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Participants Ronald Castillo5Timothy Gonzalez48Chris Ruiz10goldentinker79Jerry Moore2hiddenpuma75coastalfalcon99Carol Hill3Scott Morris20coastalangler2wanderingbadger18coastalorca3stormylynx14redhawk7
hiddenpuma75 hiddenpuma75 Regular
376 messages
joined Dec 2002
#21 ·
Chris Ruiz10 said:hiddenpuma75!!!!!

How am I supposed to do what I love when I don't feel like doing anything at all?

Well, this is just lovely...🙂

You're clearly on a whole different level than us mere mortals who are still stuck in the phase of actually enjoying work and obsessing over goals and achievements.

Just go meditate.

Or just be who you are.

After all, didn't the great sages say—

DON'T JUST DO SOMETHING.

SIT and be quiet. 😉

Everything is just pure consciousness, and pretty soon, it'll start revealing its secrets to you.

Because honestly, everything is fine. 🙂

The truth is, you love doing NOTHING, which means you've finally found yourself...
you've liberated yourself from the need to be productive.

You're basically a future Bodhisattva in the making. 😵
Bravo to you!
Chris Ruiz10 Chris Ruiz10 Active Member
52 messages
joined Oct 2005
#22 ·
hiddenpuma75 said:because everything is just fine 🙂

you actually love doing NOTHING, you finally found yourself..
freed yourself from the need to work

you're basically a future bodhisattva😵
nice one [/B]

Thanks for the kind words, but that last emoji worries me. It reminds me of my wife wanting me to "find myself" before she hits me over the head with a hammer.

I'd really love to just be who I am and find myself... but how? I guess I'm just jealous of those artists and musicians who actually know what they want and just go for it.

Can you even get rich by doing something JUST for the money? That's how I'm acting right now, I guess.

Best,
Chris Ruiz10
Ronald Castillo5 Ronald Castillo5 Active MemberOP
60 messages
joined Dec 2005
#23 ·
Look, man... try approaching it this way... don't just work for a paycheck... make the money work for you.

Let me know if that makes sense...
Ronald Castillo5 Ronald Castillo5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2005
#24 ·
Let me add a little something to my own point...

I’m sure you have some kind of roadmap for where you want to be in the next 15 to 35 years. You’re at Point A right now, and you know exactly where Point B lies.

Think of it like this: suppose you want to get from where you live in Washington, D.C., all the way to New York City... since that's your favorite place to be.

You wouldn't just hop on a plane and call it a day. You’d plan a more unconventional journey... maybe hitchhike your way to Boston first, then bike through Milwaukee because the scenery is gorgeous... after that, you rent a car to head toward Brussels, using the money you saved up working as a waiter in Milwaukee. Then, you take a Calley Taxi from Brussels, catch a ferry across the water, and eventually reach Dale, where I'll be waiting for you. And just like that, you're in New York City.

So, you finally reached Point B... that place in New York City where you truly belong. To get there, you used a variety of different modes of transport to make the trip happen.

That’s why investors often talk about "investment vehicles." Depending on the situation, they pick different tools—sometimes it's stocks, sometimes bonds, sometimes real estate, or even just starting out with education and experience...

Now... it’s wonderful for those people who travel from Point A to Point B in vehicles they absolutely love and enjoy along the way (I'm talking about people who genuinely love what they do)....

They reach Point B, their ultimate destination, and they actually enjoyed the ride getting there. It's a great way to live...

But look, man, if you and I aren't quite lucky enough to travel from Point A to Point B in vehicles we truly enjoy... that shouldn't stop us from making the trip. Our ultimate goal is still Point B. Even if the journey itself isn't a blast, we keep moving because reaching Point B is the whole point.

So, are you getting on board?
Scott Morris20 Scott Morris20 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Nov 2003
#25 ·
🙏 Ronald Castillo5 🙏

Total disaster, all around... honestly, looking at what you just wrote, I'm almost at a loss for words...

just keep on writing 👍
Ronald Castillo5 Ronald Castillo5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2005
#26 ·
At least ask me something... I usually need a little nudge or a good question to get the gears turning. I can't just sit here and scribble aimlessly...

