quest says:
hollowpilot9, this is seriously, seriously good... uhm, what I mean is, I think 😳 this is incredibly close to my own understanding of how things work. when binary base units join together, they create the four-dimensional space/time continuum and its entire composition. Awesome !! Besides that, the way you link the DNA model to creationism is something I dig—I do similar work myself, though the context is slightly different, but still—it makes sense to me. 👍
Look, if I can summarize this a bit, you’ve arrived at a realization that could be accepted as a model for existence within our known universe. However, we aren't done there because we hit a wall—we're missing the "why"—the reason things are this way and the purpose behind it. And that's where you call upon a creator, someone who holds the keys to that part, and someone we might actually be able to perceive ourselves, given enough progress...
...maybe we disagree here because I’m more inclined to believe there isn't just one supreme creator, but rather that we simply fail to perceive a higher level—the fifth dimension (any thoughts on what that would actually look like?) and then the sixth... because everything that proves the existence of the 4th dimension (space-time) to me suggests that, logically, there must be three, two, or who knows how many other dimensions (1+n). I mean, even Hawking is getting a bit worked up with his speeches about 11-dimensional space...
All I’m trying to say is that I don't see a necessity for introducing a "Creator" figure, and regardless of whether we succeed or fail at putting forward the right theses, we won't have the answer until at least—well, death. And only then will we truly "see." Through some strange logic, my vision actually implies there is a continuation after death (remember that premise about consciousness being spread across the universe?) despite the fact that I deny His existence.
All I can say is that while we strive to uncover the secrets of life and existence, I’ve always been deeply convinced that the greatest truths are the simplest ones, because beauty always follows simplicity. And if anything, my recent insights are confirming exactly that. In fact, my ideas are so simple that I’m often embarrassed to share them, fearing people will dismiss them as—trivial.
hollowpilot9: Thanks for finally giving me a positive response and recognizing what I'm getting at. It’s a vital observation regarding the universal logos of creation, of creation happening at the DNA level. But perhaps that itself isn't quite as sensational as the fact that this creative principle, or logos, extrapolates onto the macro levels of the world. It seems to me the most important thing is to notice that the DNA creative logos exists as a concept in other civilizations too, and then there is Hofstadter's crucial observation in his book Gödel, Escher, Bach, where he reveals the four-fold principle of creation found in the works of Bach, Escher, and Gödel. After that, a series of observations developed showing that the creative logos of DNA is truly universal. My own observations contribute to this as well.
I completely get your point, because the question of MEANING is the core of it all. I don't find any other meaning beyond what we find in the biology of the world: TO BE CREATED, TO LIVE LIFE, TO CREATE—TO ENGINEER A NEW BEING OF THE SAME KIND AND SOMETHING MORE THAN ONESELF. It feels like that is the PURPOSE of everything, including us. Moving toward the origin and realizing a new origin in the future is a crucial realization for the modern age. It represents the maximum reach of anticipating and achieving THE START OF A NEW WORLD AND A NEW HUMANITY. Religion solved this long ago through other mental frameworks: God at the beginning and God at the end. Or, to put it more discursively: Origin at the beginning and Origin at the end.
I distinguish between an anticipated (imagined or predicted) creator, as it seemed to be in the distant past, and the actualized, real creator. In my view, the big problem is that in the interim, the creator has been placed in some sort of extra-territorial position, under the concept of the supernatural, even though the creator has always been real—as real as a human being, like a Pharaoh or Jesus.
Through the mind, man maps out and replicates NATURE in its broadest sense into INFORMATION ABOUT NATURE, while simultaneously developing and demonstrating immense creative ability. Therefore, one can only conclude that the CREATOR is actually MAN evolving toward the ABILITY OF SELF-CREATION, analogous to what we see on the microscopic biological levels. In any case, it's an INNOVATION (there have been various interpretations over the years about how humans are skilled in cosmic affairs, not just earthly ones) because for the first time, it's clearly stated that through evolution, Man and humanity are building a macro-biological entity—a MACRO-ORGANISM that I've tentatively named HOMOTERAS.
When it comes to how we perceive dimensions, most of us stick to that standard Euclidean view—you know, length, width, height—which usually gets broken down like this:
length equals a one-dimensional space
length plus width (a plane) equals a two-dimensional space
length plus width plus height equals volume
Following that logic, trying to wrap your head around a fourth dimension is basically impossible. That’s why Einstein steps in and introduces TIME as the fourth dimension of space, which—honestly—just creates a massive mess. This mess would stay just that—a mess—forever if we hadn't noticed that the POINT itself is what actually dimensions space. So, instead of those old Euclidean definitions, we should probably look at it this way:
Point A is a zero-dimensional point in space
Point B combined with Point A forms a line, or a one-dimensional space
Point C combined with points A and B forms a surface, or a two-dimensional space
Point D combined with points A, B, and C forms volume, or a three-dimensional space
Under this interpretation, the fourth dimension of space is actually the POINT, which defines the fractal element of space (the universe)—the TETRAHEDRON.
