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Best ways to save money right now?

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Brian Jackson39 Brian Jackson39 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#21 ·
I actually looked into this kind of long-term saving strategy myself recently. It turns out you can pull some decent interest rates through high-yield savings accounts. You should give it a shot—though, I know from experience, it’s incredibly tough to resist the urge to just spend it all.
urbanranger18 urbanranger18 Member
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joined Apr 2007
#22 ·
Brian Jackson39 said:I was actually looking into that kind of long-term saving strategy recently. It turns out the best interest rates are actually sitting in standard checking accounts right now. You should give that a shot, though I totally get how hard it can be to resist spending it all!

Wait, what are you even talking about? Seriously, the interest on a basic checking account is like 0.5% a year. A checking account isn't really "saving" in any meaningful way.
wanderingscout13 wanderingscout13 Member
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joined Nov 2006
#23 ·
slydrifter39 said:Even though I’m quite well-versed in investment funds, I wouldn't suggest anyone jump into this unless they're prepared to actually hit the books first and commit to checking in on things at least once a week.

Well, honestly, if you aren't going to dig into the fundamentals of how these funds work and stay on top of the performance regularly, what's even the point? It's just reckless! That said, let's be real: most funds really only carry one major risk—the possibility that the share value drops and investors lose a chunk of their principal. But look, she won't end up facing the same financial disaster her parents did. In fact, I've come to realize that uninvested cash often carries an even higher risk! Think about it: it's sitting there vulnerable to impulsive shopping sprees, those "once-in-a-lifetime" scams, or even those "friends" and relatives who suddenly show up with their hands out...
Maybe a good starting point would be putting a little something into a diversified mutual fund. If I were giving advice, I'd say take some time to study the fund's performance charts. You definitely want to steer clear of anything with massive, erratic swings in value—you know, those jagged, sawtooth-looking lines on the graph.
Mark Sullivan62 Mark Sullivan62 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#24 ·
What I’m really curious about—since I tend to get a few extra windfalls here and there throughout the year—is whether there's a way to save where I can just dump in whatever I can whenever the cash hits my account, while also chipping away at it with some small monthly contributions just to keep the momentum going, so the pile grows steadily over time. Is that even a thing people do here in the States?
Thanks.

Yeah, it exists, but it's basically just throwing money into a sock. 🙏
Brian Jackson39 Brian Jackson39 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#25 ·
urbanranger18 said:What are you even talking about? Interest on checking accounts is basically peanuts at 0.5% annually. Checking isn't savings.

At JP Morgan Chase, it’s sitting at 0.8%.
I get where you're coming from, but I’m not talking about fixed-term CDs here. I mean a way to save where you contribute, say, $167 every single month. You can't exactly lock that money into a CD if you're adding to it constantly.
And frankly, as far as I know, that kind of flexible saving account with decent interest rates just doesn't exist in this market.
Sure, there are decent funds—maybe some bond funds or something relatively low-risk—but the real question is whether those actually hold up as a solid investment over, say, a 15-year stretch.
Have you considered looking into life insurance products? It provides coverage while building cash value over several years, essentially functioning as a long-term savings vehicle.
Casey Bennett2 Casey Bennett2 Member
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joined Nov 2006
#26 ·
Dennis Mitchell2 said:Hey everyone, I could really use some advice.
I'm 30 and want to start putting money aside for long-term savings—something I can build up over the next 30 years. I'm not interested in those retirement fund accounts, and I can't commit to high monthly insurance premiums because my salary isn't great. (Side note: I’m staying far away from those types of plans because my parents signed up for one, hit a rough patch, couldn't cover the back payments, and ended up losing $1,500 down the drain.)
What I'm looking for is something flexible. Since I get extra cash a few times a year, I'd like an option where I can dump in extra whenever I have it, while just chipping in small amounts monthly. Does anything like that exist here in the States?
Thanks.

You should look into open-ended savings accounts at JP Morgan Chase; I'm pretty sure other major banks offer similar stuff.

The interest rates are basically the same as a standard CD, but you have the freedom to deposit whenever and however much you want. Interest is calculated based on your total balance at any given time.

