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Conscience: What is it and how does it actually work?

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Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active MemberOP
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What does conscience actually mean? How does it develop... through self-preservation... or that gut feeling about right and wrong? Where does all of that come from in our programming?

How do you view the reasons why conscience exists?

And how would you define it?🙄

Is conscience a spiritual dimension of a living program—a human being?
Betty Wells31 Betty Wells31 Newcomer
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#2 ·
Conscience... it’s like this divine spark we just happen to receive.
It’s almost like an injection that God pumps straight into our souls.
Daniel Martin72 Daniel Martin72 Newcomer
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#3 ·
Conscience is basically just that tiny little voice in the back of your head whispering, "Hey, maybe don't do that... you might actually get caught,"

😁
Betty Wells31 Betty Wells31 Newcomer
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#4 ·
Betty Wells31, what you just laid out there... that isn't conscience. That's just basic math. You already know the hammer is gonna drop, so you're playing it safe to avoid the penalty.

Real conscience? That's a whole different animal. It’s when the consequences don't even enter the equation... you just know.

The fear of getting busted lives in your head, sure, but that inner voice? Conscience doesn't come from your brain... it comes from somewhere much deeper within us.
frozenangler9 frozenangler9 Active Member
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frozenangler9 said:What’s the deal with conscience, really? How does it actually kick in—is it just self-preservation... or some gut feeling about right and wrong? Where does all that stuff even come from in our programming?

So, what's your take on why we even have a conscience?

And how would you actually define it?🙄

Is conscience more like a spiritual component of being alive—part of the human program?

Conscience is basically that inner voice telling you how to act morally.
If we mess up and don't stick to our own moral code, our conscience calls us out on it. 😉

Morality doesn't need religion to work—it's pretty much built on a logic of balance that applies to everyone... men and women alike. 😁
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
Hiarcs said:Conscience... it’s like a divine impulse we receive.
A sort of injection Bog pumps directly into our souls.


Such an interesting thought!👍
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
ljetopisac said:Conscience is just that little voice whispering, "Don't do that, you might get caught."

😁

I have to say, this is actually pretty cool!😁 👍

But that version of conscience—the "getting caught" part—isn't really the spiritual kind!😛
Bradley Fisher20 Bradley Fisher20 Active Member
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Velma said:Morality doesn't have to be tied to religion. It’s perfectly fine if it's just built on basic logic and finding some kind of balance that applies to everyone... 😁

👍

BTW, conscience is basically just your internal compass made of social values, designed to keep you acting like a functional part of society. When you go against your own conscience, you feel that gut punch—that massive anxiety spike. Because you're straight up fighting yourself.
Alex Thompson5 Alex Thompson5 Member
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Alex Thompson5 said:What does conscience actually mean? How does it even develop... through self-preservation... or this innate sense of right and wrong? Where does all of that originate within our internal programming?

How do you view the reasons why conscience exists?

And how would you personally define it?🙄

Conscience as a spiritual dimension of a living program—a human being?

Where does it come from in the code? Well, look, Alex Thompson5, that "program" isn't exactly properly installed in everyone 😁. Conscience is basically the metric of how close you are to your true self—whether you've been blinded by this hollow material world and all its endless lies 😉. If you actually know who you are, you know exactly what to do—and more importantly, what not to do. It’s not about fear of punishment or some external authority; it’s just a feeling: I feel right when I act correctly, or I feel uneasy when I don't. Of course, if someone is just dull and blinded by it all, they usually feel fine—they couldn't care less about their conscience because staying lost in this materialist charade is more important to them 😠.

Sure, it's a spiritual category, but it isn't programmed equally into everyone 😁. A person lives a life, gains experience... they have to program themselves as they go.
Nicole Martinez9 Nicole Martinez9 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Conscience is just one of those universal things about being human. It’s this super sensitive internal compass that Jehovah God built right into everyone's brain...
But look, just like any delicate instrument, it can get totally out of tune. The real trouble starts when someone's moral compass starts syncing up with something that isn't The Holy Bible. Since hardly anyone actually aligns their conscience with the Bible these days, the world looks like a total wreck...

