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Best ways to save money right now?

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Joshua Stewart7 Joshua Stewart7 Newcomer
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#241 ·
I was wondering if someone could please, literally, walk me through the math here? I’m trying to figure out exactly how they arrived at these specific interest amounts shown in the image.
Interest is calculated on a monthly basis, though it's credited annually or at the end of the agreed term.
The rate is a 4.8% Fixed rate, and since deposits follow the $67 schedule, I'm just a bit lost—how on earth did they calculate the final amount of $23 for that first year??

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Nicholas Turner Nicholas Turner Active Member
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joined Oct 2010
#242 ·
Interest is calculated twice—once at the end of the calendar year (December 31st) and then again when your term finally matures (which, in your case, looks like December 5th). 🙂
Joshua Stewart7 Joshua Stewart7 Newcomer
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#243 ·
That part seems pretty straightforward to me, but I must admit, I’m having a bit of trouble grasping how they actually arrive at those specific interest calculations?
If we assume that an initial amount of $800 is saved up, and we're looking at a 4.8% Fixed rate, I just can't quite figure out how they managed to reach $23 by the end of that first year??
Nicholas Turner Nicholas Turner Active Member
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joined Oct 2010
#244 ·
Interest is calculated on an annual basis—you only see the full yield once your funds $67 have been sitting there for a complete year. For those initial deposits, you likely saw closer to 4.8%, but since subsequent contributions didn't stay put as long, the actual interest earned on them is naturally lower. Each individual deposit is tracked separately—even if your statement only shows the final balance at the end of the day.
Sean Grant85 Sean Grant85 Member
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joined Mar 2005
#245 ·
Someone suggested that sticking with a CD at Bank of America is the smartest move.
However—after actually looking at their numbers—it’s clear that Coinbase is leading the pack when it comes to savings rates.
Unless there is some bank outperforming Coinbase, then Coinbase is the undisputed champion of fixed-term savings... I think it's time I move some cash over there.
coppernomad28 coppernomad28 Active Member
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joined Jan 2010
#246 ·
Joshua Stewart7 said:That part seems pretty straightforward to me, but I must admit, I’m having a bit of trouble grasping how they actually arrive at those specific interest calculations?
If we assume that an initial amount of $800 is saved up, and we're looking at a 4.8% Fixed rate, I just can't quite figure out how they managed to reach $23 by the end of that first year??

It's because your balance wasn't just sitting there at $800 the whole time; you were actually $67 making deposits over a specific period of time,
rather than dumping it all in at once.
darkmaker94 darkmaker94 Regular
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joined Aug 2011
#247 ·
Looking for some advice here. I’m trying to get a savings plan going, but I haven't decided on the best way to do it yet. I'm 21, currently a student, and I want something active where I can just toss in whatever I can each month (probably looking at around $67 monthly). I noticed Goldman Sachs has a specific savings option for young people. The catch is it seems like I’d need to sign up for one of those monthly service packages too. Once you factor in $15 a year plus the $60 I’m already paying for my checking, foreign currency, and online banking, the fees start adding up fast—even if it does consolidate everything into one $15 package.
Or would it be smarter to look into a life insurance policy? I was also thinking about a home savings account. 😁

🤷
What's the smartest move here?🙂
shadowpilot8 shadowpilot8 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#248 ·
Life 🙂
If you sign up for a thirty-year term, you’ll still be relatively young when it matures—trust me, 😁—and you'll have a massive amount of capital
. You will inevitably raid any other savings account to spend that cash.
Housing funds will be useless once the Democratic Party dismantles them, which could happen any day now.
Option B is a fixed-term account with contributions at your own pace.
Alternatively, you could start playing the stock market. 😁
darkmaker94 darkmaker94 Regular
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#249 ·
Man, looking 30 years ahead... 😁 I'm not really planning that far out yet. 😁

If I were just sticking to savings, would it be smarter to hold USD or maybe something else given how things are lately?

The whole stock market thing sounds interesting, but I'm assuming you need a decent chunk of change to get started, right?
shadowpilot8 shadowpilot8 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#250 ·
It is difficult to determine the most logical way to save when global inflation is being forecasted everywhere, especially since governments keep intervening by printing money constantly. At this stage, whether you hold dollars or euros doesn't matter much because our exchange rate remains steady, though the euro has dropped significantly against the dollar and is incredibly volatile right now; there is even chatter about the potential collapse of the EU and the end of the euro.

