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Words of Wisdom

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Participants Nicole Mendoza27Daniel Chavez14Larry Scott5James Cruz6swiftcobra15Joseph Davis5swiftcobra43Aurbansailor68boldeagleBradley Fisher20ironbadger31granitesailor98Larry Fox5Ryan Ruiznorthernfalcon30Roger Allen3hiddenviper9Jacob Brooks54bluebison70David Young22Taylor Alvarez6Linda Kelly51Harold James9 โ€ฆ
Nicole Mendoza27 Nicole Mendoza27 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Who exactly are we supposed to call "the wise ones" here?๐Ÿ˜• ๐Ÿ˜•
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 Member
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#2 ·
To goes out to everyone who sees things my way.๐Ÿ˜

And by the way, itโ€™s "whom," not "who." Thatโ€™s just basic grammar, though knowing the rule doesn't necessarily mean you have any actual wisdom.
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 Member
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#3 ·
Hereโ€™s a little bit of my own narcissism for you:
A wise person is one who understands, rather than one who simply knows things.๐Ÿ˜‰
Larry Scott5 Larry Scott5 Active Member
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#4 ·
SVJESTAN said:WHO SHOULD WE ACTUALLY LABEL AS "WISE"?๐Ÿ˜• ๐Ÿ˜•

๐Ÿ˜• The person who actually kicks off a thread by asking WHO we should... etcetera...๐Ÿ˜‰

Otherwise, itโ€™s probably just those folks capable of taking their own life lessons and actually applying them to whatever mess they find themselves in, aiming for the most logical outcome.

There aren't many of them, though; people tend to be remarkably wise when they're busy judging everyone else's mistakes.๐Ÿ™‚
James Cruz6 James Cruz6 Member
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#5 ·
Iโ€™ve always felt that truly wise individuals are those who possess the ability to take their own knowledge and find meaningful, effective ways to actually put it to use in the real world... ๐Ÿ™‚
swiftcobra15 swiftcobra15 Regular
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#6 ·
To act rightly and to possess wisdom are one and the same. - M. Aurelius
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 Member
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#7 ·
Atlantic, Iโ€™m really glad you finally cleared up what your signature actually means. Honestlyโ€”youโ€™re one of my favorites on here.
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Joseph Davis5 Joseph Davis5 Active Member
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#8 ·
I'm curious about how various philosophical and religious traditions interpret the concept of wisdom. I can't recall if this discussion has been had here before, but in my view, it remains one of the most fundamental questions in any philosophical debate.๐Ÿ˜‰
swiftcobra43 swiftcobra43 Newcomer
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#9 ·
Wisdom is essentially a combination of intellect and spiritual fortitudeโ€”though there is a distinction to be made. You acquire intellect through raw talent or life experience, but true spiritual strength? That only comes from unearthing the subconscious depths within yourself.

The path toward wisdom invariably begins with sorrow.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#10 ·
Miller said:Wisdom is a blend of intellect and spiritual depth. While intelligence is something you sharpen through experience or raw talent, true spiritual strength comes from tapping into your own subconscious.

The road to wisdom usually starts with heartbreak.

I disagree!
Wisdom is simply what you gather by living life and observing the world around you.
Think of it as practical knowledge put into action!
urbansailor68 urbansailor68 Member
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#11 ·
Miller said:Wisdom starts with sorrow.

So does that mean I actually have a shot at becoming wise? ๐Ÿ˜•
๐Ÿ˜ข You already are.
boldeagle boldeagle Member
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#12 ·
What exactly is wisdom? Iโ€™m honestly not sure. Right now, the only thing that comes to mind is that nagging, humbling realization of just how little I actually know...
Bradley Fisher20 Bradley Fisher20 Active Member
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#13 ·
Real wisdom? It's knowing exactly when to shut your trap...
swiftcobra43 swiftcobra43 Newcomer
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#14 ·
I am of the opinion that wisdom has absolutely nothing to do with observing the worldโ€”that is to say, the external realityโ€”but rather concerns the internal landscape: the profound realization of one's own unconscious thoughts.