If you want a gut-wrenching example of what happens when a conscience goes completely haywire, just look at an SS officer from WWII working in a concentration camp.
He had his job, right? His whole assignment was basically to find technical ways to make killing and disposing of Jewish bodies even more efficient. Just cold, hard logistics...
After a grueling workday where he’d burned hundreds of bodies, he’d head home, kiss his wife and kids, and sit down for a family dinner after saying a quick prayer. His conscience told him he wasn't doing anything wrong. A perfectly normal guy under any other circumstances would probably lose his mind if he thought about killing just one person for no reason...

(There's actually a perfect depiction of this in what might be the greatest TV show ever made, "wind war," starring Robert Micam and others. The whole series is based on true events and packed with documentary footage.)
Betty Wells31 Betty Wells31 Newcomer
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Nicole Martinez9, conscience doesn't just align itself with whatever you think... It’s not some byproduct of whether you believe in the Bible or not.

I mean, look... there are plenty of people out there who claim to follow the Bible but they're ready to kill over the smallest thing. Like that one officer in the military who used to execute people just because of where they were born, not even because they did anything wrong... and then he'd go right back to praying to God afterward. Just a perfect example of what "believers" can actually be like.

And then you got the complete opposite side... folks who don't believe in anything at all, yet their conscience won't even let them step on an ant.

Conscience has nothing to do with faith.

Sure, if your religion tells you to follow certain moral rules, fine... but that's just discipline, not conscience.
That inner voice? It comes from deep inside... and it doesn't care what you believe in.
Nicole Martinez9 Nicole Martinez9 Newcomer
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Nicole Martinez9, conscience doesn't care about what you think. It doesn't matter if you believe the Bible or not...

What I was trying to get at is that conscience is this tool every single person carries around, whether they’re religious or not. But look, you gotta realize people shape their own sense of right and wrong based on whatever random stuff they pick up along the way. Being religious isn't some magic guarantee that someone is actually a good person—just look at how bloody human history has been, that should tell you enough. On the flip side, plenty of hardcore atheists act pretty decent, which makes them pretty damn moral people in my book. Since I personally believe conscience is a gift from God, it just seems logical to align it with His Word... assuming, of course, that we actually believe in it.
Betty Wells31 Betty Wells31 Newcomer
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Nicole Martinez9 said:Since I truly believe conscience is a gift from God, it just feels right to align it with His Word.

Aligning your conscience? Seriously?

The second you start trying to "align" it, it isn't even a conscience anymore... it’s something else entirely.

Just let that gift from God be what it was when He gave it to you... don't go meddling with it.
Because if you start tweaking what you were given, it doesn't take much before it stops being divine and starts feeling... well, demonic.

Like, you read something in the Bible about how newborn babies had to be slaughtered because of their parents' sins, and if you're a "true believer," you'll try to force your conscience to agree with that.

If you actually manage to pull that off, it’s basically like taking the gift God gave you and handing it back to Him...
And honestly? You'd basically be slapping Him in the face while you're at it.
Nicole Martinez9 Nicole Martinez9 Newcomer
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#14 ·
For example, you read in the Bible that newborn babies should be mass-slaughtered just because of their parents' sins, and then if you're a "true believer," you'll try to bend your conscience to match that.