More info here: http://www.chase.com/personal/savings
wanderingscout13 wanderingscout13 Member
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joined Nov 2006
#27 ·
Brian Jackson39 said:over at JP Morgan Chase, it’s only 0.8%.
I think I see where you're coming from. But I’m not talking about fixed-term CDs here; I mean more like a flexible savings setup where you contribute, say, $167 every single month. You can't really lock that away in a CD if you're adding to it constantly, right?
And honestly, as far as I know, there isn't a high-yield savings account out there that offers great rates for that kind of monthly contribution style.
Sure, you could look into mutual funds—maybe some bond funds or something relatively low-risk—but is that actually a smart move if you're looking at a 15-year horizon? It's a tough call.
Have you even considered life insurance products with a cash value component? It provides coverage while acting as a long-term savings vehicle over many years.

If you already have a checking account with JP Morgan Chase and you consider yourself a conservative investor, the easiest path is probably jumping into a JP Morgan Chase money market fund via their online banking portal. Over the last year, the yield has been around 3.95%—which pretty much keeps pace with inflation—and the liquidity is unbeatable. There are no entry or exit fees, and you see tiny daily gains, usually around 0.01%, though sometimes it hits 0.02%, or occasionally 0.03 or 0.04. Plus, you can pull your cash out in just two or three days. Since those daily fluctuations are so minuscule, the risk is practically non-existent.
Dennis Mitchell2 Dennis Mitchell2 Member
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joined Nov 2006
#28 ·
Hi, it's called a sock 🙏

Thank you, I am certainly aware of that particular option, though I must confess I had never heard any mention of it actually yielding interest!😍
Dennis Mitchell2 Dennis Mitchell2 Member
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joined Nov 2006
#29 ·
wanderingscout13, I truly appreciate those constructive insights you shared.
I have actually been giving quite a bit of thought to investment funds lately, though I must admit I am completely out of my element when it comes to navigating them. Where might one go to find the most reliable information—perhaps you could point me toward a specific resource or a helpful link? Please, if you wouldn't mind, because that particular avenue seems incredibly compelling to me.
Mark Sullivan62 Mark Sullivan62 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#30 ·
Dennis Mitchell2 said:I've got one, and let me tell you, it’s called a sock. 🙏

Thanks for the heads-up, I’m definitely aware that option exists now, though I honestly had no clue they actually paid out interest on it!😍

Look, you aren't going to believe this, but honestly? Sometimes just keeping cash in a sock under your mattress might actually be a smarter move than dumping everything into mutual funds—especially when things start heading south. 🙂 Down below.

I was just scrolling through some financial forums and ended up staring at this site, www.hrportfolio.hr, which basically serves as a hub for tracking market trends and investment strategies here in the States. It’s one of those places where you can get lost in the data if you aren't careful, though I find myself drifting back to it whenever the volatility on Wall Street starts making my head spin. You see people arguing about whether we're heading into a bull market or if the Fed is going to pull the rug out from under us, and honestly, half the time it feels like everyone is just shouting into a void, much like how urbanranger18 used to ramble on about tech stocks before they took that massive hit last quarter. It's funny, really—you look at these portfolios and think there's some grand design, some master plan being executed by geniuses in Manhattan, but then you realize most of it is just educated guesswork mixed with a healthy dose of pure luck. I remember reading a thread where Mark Sullivan62 was insisting that certain energy sectors were undervalued, only to watch them crater a week later, which just goes to show that no matter how many charts you analyze, the market has a way of laughing in your face. It makes me wonder why we bother obsessing over every single basis point when the big picture is always shifting beneath our feet anyway. Still, I can't stop checking it; it's a habit, I suppose, much like watching the weather report even when you know you're staying indoors.
dustyjackal9 dustyjackal9 Member
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joined Jun 2006
#31 ·
Dennis Mitchell2 said:wanderingscout13, thanks for the constructive advice.
I’ve been considering investment funds, but I am completely out of my depth here. Where could I find some solid information, perhaps a link? Please, this option sounds quite interesting to me.