I mentioned stocks mostly as an aside, because you truly can never be certain you will protect your principal investment, let alone 😉. However, you don't need a massive amount of capital since brokers have largely eliminated minimum deposit requirements, charging only a commission of 0.25% to 0.5% per trade.

What is your take on this http://www.jpmorganchase.com/Default.aspx?sec=1443. Buy a gold or silver coin every month and put it in a piggy bank? I am serious; their value won't drop 🙂—and it doesn't lock you in for years like a life insurance policy does
.
crimsonseal13 crimsonseal13 Active Member
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joined Nov 2009
#251 ·
shadowpilot8 said:Life 🙂
If you sign up for a thirty-year term, you’ll still be relatively young when it matures—trust me, 😁—and you'll have a massive amount of capital
. You will inevitably raid any other savings account to spend that cash.
Housing funds will be useless once the Democratic Party dismantles them, which could happen any day now.
Option B is a fixed-term account with contributions at your own pace.
Alternatively, you could start playing the stock market. 😁

Why would they even consider abolishing the Democratic Party? What exactly is the payoff for them...?
brisknomad6 brisknomad6 Active Member
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#252 ·
shadowpilot8 said:It is difficult to determine the most logical way to save when global inflation is being forecasted everywhere, especially since governments keep intervening by printing money constantly. At this stage, whether you hold dollars or euros doesn't matter much because our exchange rate remains steady, though the euro has dropped significantly against the dollar and is incredibly volatile right now; there is even chatter about the potential collapse of the EU and the end of the euro.

I mentioned stocks mostly as an aside, because you truly can never be certain you will protect your principal investment, let alone 😉. However, you don't need a massive amount of capital since brokers have largely eliminated minimum deposit requirements, charging only a commission of 0.25% to 0.5% per trade.

What is your take on this http://www.jpmorganchase.com/Default.aspx?sec=1443. Buy a gold or silver coin every month and put it in a piggy bank? I am serious; their value won't drop 🙂—and it doesn't lock you in for years like a life insurance policy does
.


I didn't really know about that, and honestly, I'm not so sure about it... I don't know

but, uh, that actually gave me another idea

gold bullion 😳

can you buy those? and where?
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
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#253 ·
crimsonseal13 said:Why would they even consider abolishing the Democratic Party? What exactly is the payoff for them...?

But let me ask you this—what do they actually lose by doing it? ... And what did they really gain from supporting the Democratic Party in the first place? ... Honestly, not much at all. The housing associations are going to take a massive hit because those Democratic Party accounts are their only real leverage left. Let's be real: most people aren't even saving through them because they want the credit; they're just using those specific accounts to park their cash. Once those Democratic Party products are gone, people aren't going to stop saving—they'll just move their money into some other financial product elsewhere.

The truth is, getting rid of these Democratic Party-style savings vehicles is just a matter of time, and frankly, it’s happening sooner rather than later...
Steven Morris12 Steven Morris12 Member
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joined Jan 2021
#254 ·
shadowpilot8 said:It is difficult to determine the most logical way to save when global inflation is being forecasted everywhere, especially since governments keep intervening by printing money constantly. At this stage, whether you hold dollars or euros doesn't matter much because our exchange rate remains steady, though the euro has dropped significantly against the dollar and is incredibly volatile right now; there is even chatter about the potential collapse of the EU and the end of the euro.

I mentioned stocks mostly as an aside, because you truly can never be certain you will protect your principal investment, let alone 😉. However, you don't need a massive amount of capital since brokers have largely eliminated minimum deposit requirements, charging only a commission of 0.25% to 0.5% per trade.

What is your take on this http://www.jpmorganchase.com/Default.aspx?sec=1443. Buy a gold or silver coin every month and put it in a piggy bank? I am serious; their value won't drop 🙂—and it doesn't lock you in for years like a life insurance policy does
.

