can break through the illusion and grasp the absolute truth.
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#18 ·
You are nothing more than your mind. And that mind? It’s the architect of the reality surrounding you. By shifting your mental 'perception,' you can step outside the veil of Maya and finally 'witness' the absolute truth.

AND WHICH IDIOT thinks they can just waltz out of Maya????

Absolute truth isn't something you can just look at or observe like a spectator at a baseball game.😉
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#19 ·
In all honesty, we never even fell asleep...

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every single seeker found it long ago.

👍

the book of Matrix, maybe even translated from Japanese into English!

And where on earth can one actually find such a book???

the mind's dependency on matter and vice versa!
Relativity theory! The conversion of matter into energy and back again! And who performs this operation? The MIND!


He doesn't just flicker, he exists!)

👍

I suppose I should add:

The mind creates the world (and the physical realm)..

Actually, the mind *is* the world.
But simultaneously, the mind is the Absolute, and it always has been. That is to say, only the Absolute exists.

😲 😁
Amanda Evans29 Amanda Evans29 Active Member
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#20 ·
Enough with all the deep philosophy! Let's get down to some actual, practical reality! 😂

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