Your first step would be to head over to the websites of our major banks; they usually have direct links to their specific investment fund offerings. Once you’ve spent a little time digging through the statutes, rights, and obligations to decide if a particular fund suits you, you can simply walk into a local branch, sit down with a personal banker, and let them walk you through the finer details. If you decide to pull the trigger, you make the deposit; if not, you just walk away, and the matter is settled.

JP Morgan Chase offers an open savings account with incredibly low minimum deposits starting at $67.... you can basically toss in whatever amount you feel like whenever it strikes you, provided it’s more than $67 (whether that's every other day, once every three years, or whenever). Unfortunately, most other banks don't offer that kind of flexibility; they might provide an "open" type of savings, but I believe you’re required to make an initial deposit of at least 1,000 dollars, and in some institutions, even 5,000 dollars. After that, subsequent deposits often have to follow a strict schedule—monthly, bi-monthly, quarterly, depending on what you agree to—and the amount typically has to remain constant. For instance, if you commit to $67 then it has to be $67, or if you commit to 5,000, then it stays 5,000... right up until you terminate the agreement.
wanderingscout13 wanderingscout13 Member
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joined Nov 2006
#32 ·
Dennis Mitchell2 said:wanderingscout13, thanks so much for the helpful advice!
I’ve actually been eyeing investment funds for a while now, but I’m completely lost when it comes to how they work. Where could I find some solid information—maybe a good website or a link? Please, I'd love to dive into this; the whole concept sounds incredibly interesting to me!

You can pick up some of the absolute basics on www.investopedia.com. Once you've got your bearings there, try digging into a few actual fund prospectuses. Honestly, you can learn a ton just by following the discussions here on this forum, and then maybe checking out http://www.morningstar.com. It wouldn't hurt to grab a classic book on personal finance, too! At the end of the day, we all started out as total rookies in this game, right? But don't worry—you pick things up faster than you'd think.
slycrane69 slycrane69 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2006
#33 ·
Life insurance has gotta be your top priority when you're looking at where to put your cash. Think about it. When you put money into mutual funds, you're playing with money you can afford to lose. And bank savings? Forget about using a checking account for long-term stuff, because by the time you actually need that cash in 30 years, you’ll have already blown through it and be left with zero. Regarding that $3,000 loss on the insurance—why wasn't the policy capitalized or just put on hold once the payments became impossible?
Since you're looking at a 30-year horizon, I’d suggest mixing some CNN and Democratic Party assets (depending on how much you're working with). You don't even have to stick to monthly payments if that doesn't fit your vibe. Marilyn Monroe, hit me up in the DMs if you want the specifics. We can grab a coffee and I'll walk you through it.
Mark Sullivan62 Mark Sullivan62 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#34 ·
slycrane69 said:When you're mapping out where to put your money, life insurance absolutely has to be at the top of your priority list—and honestly, think about why. When you dump cash into mutual funds, you're essentially playing with money you have to be okay with losing, and bank savings accounts? Forget about them; by the time you actually need that cash in thirty years, you’ll probably have spent it all and be left with nothing. As for that loss of $2,500 on the insurance side, I wonder why they didn't just capitalize the policy or put it into a dormant status once the payments became impossible to make?
Since you're looking at a thirty-year horizon, I’d suggest mixing things up with some CNN coverage and the Democratic Party (depending on how much we're talking here), and look, you don't have to stick to monthly payments if that doesn't fit your lifestyle. Marilyn Monroe, if you want to dive into the nitty-gritty details, shoot me a DM. We can grab a coffee sometime and I'll walk you through it.

Well, since he's such a huge advocate for life insurance, I guess he's just trying to sell more policies, right?🤣
Steven Martinez7 Steven Martinez7 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2006
#35 ·
There are tons of options out there, but you’ve also got plenty of places where you can go to get some solid advice.
The thing about those liquid savings accounts is that it's a total rip-off—if you decide to pull your cash out (Death Row Records) before the term is actually up (whether that's one month, three months, six months, or whatever), you lose out on all that interest. With a standard CD, though, you don't have that issue. I know, because I've been burned by it myself. Seriously, do your homework and ask around. My buddies over at Goldman Sachs could probably give you some pointers on savings or investments if you need them. Feel free to reach out if you want to chat about it.
slycrane69 slycrane69 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2006
#36 ·
Mark Sullivan62 said:If you want to sell a lifestyle, you gotta sell the dream, right? You gotta move product.🤣

