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Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
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#41 ·
Interesting. I've been turning this idea over in my mind for a few days now, and I've even spent some time digging through various articles online.

But, if I’m being perfectly honest, I have no desire to go experimenting with such things at this moment; heaven knows what might emerge from that mirror. Are there any specific methods of protection or similar safeguards one could employ?

For the time being, I think it's better to leave this as nothing more than a fairy tale, much like Alice in Wonderland. Perhaps when I happen to run into a rabbit, I'll give jumping into the mirror a shot.
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#42 ·
Oh, I see now....🙏 🙏 I just did a psychological deep dive into the Witch!
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#43 ·
not 🙂 Witches are just mixing Shadow with Mother Earth, but what actually comes of it?
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#44 ·
Hey, look, it’s not just about the shadow in Wicca 😁

It brings everything together—all of Nature, both the physical world and the Spiritual World
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#45 ·
yeah, at least they're pretending to 🙂
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#46 ·
and now I get it. Merging physical Nature with the Spiritual World in that same way I do... I didn't realize there were still others out there 😁 😁 though I don't really need rituals 🙂 just immersing myself is enough~~~~~.................

I'm curious how you all interpret the influence of the moon phases on human behavior and energy... are we on the same page there!?
Patrick Chase2 Patrick Chase2 Member
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#47 ·
Some council of American Wiccans put together a set of principles back in 1974, basically outlining what an American modern Witch should actually believe in. Apparently, there are a few different versions floating around out there, each with its own slight variations. They aren't meant to be commandments or anything—just more like a set of criteria to help define what it means to be Wiccan in the middle of all this chaos.

My apologies if I’m being a bit blunt with this forum subheader.Freeform style. 😁 😁 😁This is starting to feel a lot like a "religion."

Principles of Wiccan Belief 1. WE practice rites to attune ourselves with The Natural rhythm of Life forces marked by The phases of The Moon and The seasonal Quarters and Cross Quarter Creative Power in The Universe as manifesting through polarity Creative Power Lies in All People , and functions through The interaction of The masculine and feminin Spiritual World Collective Unconscious Inner Planes WE see religion , magick and wisdom in living as being United in The way One views The World and lives within IT Witchcraft - The Wiccan Way Witch control The forces within Her / himself that make Life possible in order to Live wisely and well without harm to others and in harmony with Nature WE believe in The affirmation and fulfillment of Life in a continuation of evolution and development of consciousness giving meaning to The Universe WE know and Our personal roll within IT

Principles of Wiccan Belief 1. WE practice rites to attune ourselves with The Natural rhythm of Life forces marked by The phases of The Moon and The seasonal Quarters and Cross Quarter Creative Power in The Universe as manifesting through polarity Creative Power Lies in All People , and functions through The interaction of The masculine and feminin Spiritual World Collective Unconscious Inner Planes WE see religion , magick and wisdom in living as being United in The way One views The World and lives within IT Witchcraft - The Wiccan Way Witch control The forces within Her / himself that make Life possible in order to Live wisely and well without harm to others and in harmony with Nature WE believe in The affirmation and fulfillment of Life in a continuation of evolution and development of consciousness giving meaning to The Universe WE know and Our personal roll within IT

Principles of Wiccan Belief 1. WE practice rites to attune ourselves with The Natural rhythm of Life forces marked by the phases of The Moon and the seasonal Quarters and Cross Quarter.

2. We acknowledge that our own intelligence carries a specific responsibility to look after our environment. We aim to exist in harmony with Nature, maintaining an ecological balance that fosters the fulfillment of life and consciousness as part of an ongoing evolutionary process.

3. We recognize a level of power that goes way deeper than what most people ever perceive. Since it’s so much more intense than the everyday stuff, some call it supernatural, but we view it simply as a natural potential that exists within everyone.

Principles of Wiccan Belief 4. We conceive of the Creative Power in the universe as manifesting through polarity - as masculine and feminine - and that this same Creative Power lies in all people, and functions through the interaction of the masculine and feminine. We value neither above the other, knowing each to be supportive to the other.

5. We view sex as pure pleasure, a symbol of life itself, and a vital source of energy utilized in both magical practice and religious worship.

