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Why do "natural" laws still apply even when we don't know they exist?

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Rebecca Cox2 Rebecca Cox2 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Why is it that we instinctively respect "natural" laws—like physics or thermodynamics—even without understanding them, yet we constantly disregard the laws found in God's revelation (the Bible)? Even for believers who hear them preached daily by pastors or study them every week in service, the disconnect remains.

Why are God's "natural laws" designed so that breaking them results in immediate consequences, whether through sudden accident or a slow decline?

In contrast, one can seemingly ignore Jehovah's and Christ's laws with total impunity, since the penalty isn't deferred until the "second, eternal life."

So—what do you all think?
Jack Harris3 Jack Harris3 Regular
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#2 ·
Because natural laws are just that—natural. They’re baked right into our DNA, part of our very foundation... 😁
The other kind? Well, they aren't even close to being natural. They're barely even real...
It's like living under a layer of synthetic plastic laws. Completely impenetrable, and there's no way to break them down through any organic means.
🙂

Now, I can already hear 😁Jack Harris3 starting to tear into me...
mistyfox812 mistyfox812 Regular
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#3 ·
Look, we’re talking about two totally different things here.
That whole idea that nature follows "laws" basically stems from the mindset of a monotheistic God—this Creator and Lawgiver figure who's treated just like some earthly king who hands down the rules.
In my opinion, ancient civilizations didn't see nature as having "laws." They saw it as necessity.
There’s this stuff by John Needham, where he was digging into Chinese natural science and wondering what would've happened if they never used that "law" metaphor. He tells this one story about how, back in the Middle Ages, animals born with deformities were seen as being punished for breaking "divine" laws (which is basically what we call "natural" laws today).
Eric Wells3 Eric Wells3 Active Member
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#4 ·
Furthermore, if one takes the time to actually examine the Bible, one finds upwards of 150 distinct contradictions scattered throughout its pages. From such an observation, there are really only two logical conclusions one can possibly draw: either the Bible was composed by fallible human beings, or God is intellectually limited in His capacity 😁
mistyfox812 mistyfox812 Regular
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So, the whole idea of 'nature' (physis) in philosophy—not like how we use it today, but the actual deep stuff—really starts popping up alongside the concept of 'law' (nomos) in Greek works. You had these Sophists constantly tripping over themselves asking: is this just how things are naturally, or is it just because of some rule? It’s wild. For them, a 'natural law' was basically as unchangeable as a block of wood.

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