What matters more for spiritual growth?

Lawrence Garcia93 said:Honestly, you people have talked so much nonsense on here that I’m officially tapped out.
If you actually want any kind of spiritual growth, you FIRST have to strip away all the garbage and the rigid dogmas they've been shoving down our throats for years.
Only then can you be truly cleansed and open.
That is how you actually find the right path.

God, Lawrence Garcia93... I've known that for years, but I could never quite put it into words that simply. Seriously, props to you!

velvetpilot212 said:you're one of those people acting all high and mighty about Europe, thinking you gotta swap out real food like cheese and sausage for some random pills or whatever. I see you, kid. You really think eating pills is gonna fix the potholes? They need to pave the roads and get the cars all the way out to rural Montana first.

honestly, this summer I'm just scraping by😁
it's over,

and man, we used to be the gold standard back when even they didn't know what they wanted😁

like, you totally missed the point—just another victim of instant diets and instant tech😁

When people say emotions, they usually mean stuff like anger, rage, or pure joy... basically everything sitting under those first three levels of human development.
Real feelings don't even kick in until you hit the fourth level and beyond. We're talking empathy, feeling one with everything, devotion, that deep cosmic kind of love...

Working on actual feelings only starts after you reach that fourth center. Until then, you're just dealing with basic emotions—not really growing them, just trying to learn how to distance yourself from them.
The whole quality of your thoughts pretty much depends on how centered you are in one of those consciousness centers.

But I guess that’s probably not why you were asking...

but I feel like there's actually something to be learned there,

so, like, you gotta move through those first three stages just to cultivate the next three in your system.

🤔 😕

what about a little bit of sadness though?

sadness, I mean,
where does that fit in?
you didn't even mention it?

Man, you guys have talked so much crap here that I’m basically done talking altogether.
To actually grow spiritually, you gotta FIRST dump all the garbage and dogmas they've been shoving down our throats for years.
Then, once you're all cleared out and open...
that's when you find the real path.

I don't know, maybe not quite,
all this stuff they feed you,
if you use it smart enough,
it can actually help you out,

Could you say a bit more about how you reach that Feeling? Is it because of a certain mindset, or does the feeling come first and trigger everything else?

Yeah...
relying on a "feeling" of faith is kind of a losing game,

since it's just an emotion; it doesn't really last,

but you definitely know when you "feel" it.