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Starting a small business

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goldenlynx3 goldenlynx3 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2007
#141 ·
brightgardener40 said:I see a lot of questions popping up about running a small business, so I figured I'd start a thread where we can swap stories, ask questions, and help each other out.
As someone running my own shop, the biggest headache is being forced to pay dues to Deloitte—it’s a massive annual bill, plus extra based on what I pull in, yet I have zero clue what they actually provide in return. I walked into one of their regional offices once, and honestly, all I saw were people sitting comfortably in high-end leather armchairs. It makes me wonder if these organizations even serve a purpose anymore, or if they're just another layer of bureaucracy acting like the government.

hahaha... oh man!!
you hit the nail on the head.............it's a total coma!!!
We actually tried to start our own little shop once, but luckily, it seems like God or some angel was watching over us. Every time we showed up at the government offices with all our paperwork ready,
we’d run into someone who would give us such expert advice that we just turned around and walked right back out.
We didn't regret it one bit, but hey, if anyone wants to dive into that mess and is feeling super confident about getting the right info, good luck to them!!🙏
A Anonymous Veteran
3.6K messages
joined May 2005
#142 ·
Hey everyone,
I could really use some advice here if anyone has a moment.
We're getting ready to launch a line of souvenir goods—think specialty liqueurs, sweets, and stuff like that.
What specific details are required on the product labels?
Also, what kind of permits or documentation do we need to clear with the FDA?
Brenda Watson3 Brenda Watson3 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Feb 2007
#143 ·
You really ought to sit down and calculate the total cost of payroll plus benefits, utility overhead—think electricity, phone lines, maybe even rent—alongside your COGS and various other obligations such as sales tax, H&M fees, and those miscellaneous professional dues. Once you subtract all of those figures from your gross revenue, you will finally see where you truly stand; if I were to offer my own subjective assessment, I suspect you are likely operating in the black.
bluecrane16 bluecrane16 Member
21 messages
joined Apr 2007
#144 ·
Is it actually possible to set up a small business dedicated specifically to providing intellectual services? Does a category like that even exist in our system?
And would someone working for a federal agency be allowed to run a side business like that at the same time?

sorry if this is a silly question to ask😁
Grace Palmer39 Grace Palmer39 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2007
#145 ·
I thought I’d just go the Production understanding route, but I quickly realized that’s basically an impossible dream... (toolmaker life) so my next move is "retail"—god, why didn't I think of that from the start?

So...

Here’s what I need:

1. I need to be able to bill for services (basically finding a way to charge for using my CNC machines, even if they aren't officially registered...)

2. I need to be able to get an EIN or whatever—I have to import some pretty damn expensive machine parts.

3. Design services, brokering, stuff like that... it all comes down to how I write an invoice so I don't get screwed over.

4. And the absolute worst part is: once I import those parts and assemble a machine, how the hell do I sell the whole thing? I'm completely lost there...

Basically, all my plans went out the window when some bureaucrats started hitting me with requirements about manufacturing licenses and nonsense. Look, I left school a long time ago... if I have to pay, fine, no big deal—but don't waste my time making me learn stuff that has zero to do with my actual job.

In short... I do electronics, automation, PLC and controller programming, mechanical assembly, etc.

Rough? Yeah... whatever.

That's why people suggested either working "off the books" or opening an LLC.

Is there any way to set up a small business/sole proprietorship and work without getting crushed by all the paperwork monsters?

Any help would be appreciated.

I’ve been digging through endless documents and one thing caught my eye (NAICS 292420)—it says there's no need for specific certifications, but can I actually operate under that? It seems to cover general machinery manufacturing... or should I stick to brokering or wholesale retail?
A Anonymous Veteran
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joined May 2005
#146 ·
Has anyone here dealt with this type of small business before?
If I wanted to launch one, what kind of background do I need, or what specific professionals would I have to put on my payroll?
Regarding the animals being sold—do they have to come from certified breeders, or can I source them from any breeder out there? Also, how much oversight is there from the USDA or veterinary inspectors?
Am I allowed to manufacture my own pet food lines, and could I also get into making my own pet accessories or gear?
urbanranger18 urbanranger18 Member
20 messages
joined Apr 2007
#147 ·
Honestly, just set up an LLC. You’re spending the capital on the business anyway, so you might as well make it work for you. With an LLC structure, you can basically buy equipment from yourself as an individual and then write those costs off over a few years to save on taxes.

