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Best ways to save money right now?

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Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
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#161 ·
blueridge32 said:aha, Fidelity and Amazon... except those specific tranches aren't available right now. Something similar is hitting the market soon, but it's a trade secret! 😁

Honestly, I’ve never been a fan of that whole setup. The timelines are way too long, the guaranteed returns are practically peanuts, and you’re stuck without any liquidity... plus, if I recall correctly, you couldn't even use them as collateral for anything (at least not until about a year and a half or two ago).
crimsonseal13 crimsonseal13 Active Member
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#162 ·
Kimberly Nguyen said:Honestly, I’ve never been a fan of that whole setup. The timelines are way too long, the guaranteed returns are practically peanuts, and you’re stuck without any liquidity... plus, if I recall correctly, you couldn't even use them as collateral for anything (at least not until about a year and a half or two ago).

Every guarantee comes with a price tag if you look closely enough...
boldridge9 boldridge9 Newcomer
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#163 ·
So, things are looking pretty stable right now, which basically means I’ll be sitting on a surplus of about 3-$1333 per month for a while.

I'm trying to figure out the best way to put that extra cash to work.

1. Money market funds—the returns aren't nearly what they were when I first started investing a year ago, and honestly, they don't seem as worthwhile as

2. High-yield CDs

3.?

As for number three... I'd love it if some brilliant minds around here could suggest something actually worth my time.

🙂
neonhound10 neonhound10 Active Member
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#164 ·
You can't really expect to find everything you need all under one roof at a single bank 😉
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Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#165 ·
You’ve already covered the savings topic.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that money market funds have lower returns—JPMorgan Chase's money market fund hit 8.63% over the last year. Also, don't forget that stock dividends only happen occasionally, and they're based on capital you already own.
Since you haven't actually saved the cash yet, your best bet is sticking to a fund or a savings account with monthly deposits to match your saving pace. Once you've built up a decent nest egg, then you can start looking at other options.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#166 ·
neonhound10 said:You can't really expect to find everything you need all under one roof at a single bank 😉
...

Why not just stick to the insured limit? 🤷
Spreading it out helps you snag better interest rates and makes you look like a much more solid client to them.
neonhound10 neonhound10 Active Member
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#167 ·
Charles Ramos7 said:Why not just stick to the insured limit? 🤷
Spreading it out helps you snag better interest rates and makes you look like a much more solid client to them.

The problem is that everything looks perfect on paper here, but once you run into a real-world situation, you quickly realize how fast the whole thing starts falling apart... 😉

I've seen this happen with all sorts of different insurance policies, and honestly, it seems like we're seeing the exact same pattern with home savings accounts too...

That's just how things work in America.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#168 ·
You might be right. We probably need a real-world example to actually see how this plays out.
I suspect most of us are just playing around with smaller amounts anyway, and if you spread them across a few different banks, you won't hit any meaningful thresholds. Plus, there were usually minimum deposit requirements just to qualify for those promotional interest rates. btw, I’ve always thought those home savings accounts were a total waste of time.
neonhound10 neonhound10 Active Member
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#169 ·
I mean, sure, if we’re just talking about tiny amounts of money, that’s one thing...

But let’s look at the bigger picture—if you actually had $500 $0.00 sitting there, would you really feel comfortable keeping all that cash tucked away in a single bank account and stuck in just one currency?

Obviously, there’s no such thing as a foolproof safety net, but you really have to weigh that against what kind of interest rate you're actually willing to settle for...

At the end of the day, every single investment carries some level of risk, and there’s simply no such thing as absolute protection...
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#170 ·
I’d stick with one currency—USD—since interest rates on other currencies aren't really worth the headache. I wouldn't even consider something like the peso as a serious option, especially since the rate gap isn't wide enough to justify the risk.

That amount actually exceeds my coverage limit, so I’d just move the uninsured portion somewhere else.