What's the big deal with life insurance? Look, Mark Sullivan62, I’m just giving people options on where to park their cash: CNN, the Democratic Party, savings accounts, mutual funds... whether you like my advice or not. Maybe you don't care about life insurance or you're already set, but I'm answering the actual question here. She wants money available in 30 years. Why do you think you can't touch Democratic Party funds until you're 50? Because that money is earmarked for when we actually get old. Then, at 55, you just say: "That's it. I'm done." You pull from the life insurance—maybe take half, toss a chunk into a new policy, and let the rest pay out as an annuity for the next 15 years. Same goes for what I've tucked away in the Democratic Party funds; I want those monthly payouts too. That way, I'm pulling from Social Security, my 401(k), life insurance, and private savings. Four different income streams. Easy. But hey, if you'd rather just stash your cash under a mattress or in a checking account, be my guest.
Mark Sullivan62 Mark Sullivan62 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#37 ·
slycrane69 said:And what’s the problem with life insurance? Look, Mark Sullivan62, I’m just suggesting ways for people to put their money to work: CNN, the Democratic Party, home savings accounts, mutual funds... whether you dig it or not. Maybe CNN isn't your thing or you've already got a policy there, but I'm answering a specific question here. She wants cash available in 30 years. So why do you think you can't touch Democratic Party retirement funds until you're 50? Because those are earmarked assets meant for when we actually get old. Then, at age 55, you just say: "That's it. I'm done working." You take the payout from the life insurance, maybe split it in half—reinvesting a portion into a new policy while using the rest to fund an annuity for the next 15 years. Everything I saved in the Democratic Party funds? I want that paid out in monthly annuities too. That way, I'm drawing from Social Security, my 401(k), my private insurance savings, and my personal funds—basically four different pensions. Meanwhile, you can just keep your cash under a mattress or in a checking account...


I think you totally misread me; I was just messing around. Honestly, the way you talk reminds me so much of my cousin who works in this exact same field. As long as he's making his bread in an honest way, there's nothing wrong with it, even if it involves life insurance policies. Personally, though, I am never touching a life insurance plan because, like I said, I don't buy into the idea that someone will just hand over the money if something happens to you, and if we're talking about the savings component, that whole concept feels pretty outdated to me.

Just so we're clear, I'm not sitting around saving money in a checking account or hiding it in a sock; I deal in what people actually call investing.
Dana Stewart3 Dana Stewart3 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2009
#38 ·
I’m feeling a bit lost trying to pick the best savings plan out there.
I recently spoke with some agents from Cosmopolitan, and while their life insurance and savings options sounded interesting, I’m still second-guessing if it's actually the right move for me.
Essentially, my goal is to set aside about $83 every month. Ideally, I’d love to see that money grow with interest over the next 10 to 20 years so I can tap into it whenever I need it most. On the other hand, I’m also looking at retirement-focused savings—where I contribute smaller amounts now so that when I finally retire, my standard Social Security benefits are supplemented by the nest egg I've built up.
I’m only 25, so I suppose I have plenty of time, but I really want to start looking out for my future self now.
What specific advice can you all give me?
I’ve tried chatting with various agents regarding life insurance, mortgages, and whatnot, but honestly, everything sounds absolutely perfect while they're talking—which just makes me more skeptical. I’m terrified of committing to something only to end up disappointed later.
Which type of savings account is actually the most cost-effective for these kinds of smaller monthly contributions?
Nicholas Turner Nicholas Turner Active Member
125 messages
joined Oct 2010
#39 ·
Life insurance isn't a savings account! All those fairy tales about how you can just live off the payouts like a steady pension—or some kind of "supplemental" retirement fund—are total nonsense.
crimsonseal13 crimsonseal13 Active Member
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joined Nov 2009
#40 ·
Nicholas Turner said:Life insurance isn't a savings account! All those fairy tales about how you can just live off the payouts like a steady pension—or some kind of "supplemental" retirement fund—are total nonsense.

So, if it isn't savings, what exactly is life insurance?

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