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Participants Maria Thomas9cosmictrucker132hollowviper72Carol Wilson14Frank Mendoza8Jeffrey Taylor3stormycyclist13Jacob BaileyLarry Lewis2
Maria Thomas9 Maria Thomas9 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Sep 2003
#1 ·
t r a g o v i p r o š l o s t i

how do I get rid of them?

how can I help someone move on after she went all-in for some guy who just didn't deserve her—or maybe he did, but let’s be real, he was DEFINITELY not on her level, spiritually or intellectually?

I know, I know... you're gonna tell me, "just show her you're better than him, show her you can offer more"... and trust me, I AM going to do that! But is there any way to fast-track this besides just waiting for time to pass and slowly building up trust? Is there a shortcut to make her stop obsessing over the past so she can finally step into a bright future (with me 😎) instead?
cosmictrucker132 cosmictrucker132 Member
27 messages
joined Apr 2004
#2 ·
Show her you're better than him—show her you have more to offer.
hollowviper72 hollowviper72 Regular
268 messages
joined May 2004
#3 ·
There’s no such thing as a quick fix if that person isn't truly ready to embrace change and start healing. We can’t just wave a magic wand and erase the scars from a past we didn't even cause. Our role—as their friends—is simply to make that journey a little less grueling by offering support, genuine empathy, and the kind of patience that actually allows a person to grow and move forward.
I’ve always felt that people are somewhat like plants. If you provide them with plenty of sunlight, clean water, and nutrient-rich soil to take root in, they’ll flourish. But if you deprive them of those basics? Well, most people will develop "thorns" as a defense mechanism; their fruit becomes bitter, and their potential stays buried in the dark. Of course, life is rarely that black and white, but you get my point.
Just as you can't force a flower to bloom prematurely, you can't rush a human being through the aftermath of their own personal winters. 🙂

So, please, have patience. As the saying goes, patience is the hallmark of the wise. 🙂
Maria Thomas9 Maria Thomas9 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Sep 2003
#4 ·
cosmictrucker132 said:Look, you've gotta show her you're better than that guy—show her you can actually provide what he couldn't.

Man, I know... I really do. And honestly? I truly, deeply believe I *am* better than him. She even gives me these little hints, like she’s indirectly admitting it, you know? But the problem is, he's still lingering in the back of her mind somewhere. It's like his ghost is sitting right there at the table with us.

Thanks for getting back to me. I get that trust is built over time and love just grows naturally, but I'm struggling here. Is there any way to speed up that process—to make her open up (and by "open up," I mean... well, you know exactly what I'm talking about 😁 ) FAST? 🤔
Carol Wilson14 Carol Wilson14 Member
22 messages
joined Apr 2004
#5 ·
Maria Thomas9, I feel like you're totally 😎
just go ahead and be 😎
and honestly, what even is a shortcut??? everything is just relative if you think about it
anyway, wishing you nothing but the best, just enjoy the ride.... or maybe hurry up slowly, but keep it chill 😎
Frank Mendoza8 Frank Mendoza8 Newcomer
9 messages
joined May 2003
#6 ·
Look, you're going to have a hard time getting rid of them...

You can be the absolute best version of yourself, but if she hasn't moved past that guy, man—it’s all for nothing.
I know from experience.
Jeffrey Taylor3 Jeffrey Taylor3 Member
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joined Dec 2003
#7 ·
Flowers have to wither before anything new can bloom...
Maria Thomas9 Maria Thomas9 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Sep 2003
#8 ·
Frank Mendoza8 said:Look, you can be the absolute greatest version of yourself, but if she hasn't totally gotten over that guy yet—man, forget it—it’s all for nothing. Everything just falls apart.
I know this because I've lived it.

So, why haven't you moved on from him yet?

The way I see it—and honestly, this is just my two cents—is that it's probably because you haven't met someone (or maybe they haven't found you yet) who actually proves there's something better out there than what you're used to. Maybe you just haven't run into that one person who's actually capable of overshadowing the one who was not worthy of me...
Frank Mendoza8 Frank Mendoza8 Newcomer
9 messages
joined May 2003
#9 ·
Maria Thomas9 said:But why haven't you gotten over him?