Come on, give me something to work with...😁
Scott Morris20 Scott Morris20 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Nov 2003
#27 ·
What’s the point in asking you anything when you clearly have all the answers already?
Jerry Moore2 Jerry Moore2 Active Member
69 messages
joined Oct 2003
#28 ·
Ronald Castillo5 said:At least ask me something... I need a little provocation to get the gears turning. I can't just sit here scratching my head for no reason...

So, go ahead. Push my buttons...😁

Way to be honest, Ronald Castillo5!
There’s actually one killer question over on Diaspora Who is that I’ve been dying to get an answer to myself:
Ronald Castillo5 Ronald Castillo5 Active MemberOP
60 messages
joined Dec 2005
#29 ·
Jerry Moore2...I replied to you over there, hope it helps.

Since I’m running another thread here (New York Stock Exchange versus Real Estate) and some topics seem to overlap with this one, I want to highlight a few recurring themes I see from many participants...

When I was talking about real estate, mortgages, and the fundamental perks of investing in property, I often heard people say:

"That’s impossible in America."

"That's impossible in other countries."

"It's too complicated."

"There's too much risk."

"What if you lose everything?"


Personally, I think success in business often doesn't depend on what you need to do but rather who you need to be...

I believe so much depends on an individual's mental reality...

If someone's mental reality tells them that things like this are impossible in the US, or that they are too complex, too risky, or that failing is just too bad... then that person truly lacks the mental reality required for success and will never achieve it.

First off, losing or falling down is only bad for losers. A winner knows that losing is part of winning, and for them, losing is actually a good thing because they learn lessons that lead to much bigger gains later on...

Second, if a person is hardwired to believe something is impossible—even when others are proving it can be done right before their eyes—there’s no helping them unless they change that mindset. They have to shift that mental reality from "impossible" to "totally doable"...

Take the Wright brothers, for example... Wright, Orwill, and Wilbur Wright... at a specific point in history, they said: "We are going to be the first humans to fly.".

In the mental reality of people back then, that sounded completely insane and foolish...

However, the Wright brothers spent their time on a bicycle in a field, crashing hundreds of times before they finally became the first people to take flight and change the world...

Millions of people will never "fly" financially simply because they are afraid of falling, believing in their own mental reality that failure is a disaster...

The Wright brothers took risks, but it was calculated. They didn't try to fly off the tallest skyscraper in the world only to die instantly if they failed. No, their risk was a field with a bicycle. Every time they crashed, they might bruise themselves or break a finger or an arm, but they learned something every single time. They took off even though the mental reality of 99.9999% of people was that flight was impossible...

Their mental reality told them otherwise—not because they saw people flying, but because they shifted their own perception until it told them it was possible...

On the flip side, there are people who refuse to change their mental reality even when thousands of others prove to them that something is achievable...

When Christopher Columbus sailed in one direction and ended up proving the world was round, there were still thousands of people insisting the earth was flat... simply because that was their mental reality...

The point is, you can only achieve what fits within your own mental reality...
coastalangler2 coastalangler2 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2003
#30 ·
Most people live pretty much the same way. There’s this overwhelming consensus that a quiet, stable family life is absolutely priceless. They view any kind of risk as a direct threat to that little domestic utopia they've built, so they steer clear of anything unpredictable at all costs. It would all be perfectly fine, too, if it weren't for one massive, complicating headache...

It’s funny, really. You look around and realize that absolutely nobody here is actually offering you any real sense of security...

The reason people didn't bother starting businesses under socialism wasn't because they lacked the capacity. It wasn't an issue of ability—people were actually building quite impressive enterprises back in the days of the former America... The real kicker was that a steady job was basically guaranteed. You had a paycheck waiting for you regardless. Of course, as time went on, things started to shift—you’d see the rise of small-time side hustles, casual credit, and all sorts of other little ways people tried to get ahead...

That's just not how things work anymore. No matter how much skin a capitalist has in the game when it comes to protecting their margins, the worker is always staring down the barrel of a pink slip. Everyone is living under that same cloud of constant stress; the only real distinction is that the capitalist actually holds the cards, while the employee is just praying they don't get dealt a losing hand...