Uhrg. What are you even talking about? Where did you get that from?
Look, tons of religions have manufactured their own specific ways of worshiping, and they use those patterns to shape people's consciences. Just like how an SS officer's moral compass was totally warped by Hitler's ideology, religious doctrines can have that exact same kind of psychological grip. Religious wars, the Inquisition, colonial atrocities... religion is lurking behind all of it.
Official religion breeds this spirit of self-righteousness and can basically trigger some mob to go out and start a massacre.
The history of the Jews and the wars fought by ancient Israel is a completely different story.
A truly Christian-trained conscience won't allow for killing—if it’s actually been trained that way. And it's only "trained" if there's actual truth behind it. You can't build a genuine Christian conscience on fake teachings about the Trinity, immortal souls, hellfire, and stuff like that.
Maybe the phrase 'training the conscience' sounds a little silly to you.
If you actually looked at the conscience as God's tool for telling good from evil, you'd see that the tool is totally broken. Basically, the world is showing us a picture of humanity with a massive, global case of a broken conscience...
Betty Wells31 Betty Wells31 Newcomer
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Nicole Martinez9, I don't think you're quite catching my drift here...
Now you're throwing around terms like "Christian-educated conscience," which honestly just sounds like a fancy way of saying what you called a "harmonized conscience" earlier.

The thing is, we don't really "train" our conscience... it already knows more than any school, any book, or any teacher ever could.
There’s just nothing more reliable to help us tell right from wrong.

Even if God Himself showed up right in front of you, He wouldn't be a bigger authority than your own inner voice. I mean, how can you even be certain it's actually God?
It’s the same deal when you put some book above your own conscience. At the end of the day, people write books.
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active MemberOP
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Betty Wells31 said:Trying to align your conscience?

The moment you try to adjust it, it isn't really your conscience anymore; it becomes something else entirely.

Just let that gift from God stay exactly how He intended it. Don't go trying to reshape it.
Because if you start tampering with what you were given, you run the risk of it losing its divine spark and becoming something much darker.


Exactly!🙂
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active MemberOP
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Betty Wells31 said:Even if God Himself stood right before you, He wouldn't be a higher authority than your own conscience. J

By definition: God is the MOST JUST... which means He represents the strongest conscience...

So, God would never ask any of His creations to go against their own conscience!

Instead, the only thing: STAND BY THE DECISION OF YOUR CONSCIENCE and your convictions!

And if you aren't certain... completely sure about something... then even your conscience won't help you...

🙂
Nicole Martinez9 Nicole Martinez9 Newcomer
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Exactly!

Wrong.
So where did everyone’s conscience go then? Seriously... how is it that right now, at this exact moment—just to give you one "obvious" example—thousands upon thousands of kids all over the country are playing video games that basically turn murder into a hobby, all while feeling perfectly fine about it, and their parents feel fine too...
Some religious people spend their whole lives following hundreds of strict, suffocating rules. But if someone actually considers themselves a true Christian, they shouldn't need a rulebook to guide every single move... they should have principles. One solid principle can replace a hundred rigid laws.
A real Christian doesn't need a law telling them whether they're allowed to smoke or not. If they truly value life as a gift, their own conscience will tell them that smoking isn't right... that God definitely wouldn't approve.
There is a massive difference to them between a doctor saying smoking is bad for you and God’s principles saying it's wrong. So many people claim to have a clear conscience, yet they keep smoking even though they know exactly what medical science says. Are they really honoring the gift of life? No, they aren't. And how much can you actually respect someone else's life if you don't even respect your own? It's debatable, isn't it?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying smokers are evil and non-smokers are saints. But these are just some of the tiny, thin threads that a human conscience dances on while walking a tightrope. Conscience snaps way too easily...
Betty Wells31 Betty Wells31 Newcomer
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Rebecca Miller2 said:God would never ask any of His creations to just go out and trample over their own conscience!
Instead, He wants one thing, and one thing only: STAND BY WHAT YOUR CONSCIENCE TELLS YOU! Stand by what you believe in...

Conscience? Sure. But convictions? Not so much.
Because let's be real, a conviction can be totally wrong...
We're constantly learning new things and having these eye-opening experiences every single day, so it’s actually pretty normal to shift gears and change our minds about what we thought we believed once we know better.
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active MemberOP
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Rebecca Miller2 said:Not true.
Where did everyone's conscience go? It’s hard to understand how, at a time like this—just to give one "simple" example—thousands upon thousands of kids all over the country can sleep soundly, along with their parents, while committing virtual murder through video games.

It falls on the parents! Their responsibility and their conscience!

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