I honestly think it's because you haven't met someone yet (or maybe someone hasn't found you) who can prove there’s actually something better out there than what you're used to. Maybe you just haven't crossed paths with the person capable of overshadowing the one who was not worthy of me...


It's complicated... it isn't really about how I would put it...
Let's just strip it down to the absolute basics.
When you're head over heels for someone, and you've given them an entire year of your life, being totally devoted—you'd do anything for them. There's nobody else in the world. You know, those typical romantic highs, and then that person just absolutely destroys you. It's crushing. Everything just turns to ash.
And then love just curdles into pure resentment. You end up losing faith in everyone of the opposite sex. And it takes time to recover from that.

So, here's the real question—how much time has passed for her since that guy? If it's only been a few months, you really have to watch your step.
But if she's already moved on with someone else, and it's been a year or more, then you actually have a real shot at this. Because time heals... well, somewhat, and the rest is up to you. But if this is all still fresh, you won't be able to fight against the ghosts of her past, no matter how kind and caring you are, even if you were Mother Theresa herself.
It's messy, but that's just how it works. There's always going to be that one person who breaks our hearts even though we love them, and then there's the person who is just too perfect—but they aren't THE one....

At least, that's how it played out in my own life.

Though, I'll let you in on a little secret at the end of all this: I've actually been in both positions—trying to forget someone and trying to help someone else forget.
And in both cases, everything I just said turned out to be true.

I'm rooting for you. Help her believe in love again. She needs someone who is willing to put in the work!👍 👋
Maria Thomas9 Maria Thomas9 MemberOP
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joined Sep 2003
#10 ·
Frank Mendoza8 said:It’s complicated... it’s not just about how you would put it...
let’s strip this down to the absolute basics.
When you’re head over heels for someone—like, you’ve given them every single ounce of yourself for a year, you’d do anything for them, they’re basically your entire universe, you know those massive romantic highs?—and then that person absolutely guts you. Just total heartbreak. Everything turns to ash.
And suddenly, love morphs into pure hatred. You start looking at every single guy out there like they’re all garbage. And man, it takes a hell of a long time to bounce back from that.

So, here’s the real question—how much time has passed for her since that guy? If it’s only been a few months, you seriously need to watch your step.
But if she’s already moved on to someone else, and it’s been a year or more since the breakup, then yeah, you actually have a fighting chance.
At least, that’s how it went down in my book.
Actually, I’ll let you in on a little secret at the end of all this: I’ve been in both spots—trying to forget someone while also being the one helping someone else forget their ex.
And in both cases, everything I just said turned out to be spot on.

I’m crossing my fingers for you; go bring her faith in love back. She needs someone who’s actually willing to put in the work!👍 👋

You’ve pretty much nailed the diagnosis...

She’s complaining about, well, exactly what you said—that whole "all men are the same" thing... I can see that she wants to believe me, that she wants to throw herself into this, but that lingering fear from what happened before is still holding her back...

Is there any other way, besides just waiting for time to pass, to speed up her forgetting Him (since, as she says herself—and she's not even saying it out of spite—he was the one who was not worthy of me)?

How did you manage to move past your former guy and turn toward your future one?
If you could do a bit of soul-searching and then lay it out for us here? 🙂
stormycyclist13 stormycyclist13 Active Member
72 messages
joined Apr 2004
#11 ·
Frank Mendoza8 said:Look, getting rid of them isn't easy...

You can be the absolute best version of yourself, truly. But if she hasn't moved past that guy? Well, damn. Everything you do just falls apart.
I know from experience.