It honestly feels like people have completely lost interest in their own futures. Just look at the cycle most people are stuck in. You grind away from nine to five—and let’s be real, usually way longer than that—just to line the pockets of some CEO. Every ounce of your energy, every spare minute of your life, is being funneled directly into generating profit for someone else... So many people are content to just play it safe like this, but they’re missing the bigger picture. If they actually took all that wasted effort and poured it into building their own business, things might look different. Sure, the margins wouldn't be massive right out of the gate, and you wouldn't see immediate returns, but it would be worth it. You learn how to swim by jumping into the deep end...

Honestly, people are just reckless. Completely delusional. You hear guys like Ronald Castillo5 complaining that they can barely afford groceries, yet they’re out there financing a brand-new truck or upgrading to the latest iPhone. It’s absurd. Over in certain parts of the country, you see people taking out massive loans just to fund a single vacation... it’s pure insanity. They have zero foresight, just this desperate craving for instant gratification. The problem is, once they sink themselves into that kind of debt, they aren't just "struggling"—they’ve completely forfeited their freedom. They lose all maneuverability. They won't be able to secure a business loan ever again, and heaven help them if they lose their job, because where exactly are they supposed to go with that mountain of debt hanging over their heads?...

It’s pretty obvious that the ruling elite isn't just trying to stack their own capital; they’ve rigged the entire system to make sure nobody else can catch up. When you look at how everything is interconnected, it starts looking less like coincidence and more like a coordinated conspiracy. You've got TV, fashion, ideology, even theology—it’s all working in lockstep to serve their interests. And if you want to talk about one of the biggest scams ever conceived, look no further than the constant pressure put on young people to "find their own way" and become independent as quickly as possible...

How? It’s simple. They need to get out of their parents' house as fast as humanly possible. I assume they have some sort of grudge against home? So instead, they rush to become "independent" by paying astronomical rent to landlords who couldn't care less about them. Or even worse, they dive headfirst into predatory consumer loans, effectively suffocating any future breathing room they might have had. But honestly, you should be doing the exact opposite. Every young person needs to make sure every single dollar they earn is working as hard as possible. Why on earth wouldn't you take advantage of living with your parents for a few years—people who have already survived their own share of debt—to build up a real nest egg for a future business? Instead of just lining a landlord's pockets, they’re making their parents' sacrifices completely meaningless, only to end up right back at square one...
Jerry Moore2 Jerry Moore2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2003
#31 ·
If you’re going to launch your own thing, you need two things: pure confidence and actual, honest-to-god time.
I have this friend who built a company from scratch right here in the States, and he did it during one of the absolute worst economic downturns imaginable. Now? He’s got about twenty people on his payroll and the business is actually doing pretty decent.
He made a name for himself.
Look, the guy isn't shady or anything, but what else is a man supposed to do? Pull two straight days without sleep?
Personally, I love working, I really do. But if "work" means staying awake for forty-eight hours straight just to keep some project moving, then that better be a JOB I actually LOVE.
You need talent, sure, but more importantly, you need a genuine passion for whatever niche you're diving into.
There's that old cliché—if you do what you love, you'll never work a single day in your life.
And honestly, it's true, because you start seeing it as a hobby or a passion rather than just grueling labor.
If someone came up to me today and said, "Hey, go sell eggs door-to-door for a month and you'll have a million dollars," I’d probably go for it.
But if someone tells me, "You have to sell eggs door-to-door for the rest of your entire career to guarantee you'll be rich," there is no way in hell I'm signing up for that.
Fuck eggs. I'm not trading my life for them.
Timothy Gonzalez48 Timothy Gonzalez48 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2003
#32 ·
Jerry Moore2, look, this isn't a business venture for you—you should probably just forget about it. It’s hard to watch someone be this relentlessly negative before they've even cleared the starting line. Honestly—and please don't take this as an insult—maybe a session with a therapist might help you learn how to approach things with a bit more optimism.

And regarding that egg example of yours: why on earth do you assume that YOU would be stuck selling eggs for the rest of your life? Start small. Build something. If you eventually hire staff, scale the operation, or open a second location, YOU could be sitting at home watching the profits roll in (assuming that won't be too much trouble for you). Once you have some capital, you can upgrade your lifestyle—buy a better house, a nicer car, or whatever else brings you a bit of joy.