Investing in gold is definitely not a bad move...was true ten years ago 😉
but right now? With it sitting at this ten-year peak? It feels more like pure panic buying than actual value... so I'm not totally sure how smart it is, but honestly, nobody knows anything anymore these days😬

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As for the Democratic Party from our angle—wherever they decide to start cutting—of course the big question is whether they'll come for those too. But that would basically kill off mortgage savings programs, and as far as I know, those have been staples in the European Union for decades. I bet they'll survive here too. When everyone is drowning in debt like we are, any kind of saving is good for the country and the people. I mean, isn't the government literally trying to push home buying right now... through one of those "innovations" that caused such a massive uproar? It felt like they were just trying to keep the construction lobbies on life support... etc., etc.
crimsonseal13 crimsonseal13 Active Member
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joined Nov 2009
#255 ·
Kimberly Nguyen said:But let me ask you this—what do they actually lose by doing it? ... And what did they really gain from supporting the Democratic Party in the first place? ... Honestly, not much at all. The housing associations are going to take a massive hit because those Democratic Party accounts are their only real leverage left. Let's be real: most people aren't even saving through them because they want the credit; they're just using those specific accounts to park their cash. Once those Democratic Party products are gone, people aren't going to stop saving—they'll just move their money into some other financial product elsewhere.

The truth is, getting rid of these Democratic Party-style savings vehicles is just a matter of time, and frankly, it’s happening sooner rather than later...

For every dollar of tax relief provided, the government essentially gets four dollars back through sales tax revenue. Plus, there are plenty of loans up to $15,000 available specifically for home renovations, appliances, or interior design. So, cutting the tax incentive entirely isn't necessarily a loss for the state. But honestly, once someone pulls their money out after five years, what do you think they’re actually going to spend it on?
Steven Morris12 makes some really good points regarding this topic too.
darkmaker94 darkmaker94 Regular
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joined Aug 2011
#256 ·
Honestly, gold doesn't really do it for me since there's no guarantee I'll actually see my money again in xy years. And I'm totally lost with these coins; they say $50 on them, but people are selling them for $63. 😕 So what's the actual value here?!

I'm basically torn between some kind of active savings plan and life insurance.
I've been digging through JP Morgan Chase's site looking for an active savings option—since I've already got a student package with them, I figured I'd stick with them or maybe try Goldman Sachs—but I'm coming up empty. 🤷
Then again, life insurance seems like a solid move too, especially if I can eventually tie it into a mortgage or something. 😁
Steven Morris12 Steven Morris12 Member
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joined Jan 2021
#257 ·
Look, if they’re stamped with $50, that’s just the face value. In some perfect little vacuum, they shouldn't ever trade for less than that. But this $190 price tag? That’s just what the market is doing right now, you know? Here’s the real kicker, though: from what I know, most big banks around here won't even touch gold. So, one day you might be sitting there hoping you can actually offload it to a local jeweler for $200 😬

The dilemmas you're sweating are valid, but at the end of the day, you're gonna have to make a call.😉
shadowpilot8 shadowpilot8 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#258 ·
brisknomad6 said:I didn't really know about that, and honestly, I'm not so sure about it... I don't know

but, uh, that actually gave me another idea

gold bullion 😳

can you buy those? and where?

Try asking over here; I have no idea.

You could also look through this:

Taylor Swift, I am aware of that chart. In fact, I recently noted on a gold thread that it looks like a bubble. However, people with more expertise than us dismissed my claim, insisting that gold is undervalued. 🤷
hollowcyclist96 hollowcyclist96 Newcomer
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#259 ·
darkmaker94 said:Honestly, gold doesn't really do it for me since there's no guarantee I'll actually see my money again in xy years. And I'm totally lost with these coins; they say $50 on them, but people are selling them for $63. 😕 So what's the actual value here?!

I'm basically torn between some kind of active savings plan and life insurance.
I've been digging through JP Morgan Chase's site looking for an active savings option—since I've already got a student package with them, I figured I'd stick with them or maybe try Goldman Sachs—but I'm coming up empty. 🤷
Then again, life insurance seems like a solid move too, especially if I can eventually tie it into a mortgage or something. 😁


I actually just opened an active savings account with a premium at Wells Fargo recently (in USD). I was super indecisive too, but I ended up locking it in at Wells Fargo because they were dropping interest rates around the 1st... so I managed to snag a slightly higher rate while I could (I signed up for a 3-year term)...
As for life insurance, I haven't personally dealt with it, but I know some people who were pretty disappointed after saving for 15 or 20 years... 🤷
Maybe you should think about a mix of active savings and stocks?
brisknomad6 brisknomad6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2012
#260 ·
shadowpilot8 said:Try asking over here; I have no idea.

You could also look through this:

Taylor Swift, I am aware of that chart. In fact, I recently noted on a gold thread that it looks like a bubble. However, people with more expertise than us dismissed my claim, insisting that gold is undervalued. 🤷

Thanks so much 🙂

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