I second that..
It is what it is..
😢
Frank Mendoza8 Frank Mendoza8 Newcomer
9 messages
joined May 2003
#12 ·
Alright, I’ll give it a shot, though I don't want to make things sound more promising than they actually are. I wouldn't want to let you down. Honestly, when I was trying to HELP her get over her ex, I didn't quite succeed—mostly because the breakup was still pretty fresh, and since I was basically the first girl she turned to after it happened, I ended up venting about it here quite a bit. Things are fine now, but that’s not really what we’re talking about.
And as for me... self-analysis, huh? I guess I can try...
So, look, we were together for about nine months. Everything was perfect, and then—BAM. Over. For a bunch of different reasons, he turned out to be a complete jerk. I was just totally crushed. I remember thinking, "I am NEVER falling in love like this again," and honestly, screw all of them...
I took a four-month mental health break where my girlfriends constantly comforted me and tried to convince me that life wasn't ending. In the meantime, I tried dating someone else once, but it just wasn't it. Wrong person, plain and simple. Then summer rolled around. Everything feels better in the summer. And then there was this guy... Someone who still means a lot to me, even if it's just as a friend, since we aren't a couple anymore... the distance between us just made it impossible...
He was so understanding about everything. He sat through all my identity crises and listened to me rant about how men are trash, and he actually talked me down from those rants. He did these little sweet things for me... he realized I have a soft spot for romance, so he put in the effort, but most importantly—he didn't push. He took it slow, stayed by my side, and then pulled back just a tiny bit... so I wouldn't lose interest. Because, let's be real, we women are weird creatures and you have to handle us carefully—if you give too much too soon or act too "perfect" right at the start, you aren't interesting anymore. Later on, being that way is what matters.
Anyway, we played those little games of cat and mouse, and everyone started noticing that I was finally coming out of my shell. With him, I actually managed to forget about the one who was not worthy of me. We were together for two months and it was lovely. If it weren't for the distance, maybe I would have fallen for him. I was happy; I realized there are still decent people left in this world and I felt ready to love again. The fact that I haven't fully moved on yet is just a messy mix of bad timing. Or maybe I'm just lazy.
If you had to boil all of this down into a recipe or some kind of takeaway, it would be this:
1) Patience really is the most important thing.
2) Honesty is everything during this stage. You have to tell her you care, and do whatever it takes to prove you aren't HIM—that you're unique and a BETTER person.
3) Little gestures of affection when she least expects them can go a long way.
4) Be careful not to be "too nice" to the point of being clingy; give her space to breathe.
5) Ultimately, time will tell, but putting in the work usually pays off.

Just a little warning before I wrap up—like I said, if she hasn't gotten over him, there isn't much you can do. Not everyone moves on easily.
My (now former) boyfriend, for example, has built up this wall. It's not that he doesn't want her, it's just that he doesn't want anyone else either. Not even me. At least, not as a girlfriend. But we are friends. We're honest with each other, and I don't regret it. I know I helped him a little bit, and I know what he's going through. This is where the most important part comes in—UNDERSTANDING and EMPATHY.
I really hope it works out for you. Even the fact that you're trying to figure out how to do this shows that you care, and that counts for something. Hang in there and don't give up. I'll keep my fingers crossed!
Jacob Bailey Jacob Bailey Newcomer
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joined Apr 2004
#13 ·
Moving on is such a difficult process, isn't it? I guess there aren't really any set rules for it. For some people, it might take a month or two, while for others, it could be years. It probably just depends on someone's personality, how long the relationship lasted, and all that stuff. In any case, I suppose it takes time for both sides. And honestly, who has the time to rush it? If you try to push things too hard during that period—even if you don't truly believe you can ever fully forget certain things—you're basically just scoring an own goal. I think the most important thing is to stay cool and not be overbearing, just letting the other person realize when the timing is right. If you're too aggressive or try too hard, I guess you won't achieve anything at all. Just be yourself, but maybe don't let them think you'll be happy just being "great friends" again. Simply show her that you're interested, and then give her the space to process everything and decide what she wants to do. It’s perfectly fine if she wants to take things slow; it actually shows she isn't just looking for something superficial. If she's truly special to you, I guess it's worth waiting a little bit. It will pay off!
Larry Lewis2 Larry Lewis2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2004
#14 ·
Just one🙂

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