PS You should probably give that website a makeover so it actually looks professional.
Grace Palmer39 Grace Palmer39 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2007
#148 ·
Yeah... I've already poured everything into my small business—running an LLC through a buddy right now.
...but hey, I'm looking into setting up a formal corporation next... (you know, that old joke about shady invoicing and choosing your battles... learned that one from this forum...)

Websites? ...Do I even have any?

They’re great, though... haha... just don't have the time to deal with them...

Thanks for the reply...
urbanranger18 urbanranger18 Member
20 messages
joined Apr 2007
#149 ·
Grace Palmer39 said:Yeah... I've already poured everything into my small business—running an LLC through a buddy right now.
...but hey, I'm looking into setting up a formal corporation next... (you know, that old joke about shady invoicing and choosing your battles... learned that one from this forum...)

Websites? ...Do I even have any?

They’re great, though... haha... just don't have the time to deal with them...

Thanks for the reply...

Running an LLC through a friend basically means you'll end up losing both the business and the friend at some point.😁
You’ve got some really interesting products, so please fix up your website; it's pretty much unusable the way it is right now. It's such a shame.
Grace Palmer39 Grace Palmer39 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2007
#150 ·
It all started happening right when those inquiries with a bunch of extra zeros began rolling in...

No business of their own...they aren't our kind of people for partnerships...

Weak and divided—that’s basically our motto.

Don't bother browsing with Mozilla...just use IE...like 99% of my clients do.
frozenwalker4 frozenwalker4 Member
28 messages
joined Jun 2008
#151 ·
Grace Palmer39 said:It all started happening right when those inquiries with a bunch of extra zeros began rolling in...

No business of their own...they aren't our kind of people for partnerships...

Weak and divided—that’s basically our motto.

Don't bother browsing with Mozilla...just use IE...like 99% of my clients do.

I’m using IE, and this site is a total disaster....
Hire a designer to clean this mess up. That sketched-out bottom section is absolute garbage. The color palette and the scrolling text? A complete train wreck.
Just some friendly advice... no hard feelings! 🙂
Kyle Wilson7 Kyle Wilson7 Member
14 messages
joined Apr 2007
#152 ·
I've been through the whole entrepreneurship grind—started out doing side hustles and odd jobs as a business student, moved up to being a sole proprietor, and eventually ran an LLC. Honestly? In my book, the LLC is the way to go. With a sole proprietorship, you’re basically putting your entire life savings on the line if things go south, but with an LLC, you have that shield. Plus, it’s way less of a headache—you aren't constantly at the mercy of some local tax official. One time, a clerk told me I had to report higher profits than what was actually in my books just to hit a 30% margin... totally insane. I also think being subject to corporate tax (LLC) is better than personal income tax (sole proprietor), even though you can opt for corporate tax as a sole proprietor—but then you lose those little perks, like being able to pull cash out without keeping a strict petty cash log. Regardless, I'm leaning towards the LLC.
1. You can bring machinery into the company as an initial capital contribution, which is a bit of a pain because you have to pay for an appraisal, but you can always just buy equipment later once you've made some money using a standard purchase agreement—kind of like buying a car. Taxes are a given, but they're usually lower than the corporate tax rate. I won't get too deep into the weeds here, so definitely check with your accountant.
2. Getting an EIN is easy regardless of whether you choose a sole proprietorship or an LLC.
3. Invoicing is straightforward for both, though there is one perk to being a sole proprietor: you only deal with sales tax once the invoice is actually paid. For an LLC, the obligation hits the moment you issue the invoice, whether you've seen a dime yet or not.
4. This part is simple, and honestly, the LLC wins here. You can register for wholesale, retail, or manufacturing without needing specific massive facilities or certain degrees. Basically, for production in an LLC, you buy parts, import them as raw materials, and set a standard—say, for a workbench, you need 5 screws, 1 base, and 4 saws. You open a work order from the warehouse, pull the parts needed, assemble it, and boom—you have a piece of Tigman darkness or whatever you call it. The work order tracks the production cost: raw materials + labor + utilities + overhead. (Again, ask your accountant for the specifics, or I could give you some actual consulting—but that'll cost you). Feel free to ask if you're stuck on anything.
And a piece of advice from my own mistakes: don't take on a partner unless you absolutely have to. My former partner still owes me $50,000 after I sold him my half of the company, so now I'm sitting here with no friends and no cash.
Grace Palmer39 Grace Palmer39 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2007
#153 ·
Thanks, I already sorted most of it out—just some minor paperwork left and then I'm officially tied up with the LLC (see my previous post again)... yeah, whatever.