If I could talk a major bank like Chase into giving me a better rate for keeping the full balance there, maybe I’d be willing to take the risk on the uninsured part. 🤷
nimblepilot4 nimblepilot4 Newcomer
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#171 ·
I hope I’m not drifting too far off-topic here, since this question leans more toward investment funds...
My CD is about to mature (roughly $4,500), and I’m thinking about moving those funds into mutual funds—maybe putting about two-thirds into a money market fund and the rest into bonds, all in USD. I’m also expecting to save another $2,200 over the next few months, which I plan to roll straight into my investments. At that point, I might put a smaller portion into a balanced fund, though I haven't decided if I should split the larger amount between money market and bonds or just consolidate everything into one. My goal isn't to chase the highest possible returns; I just want to ensure my capital is relatively safe while earning something better than what a standard savings account offers. Does this approach seem sound, or would a different strategy make a significant difference? Thanks in advance.
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
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#172 ·
Regarding all this talk about hedge funds, I’m asking you all—please—can we move these discussions over to IMPORTANT - Questions from those new to investing
nimblepilot4 nimblepilot4 Newcomer
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#173 ·
Alright, please go ahead and delete my previous posts so there isn't any duplication. Thanks...
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#174 ·
If I can weigh in here—and maybe this is a suggestion for the mods—investing in hedge funds or those principal-protected products feels much more like traditional saving than it does high-stakes investing. When you look at the yields and the safety levels, it’s really aimed at the average person just looking to park their cash without taking on unnecessary risk.
From what I’ve seen in the threads, a lot of us are using money market funds alongside our savings accounts, and I think we’d get much better discussions here if we focused on those rather than just talking about ETFs or individual stocks.
The crowd hanging out in the ETF sections is playing an entirely different game; to them, these conservative options are basically "kindergarten" stuff.
That’s why I’m suggesting we open up the floor for actual discussions regarding money market funds and protected investment products right here.

Just my two cents...☕
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
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#175 ·
I think this idea is fantastic 👍

I’m actually planning on starting a dedicated thread just for hedge funds, so maybe we could rename this current one to something else? I don't want the title to be a cluttered mess—it should be clear enough so anyone glancing at it knows exactly what we're discussing. I'm open to suggestions...

Honestly, it feels like everyone has completely overlooked—and I'm talking to both the old-timers here and the newcomers who might be scrolling through subforum rules 😁—that there is already a specific thread for Suggestions & Complaints for the Board. So, if you've got an idea, please, just post it there! I've already started putting together a list of topics just to make things easier to navigate, but that's all 🙂
Terry Martin30 Terry Martin30 Newcomer
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#176 ·
I hope I’m posting this in the right corner of the forum.
So, I’ve been chewing on some savings strategies lately (ever since I finished reading 🙂) but I’m feeling a bit stuck on which direction to head in to actually secure my future.
Should I go with:

-A 401(k) contribution
-A high-yield CD
or maybe something else entirely...

I’m looking at putting away roughly $200 a month.$83

Thanks in advance for any insight you guys can offer.
Nicholas Davis14 Nicholas Davis14 Newcomer
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#177 ·
Terry Martin30 said:I hope I’m posting this in the right corner of the forum.
So, I’ve been chewing on some savings strategies lately (ever since I finished reading 🙂) but I’m feeling a bit stuck on which direction to head in to actually secure my future.
Should I go with:

-A 401(k) contribution
-A high-yield CD
or maybe something else entirely...

I’m looking at putting away roughly $200 a month.$83

Thanks in advance for any insight you guys can offer.

The 401(k) is a solid move, but the catch is you can't touch that cash until you're 59 and a half. I don't know if you've already built up an emergency fund—you know, that "rainy day" stash that could carry you for a few months if you suddenly lost your job or your income took a hit.
Honestly, it might be smartest to run both tracks at once: contribute to the retirement account while also building up a standard CD or high-yield savings account.
neonhound10 neonhound10 Active Member
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#178 ·
Personally, I’m just not seeing how this whole third pillar thing is going to work out for us...

Does anyone here actually use one of those third pillar accounts already?

From what I’ve been hearing through the grapevine, things have already started hitting some snags with that setup, so I’m starting to think it might not be the smartest move after all...
casualtrucker7 casualtrucker7 Member
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#179 ·
You might have misheard—these voluntary funds are actually solid across the board. Here’s some data just to help rebuild some trust:

Fund: 2009 Return
Raiffeisen Bank 12.02%
Vanguard 15.31%
State Farm 8.97%
Fidelity 10.02%
Goldman Sachs 14.96%
BlackRock 5.44%

Plus, you still get that $1667 annual government match of 25% ($417) along with the tax breaks for 401(k)-style contributions.

There are only two real downsides—you can't start withdrawals until you're 50, and the payout structure limits you to maybe 30% in cash, with the rest spread over at least five years. Everything else is pretty great, I guess.
neonhound10 neonhound10 Active Member
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#180 ·
It all sounds wonderful on paper, but I’d much rather hear from the actual people out there living it 😉

And this whole tax situation—it feels like they give you a break now just to tighten the screws later, doesn't it? It's a lot like how life insurance policies work sometimes...

But I really do agree, it all comes down to individual interpretation, and it’s nearly impossible to say one specific model is objectively better than another since everyone finds what works for them differently...

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