Those four points—ABCD—of a tetrahedron define four-dimensional space without needing to drag the "dimension" of time into the conversation. Once you see that, we aren't just talking about 11, 111, or 1111 dimensions; we're looking at an infinite number of dimensions—exactly as many as there are points in the universe. But then again, we’d be talking about simultaneous space, or a holographic universe.
In biology, there are billions of Creator entities, which is something traditional evolutionists seem to completely miss. Creative activity always happens at the level of individual units—the cells within a biological organism, including ourselves. Cells are those entities that create—they build the oak, the shell, the fish, the dog, the eagle, the elephant, the monkey, or the human. If you follow that logic, WE HUMANS ARE THE CELLS CREATING OUR OWN MACRO-BEING, just like any other cell in biology. This is my fundamental starting point for the idea that macroevolution regarding humans and humanity is still moving forward, and that WE HUMANS ARE THE SUBJECTS OF THIS EVOLUTION—meaning, WE ARE THE CREATORS, as evidenced by our creative output. Today, humans are already creating things that were "yesterday" strictly the domain of mysticism and a projected God. Nowadays, Man CREATES atoms, molecules, and life itself. Besides, traditional evolutionists haven't even touched, let alone acknowledged, the fact that a LOWER LEVEL OF BEING CAUSES—CREATES—A HIGHER LEVEL. If that weren't the case, we never would have made it from a single-celled organism to a human. Evolutionists call this "layered" emergence "evolution," driven by environmental and subjective factors like survival of the fittest, natural selection, and mutation. Unlike that explanation, I am talking about the realization that a HIGHER EVOLUTIONARY LEVEL IS THE RESULT OF THE CREATION BY A LOWER EVOLUTIONARY LEVEL. So, our cells, as a lower level, create us as their higher level, and we, as a LOWER LEVEL, CREATE OUR OWN HIGHER LEVEL—a new macrobiological being, a new macro-cosmic being: *Homo sapiens*.
You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT when you say "the greatest truths are the simplest because that's how it's always been, and what is most beautiful is also the simplest." You just have to approach it, and once a person realizes that, the barriers vanish. Ultimately, everyone—especially scientists and philosophers—should realize that the formula or truth of existence is as simple as any other natural law. Many people fall for the claims of incompetent or overly specialized scientists who argue that grasping natural formulas requires a highly trained, academic mind. That’s obviously wrong. The reality is that all essential formulas—the truths of physics, chemistry, and biology—are extremely simple, not complex.
I constantly say that micro-scientists have drifted into scientific fantasy and mythology, while the TRUTHS are sitting right under their noses, completely ignored. So, don't hesitate to share your "trivial" insights. One massive area of "trivialization" is QUANTUM PHYSICS, where people try to elevate quantum perception to macroscopic levels. We walk, sleep, live, move, and think quantumly; our optical perception is quantum; our regeneration is quantum... and so on.
I’m glad you picked this specific paragraph as an "example" of something positive—because honestly, being able to distinguish between pure science and applied science is absolutely vital if we want to crawl out of the "intellectual hole" modern scientists from these tiny micro-worlds are digging for us. Things that are invisible or remain unknown have always belonged to the realms of mysticism and mythology. That’s why it’s practically mandatory that insights from the microscopic level be scaled up to a visible macro level; otherwise, the mythology of science might just drag us straight into a modern-day scientific religion. We’re basically living in a display case of ultimate contradictions. On one hand, we’re diving deep into the microelectronic world of chips and nanotechnology, while on the other, we’re pushing into massive worlds like the Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Titan, the Sun (a star), and entire galaxies...
The average person doesn't have the slightest clue about the first one, yet the second is right there in plain sight... It leaves them confused: What is all this actually for?
Modern applied science seems determined to force us to stare at plasma-filled TV and computer screens for hours on end—staring at pure fiction, at non-existence, at illusions... None of this is accidental. Instead of explaining the purpose behind it all, scientists and philosophers are increasingly retreating into various formalisms and delusions. This is a reality of the modern world that we really need to start talking about.
If you're interested in the underlying infrastructure of this way of thinking, shoot me a DM and I'll send over something pretty fascinating.