6. We acknowledge the existence of both the external reality and the internal, psychological realms—often referred to as the Spiritual World, the Collective Unconscious, or the Inner Planes. It’s the interplay between these two dimensions that creates the foundation for magickal work and paranormal phenomena. We don't pick sides or favor one over the other; both are essential for us to feel whole.

7. We don't bow down to any top-down authority or rigid hierarchies. That's not our way. Instead, we show respect to the teachers, honor those willing to share their deeper wisdom, and recognize the people who’ve had the guts to step up and lead when it actually mattered.

8. WE see religion , magick and wisdom in living as being United in The way One views The World and lives within IT—a specific worldview and philosophy we call Witchcraft - The Wiccan Way.

Calling yourself a "Witch" doesn't actually make you one. It’s not about your bloodline, either, and it certainly isn't about stacking up titles, degrees, or initiations like trophies. Being a Witch is about something else entirely: it's about learning to control The forces within Her / himself that make Life possible in order to Live wisely and well without harm to others and in harmony with Nature.

10. WE believe in The affirmation and fulfillment of Life in a continuation of evolution and development of consciousness giving meaning to The Universe WE know and Our personal roll within IT.

Our only issue with Christianity, or honestly any other religion or lifestyle philosophy, is when their institutions start acting like they hold the monopoly on truth. It’s that gatekeeping—claiming to be "the only way" while trying to strip away everyone else's freedom and crush different ways of practicing faith or belief. That's where we draw the line.

As American Witches, we don't lose sleep over academic debates about the history of the Craft, where certain terms originated, or whether specific traditions are "legitimate." That's not our business. We're focused on the here and now—our present and our future.

We don't buy into the idea of absolute evil, and we certainly aren't out here worshipping some "Satan" or "Devil" figure just because that's what traditional American churches preach. Seeking power by making others suffer isn't our style, and we don't believe you have to step on someone else to get ahead.

14. WE believe that we should seek within Nature that which is contributory to our health and well-being.

I haven't been initiated into any specific tradition yet, nor am I really looking into it right now, but personally, I actually dig these principles.
Don't blame me for not translating them... if someone is truly fascinated by this stuff but doesn't speak English... then it’ll be best if they just translate them themselves. If a person is genuinely interested, that kind of effort will be worth the trouble. 🙂
Patrick Chase2 Patrick Chase2 Member
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#48 ·
I could probably write something here about the phases of the moon... but I’d rather just quote what Snake wrote in the last issue:

As for the moon..... we'll get into much more detail next time. Let Mother sleep.... even if we still call upon Her through her symbol!

That line actually makes me think... how smart is it, really, to write about symbols of power and how we summon them?
Because power is just power... it isn't good or evil, it's just potent.
We all know what happens when kids play with fire. Just because someone gets burned doesn't mean we should stop using fire... but still, burns aren't exactly fun.

Everything I know about witchcraft didn't come from some formal initiation, nor did I have to swear an oath to keep it secret for anyone.
I found my way there through paths that are open to anyone who is serious enough to actually start digging.

However, it raises the question of how wise it is to talk about knowledge that remains "occult"—or in other words, hidden ....

Maybe we could discuss that a bit before we move on to the shadow.
This isn't a casual chat topic. Working with the shadow is difficult and exhausting, not to mention terrifying. Speculating about it is just foolish and pointless once you actually encounter the dark side of yourself.

Trying to haggle over the price of getting into the club with the thrower is completely pointless. Entry costs what it costs, and there's no shady business allowed in this "club"!
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#49 ·
😁 know 😉
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#50 ·
Patrick Chase2 said:I could go on about the phases of the moon... but I’d rather just quote what Snake said in the last issue:

That line gets me thinking... how wise is it really to write about symbols of power when we're trying to call them down?
Power is just power... it isn't good or evil. It's just potent.
We all know what happens when kids play with fire. Just because someone gets burned doesn't mean we stop using fire... but still, burns aren't exactly fun.

writing about symbols! if you're mentally stable, nothing can touch you.
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#51 ·
Solaris said:😁 they know 😉

So why wouldn't they write it then? 🙂
Patrick Chase2 Patrick Chase2 Member
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#52 ·
I’m talking about the dark moon... and the shadows 😲
And no, I don't consider myself particularly "stable" by conventional standards... nor is that my goal 😁
Symbols that don't resonate with the "stable me" aren't really symbols anymore—they're just plain old characters 😛.