Being your own boss and making your own money provides a level of freedom that is truly unparalleled!
Chris Ruiz10 Chris Ruiz10 Active Member
52 messages
joined Oct 2005
#33 ·
Ronald Castillo5 said:Look, man, if neither you nor I are lucky enough to get from point A to point B in a luxury ride... it shouldn't stop us from making the trip. At the end of the day, the goal is point B. So even if the journey sucks, we’re still going because that destination is what matters.

You getting on board?

I mean, you've got a point. Honestly, I don't care what anyone else has to say. I want to be rich, I know what I want, and I'm chasing it. If I have to do stuff I hate along the way? Whatever. The goal makes it worth it, I guess.

I'm out... gotta run!!!

later,
Chris Ruiz10
goldentinker79 goldentinker79 Member
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joined Nov 2003
#34 ·
Hey Barba Anderlon, I’ve got a little suggestion for the economy section. Could we maybe get a dedicated sub-forum called "MLM Seminars" or maybe even "Inter Miami CF Hotel"? It would be the perfect spot for our MLMovac crew to hang out once a week and hustle in peace without anyone breathing down their necks.😁Of course, we’d need to make sure they have access to things like fancy tie pins, those high-end prize pens, and maybe an "Employee of the Month" award to keep the spirits high.😁
It’s a win-win situation: you guys collect your commissions, they stay happy, and nobody gets harassed here on the main boards.

The wolf is full, the goats are counting themselves, and the shepherd is just digging around under a tree. 😁 😁
Ronald Castillo5 Ronald Castillo5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2005
#35 ·
It honestly drives me crazy when people refuse to put in even two minutes of effort to actually read something before they start spewing their mindless nonsense online.

This thread isn't even about MLM... which, for the record, I find just as obnoxious as ignorant people.
goldentinker79 goldentinker79 Member
23 messages
joined Nov 2003
#36 ·
Ronald Castillo5 said:Honestly, nothing turns my stomach faster than people who can't be bothered to spend two minutes actually reading something before they start spouting their mindless, self-indulgent nonsense.

This whole thread has zero to do with an MLM... which, by the way, I find just as repulsive as ignorant people.

I completely read you, honey. 😁To put it bluntly: "blah blah blah, whatever, who cares."😁

It’s basically the textbook definition of a classic MLM brainwashing session. 😁

You aren't going to learn anything from the internet. Get out into the real world and get some grit.
Chris Ruiz10 Chris Ruiz10 Active Member
52 messages
joined Oct 2005
#37 ·
I still don't get where goldentinker79 sees an MLM in this thread.

What product is even being "sold"? Where’s the scheme? Where’s the pyramid? How am I even supposed to join or who am I sending money to??

Aloooo, Ronald Castillo5, just post that invoice publicly so we can all chip in and start hunting for new suckers to pay. Let's not hide, goldentinker79 already called you out anyway. 🙏 🙏

Let's go, everyone jump into the pyramid. If you're hiding, you're a moron...

later,
Chris Ruiz10

p.s. if anyone's interested, I have a digital copy of Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Hit me up in the DMs and I'll send it over (it's usually $1,000, but for goldentinker79, it's free 🙂 ).
Ronald Castillo5 Ronald Castillo5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2005
#38 ·
I mean, they probably just overwhelmed her, so now she’s acting all paranoid.

Personally, I've lost some good friends because they started pushing that MLM marketer lifestyle and preaching about getting rich overnight.

goldentinker79, be honest—did you just skip over what I wrote, or did it just not click?

My whole point is that everything I’ve said here is actually the exact opposite of any typical MLM "philosophy."

But if you're already this deep in a paranoid headspace, there isn't much else I can do...
Chris Ruiz10 Chris Ruiz10 Active Member
52 messages
joined Oct 2005
#39 ·
Just realized I totally forgot to mention the title of the book:

Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill is in English. If anyone wants a copy, just shoot me a DM.

Ronald Castillo5,
The problem with these MLM marketers is their sales pitch. They read those books only when they need to push some scheme on you. Then suddenly, they're telling you that an MLM will be your vehicle to success. It’s pathetic, but I guess it's true.
Carol Hill3 Carol Hill3 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Oct 2003
#40 ·
Chris Ruiz10, what kind of book are you actually pitching us here?

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