If we were to apply empirical knowledge to this, we would essentially be embarking on a formal thesis discussion. Perhaps such an argument could hold water if one were to categorize knowledge into "internal" and "external" domains and then attempt to synthesize them, but I would have to exert a significant amount of mental effort to formulate a proper rebuttal to that proposition! And frankly? I have no time for it!

The concept of "awareness of oneโ€™s own ignorance" might actually serve as the antithesis to my pointโ€”it is, in essence, an awareness of oneโ€™s own unconsciousness, a gradual process of transcending or uncovering the true self. It is through this that one truly attains consciousness regarding what they are not. That might be viewed as a negative definition, yet the prompt specifically calls for a positive one, does it not?

I suspect that sorrow plays a monumental role in this journey, or at the very least, marks its inception. However, I am referring to that genuine, soul-crushing sorrow that arises during the moment of self-discoveryโ€”the moment when one finally confronts their own unconscious impulses and hidden ideas.
ironbadger31 ironbadger31 Active Member
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#15 ·
Largo said:I'm really curious about how different philosophical or religious traditions approach the whole concept of wisdom. I'm not sure if this thread has popped up before, but honestly, I feel like it's one of those foundational questions that drives almost every deep philosophical debate out there.๐Ÿ˜‰

To me, wisdom is basically the sum total of all those life perspectives you actually put into practice. Itโ€™s something you pick up through raw experienceโ€”it doesn't necessarily depend on how much info you've memorized or how many degrees you have hanging on your wall.

The way I see it, most formal philosophical schools don't even really dive into that specific angle.๐Ÿ˜‰
A Anonymous Veteran
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#16 ·
obelix said:Wisdom is really just the sum of all those life lessons you actually put into practice. You pick it up through lived experience; itโ€™s got nothing to do with how much schooling you had or how many facts you've memorized.

Exactly,
you don't need a genius-level IQ to be wise, and you certainly don't need a PhD or some massive intellect to get it.
Joseph Davis5 Joseph Davis5 Active Member
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#17 ·
True, applying life philosophies in a practical sense makes perfect sense.
I also believe that wisdom isn't inherently tied to how much schooling someone has. Itโ€™s possible for naturally gifted individuals to reach profound insights and use them for the greater good, but for the rest of us who lack those innate predispositions, we probably need some trainingโ€”or perhaps "practice" is a better word.
Furthermore, while life experience can certainly help, it isn't a guarantee. We all know people who have lived through a million different things yet still lack any real wisdom.
Some argue that wisdom is simply realizing one's own ignorance or grasping the inherent sadness of the human condition. However, if we've agreed that wisdom is supposed to be liberating, then merely recognizing our predicament won't cut it. I think we need actual skills and tools to figure out how to move past an unsatisfying state of being.
Illegals says a wise person knows when to stay silent. Perhaps it's more accurate to say a wise person knows when to hold their tongue and when to speak up with the right words.
granitesailor98 granitesailor98 Newcomer
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#18 ·
If you look at it from a purely practical standpoint, wisdom is basically just experience in disguise. Itโ€™s funnyโ€”sometimes someone with tons of experience actually gives a much better answer than someone who hasn't lived through it yet. And honestly? That happens more often than not. Usually, wisdom belongs to the older generation who have already seen it all, so since Iโ€™m still pretty young myself... Iโ€™m not really looking to debate the whole concept of wisdom right now. Iโ€™d rather just do what young people doโ€”have some fun! Catch ya later.
Joseph Davis5 Joseph Davis5 Active Member
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#19 ·
The great Zen master Sheg Yen once distilled the essence of Wisdom in a few sentences.
''Wisdom isn't some abstract concept, nor is it just experience. Wisdom is simply the absence of ego.''
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
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#20 ·

Wisdom is basically just love and knowledge working together...

I don't get how anyone thinks you can have wisdom without actually knowing stuff.

Seriouslyโ€”how are you supposed to be wise if you're clueless?
Intelligence is just the engine, but love is what actually unlocks everything.

Knowledge without any heart just turns people into arrogant jerks.

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