Those "animalistic" youths... honestly, I don't see the dark moon as any less significant than the full one. They're two halves of a whole. Every phase carries its own weight and energy. The only "highs" and "lows" I actually recognize are measured in elevation
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BTW, some older editions of Witch on Lin touched on this briefly... I can sense that energy, and maybe one day I'll actually figure out how to tap into it
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Hmm... it's interesting to see what astrology says about the moon and how it moves through the zodiac signs and houses
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Why don't you write something up...
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#53 ·
Sure, they’re two opposite poles, but it’s not like one is good and the other is bad. Both can have positive or negative effects.

Each phase hits different energies within us. A full moon phase... it taps into the most subtle ones.
It moves from the basic energies up to the finest.
Patrick Chase2 Patrick Chase2 Member
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#54 ·
Well... it kind of tracks with that whole fascist meltdown over at "religion" last weekend.😁 😁 😁

Here's a site with a calendar for the moon phases.

http://co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/moon_phas...ta_type=monMar
Edward Patel81 Edward Patel81 Active Member
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#55 ·
Last night, the moon was a razor blade in the sky... I actually cut myself on its edge.
Patrick Chase2 Patrick Chase2 Member
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#56 ·
Man, I actually loved those zoology labs!!!

The whole premise was nonsense, honestly—the way they sold it to us. Proving things that had already been proven hundreds of thousands of times over.
In reality, the goal was just teaching us how to handle the bloody business, rather than actually proving anything in vivo.

It didn't bother me much. It was actually quite a rush... feeling something alive opening up under my fingers, revealing the secrets of how it all works!!!

Grey mice and white rats... sourced directly from a top-tier research institute here in the USA.
To make sure everything was scientifically grounded, reproducible, and comparable to studies done halfway across the globe, the samples had to be as genetically similar as possible. Ideally, they’d be identical clones, but the tech isn't there yet... and besides, who's going to shell out that kind of cash just for students to play around?

For years, they just bred their own rats and mice down in the basement.
They called that wing of the basement "the stable".
The rule for maintaining a pure line is simple: you always breed siblings from the same litter.
That's actually how they developed the "prototype"... hell, I can't remember the exact name of the "strain"... something like CBGJ-6754.
It took fifty generations of brother-sister breeding to reach the level of genetic consistency needed for serious scientific work. Once that happens, the institute licenses the "strain"... and distributes it to institutions worldwide to run their experiments.
Every now and then, because mutations happen naturally, they have to "refresh the blood" using original samples from the primary reference institute.

(If the ventilation in the basement ever failed, the whole campus would reek. I couldn't tell if it was the mouse and rat waste, the urine, or the standardized food they were fed...

(To be continued...)
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#57 ·
jimmy said:So why wouldn't they write back? 🙂

They will, they really will. We're just waiting for them to get back. 😉
Patrick Chase2 Patrick Chase2 Member
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#58 ·
The Earth is entering its fertile season.
Light is finally reclaiming its ground from the dark.

It’s time to plant seeds—both in the soil and in our lives...
Around Imbolc, we were busy planning new projects; now, it’s time to actually get them off the ground.

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(By the way, anyone want to guess where the tradition of dyeing eggs—symbols of new life—actually comes from?😉 )
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#59 ·
Patrick Chase2 said:The Earth is entering its fertile season.
Light is finally winning out over the dark again.

Time to plant seeds—literally, and figuratively...
Back during Imbolc, it was all about planning. Now, it's time to actually get moving on those projects.

****
(anyway, guess where the tradition of dyeing eggs comes from—as a symbol of new life...😉 )

What are you, a Taurus or something? 😁 😁

Don't know about the egg thing, but you just reminded me of that song from Beautiful Village Beautiful Mountain 😁 😁 😁
Patrick Chase2 Patrick Chase2 Member
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#60 ·
I’m no bull, and my inner werewolf definitely isn't buying your moon theory (now that I've had a chance to double-check things...😉) 🙂

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