As for friends... honestly, that's just nasty. But hey, that's just how we roll, right?
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
244 messages
joined Oct 2012
#154 ·
Alright, let's get straight to the point. As a college student (high school grad), can I actually start my own sole proprietorship focused on digital marketing?
How exactly? What kind of setup? Where do I even begin?
Thanks!
Brenda Gray5 Brenda Gray5 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Apr 2007
#155 ·
Go into your settings where you live, or check out Quick HR. Honestly, I think you might need to register a business too.
cosmictrucker14 cosmictrucker14 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2007
#156 ·
You should double-check the Small Business Act to see which specific business category your idea falls under. There are free, tied, and privileged types... though I’m not entirely sure about the privileged ones—it might actually be a tied business, where they require you to have certain professional credentials or a master's certification. You might also want to look over the Small Business Regulations regarding operating out of residential spaces.
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
244 messages
joined Oct 2012
#157 ·
cosmictrucker14 said:You should double-check the Small Business Act to see which specific business category your idea falls under. There are free, tied, and privileged types... though I’m not entirely sure about the privileged ones—it might actually be a tied business, where they require you to have certain professional credentials or a master's certification. You might also want to look over the Small Business Regulations regarding operating out of residential spaces.

That bolded part is total garbage, and that's exactly what's stressing me out. Whatever, I'll just head down to City Hall and ask. If anyone else knows the deal, let me know. And being able to run this out of my house? That would be the dream.
Thanks for the help, everyone.
Steven Martinez3 Steven Martinez3 Newcomer
4 messages
joined May 2007
#158 ·
So, this company is basically telling me they’ll hire me on one condition: I have to set up my own LLC and work as an independent contractor. They want to pay me strictly on a monthly commission basis, which means my paycheck is going to fluctuate wildly depending on how much I actually pull in each month.

I really need someone to lay out all the hidden pitfalls here—though if there are any actual perks, I'm all ears.
Help me out, guys. This is urgent and I am honestly lost. I have no clue if I should even consider this or what kind of terms I should be fighting for before I sign anything...
Douglas Patel Douglas Patel Member
12 messages
joined May 2007
#159 ·
Steven Martinez3 said:So, this company is basically telling me they’ll hire me on one condition: I have to set up my own LLC and work as an independent contractor. They want to pay me strictly on a monthly commission basis, which means my paycheck is going to fluctuate wildly depending on how much I actually pull in each month.

I really need someone to lay out all the hidden pitfalls here—though if there are any actual perks, I'm all ears.
Help me out, guys. This is urgent and I am honestly lost. I have no clue if I should even consider this or what kind of terms I should be fighting for before I sign anything...

If you've never dealt with this kind of setup before, just watch your step.
The way they're doing this is basically forcing you to carry all the responsibility yourself. To be honest, I wouldn't call this a "job offer" at all; it's more like a B2B contract or a partnership.

It’s actually super common in industries like real estate.
Nicole Morris4 Nicole Morris4 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#160 ·
Hey everyone,

I was hoping I could pick your brains on something, so if anyone has a moment to weigh in, I’d really appreciate it:

Here’s the deal: I run a small business, and we're looking to expand into baking and food production specifically for delivery services—we won't have a storefront or anything, just a setup for making products and getting them sent out. We're planning to set up this production space right within my current property, though it would be its own dedicated area of about 200 square feet.

Does anyone happen to know what the specific technical requirements or building codes are for a kitchen space like that?

Thanks so much!

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