Eric Adams - Mayor of New York City, Part 4

Gary Cox2 said:Look, the minister is the one who actually issues the extension, not some local department.
How can you even claim the Department of Health didn't give the green light? For all you know, they said yes and the minister just said no.

I don't have a specific case in front of me, but it usually plays out like this: a higher authority simply overwrites the recommendation of a lower office, even when they're meddling in matters that fall squarely within that lower office's jurisdiction.

Sam Wright21 said:I don't have a specific case in front of me, but it usually plays out like this: a higher authority simply overwrites the recommendation of a lower office, even when they're meddling in matters that fall squarely within that lower office's jurisdiction.

Not necessarily. It’s not some set-in-stone rule. Besides, decisions about extending services are based on the public health service network established by Medicare. So, you can dig through those guidelines all you want; there's nothing wrong with following them since the network is officially laid out.
Basically, if things go sideways, it wouldn't be the fault of New York City—it would be on the federal government and Medicare, since they're the ones who dictated how the whole network functions.

driftingcrane18 said:Everyone is entitled to their opinion. 🙂

True enough. But there’s also no law against holding an actual, independent thought; it just seems to be a logistical impossibility for some, leaving us with nothing but a steady stream of mindless chatter.

Gary Cox2 said:Not necessarily. It’s not some set-in-stone rule. Besides, decisions about extending services are based on the public health service network established by Medicare. So, you can dig through those guidelines all you want; there's nothing wrong with following them since the network is officially laid out.
Basically, if things go sideways, it wouldn't be the fault of New York City—it would be on the federal government and Medicare, since they're the ones who dictated how the whole network functions.

I haven't the slightest clue; it could very well be 🤷

Gary Cox2 said:Mil Milkovich had competitions out for department heads and deputies just "a month" after the election. Look, I'm not defending him, but Mil Milkovich needs to get those department head openings filled ASAP.

As for deputies? They clearly aren't planning on hiring them. My guess is they won't even have them—just department heads and sector managers running around in these newly reorganized offices.

But it worries me. Time is slipping away, and honestly, it feels stupid to even hold these competitions a full year before a term ends. Time flies, and a whole year has already vanished. No one would bother doing this now. What can anyone actually accomplish in a single year? Nothing.

Sure, terms last four years, but once the administration shifts, you know you're basically out of luck and usually end up handing over the keys.

In a functioning society, you step down when your time is up. The people clinging to their department roles like their lives depend on it prove that we should probably limit these job openings to whatever time remains in the current mayor's term. It might be a legal headache, but it would definitely help NYC run more smoothly.

driftingcrane18 said:In a functioning society, you step down when your time is up. The people clinging to their department roles like their lives depend on it prove that we should probably limit these job openings to whatever time remains in the current mayor's term. It might be a legal headache, but it would definitely help NYC run more smoothly.

Yeah. But here’s the kicker: the longer they drag their feet, the less time there is left, and that scares off any decent candidates. Why bother applying? They look at the calendar and think, "Why deal with the headache when new elections are coming in eighteen months?" Nobody cares who wins after the vote, and let's be real—you can't get anything done in a year and a half. You can barely organize an office in that timeframe, let alone fix the city. We'd see way better talent if they'd just sorted this out at the start and given a crew a solid four years to actually work.

Anyway, whatever. We'll see what the end of the year brings. I'm deeply, deeply hoping that by January 2023, every single department has finished its hiring process.

Right now, they're still stuck in the hiring loop for that massive flagship agency, and that won't be wrapped up until autumn.

Jose Campbell2 said:Why say he "pulled through"? He’s still barking way above his weight class 😁

Man, you really sound like you're looking for a fight. ☕

Sam Wright21 said:It’s not as if you have any real clue what’s going on anyway 🤷

None at all, because he hasn't the slightest inkling of what his various municipal departments are actually doing. It’s perfectly standard for a mayor to be completely out of the loop.

If we were to tally up the number of cards played here, you would undoubtedly come out on top.

Look, we can't all be walking encyclopedias like you.

Because he clearly hasn't a clue what the various city departments are actually doing. It's totally standard for a mayor to be out of the loop on those details.

Do you honestly believe it's the Mayor's job to be auditing which doctors are due for retirement?

Gary Cox2 said:Mil Milkovich had competitions out for department heads and deputies just "a month" after the election. Look, I'm not defending him, but Mil Milkovich needs to get those department head openings filled ASAP.

As for deputies? They clearly aren't planning on hiring them. My guess is they won't even have them—just department heads and sector managers running around in these newly reorganized offices.

But it worries me. Time is slipping away, and honestly, it feels stupid to even hold these competitions a full year before a term ends. Time flies, and a whole year has already vanished. No one would bother doing this now. What can anyone actually accomplish in a single year? Nothing.

Sure, terms last four years, but once the administration shifts, you know you're basically out of luck and usually end up handing over the keys.

Frank Urban only ran those competitions for show. He already had his people picked out for those spots, regardless of whether they actually met the requirements or not.
That's exactly why Lovrić ended up in that role—even though he didn't meet the criteria. Frank Urban would just cancel the official search and appoint him as an acting director. That was his whole playbook throughout his term.
I guess Eric Adams' only real mistake is trying to do things the honest way.

Gary Cox2 said:Yeah. But here’s the kicker: the longer they drag their feet, the less time there is left, and that scares off any decent candidates. Why bother applying? They look at the calendar and think, "Why deal with the headache when new elections are coming in eighteen months?" Nobody cares who wins after the vote, and let's be real—you can't get anything done in a year and a half. You can barely organize an office in that timeframe, let alone fix the city. We'd see way better talent if they'd just sorted this out at the start and given a crew a solid four years to actually work.

Anyway, whatever. We'll see what the end of the year brings. I'm deeply, deeply hoping that by January 2023, every single department has finished its hiring process.

Right now, they're still stuck in the hiring loop for that massive flagship agency, and that won't be wrapped up until autumn.

In my opinion, they should have knocked this out immediately, despite all the lawsuits and complaints.

Honestly, the department heads aren't even the real issue here. From what I can see, they’ve all been swapped out for "acting" directors anyway. They aren't even opening up real job postings because, let’s be real, Eric Adams clearly doesn't have anyone left to install as his "loyalists." You guys actually believe these city job openings are transparent? Like anyone can just apply and get it? Just look at that new guy running Education. Whose crony is he? He barely knows the first thing about managing a massive municipal department...

And even if he does appoint permanent heads, so what? Half the old guard is still sitting pretty in high-level positions across every single agency. They basically rigged the whole restructuring just to keep their seats. It's absolute bottom-of-the-barrel stuff. And he just let it happen... all while the actual day-to-day operations are falling apart at the seams. Don't worry, though—I'm sure the dead weight in those offices isn't going anywhere. Why would they? There's zero work left to do. Who's to blame? He watched this happening for years; he knows exactly what's going on, yet here we are...

hollowmason64 said:Man, you really sound like you're looking for a fight. ☕

Look, we can't all be walking encyclopedias like you.

Because he clearly hasn't a clue what the various city departments are actually doing. It's totally standard for a mayor to be out of the loop on those details.

Do you honestly believe it's the Mayor's job to be auditing which doctors are due for retirement?

Frank Urban only ran those competitions for show. He already had his people picked out for those spots, regardless of whether they actually met the requirements or not.
That's exactly why Lovrić ended up in that role—even though he didn't meet the criteria. Frank Urban would just cancel the official search and appoint him as an acting director. That was his whole playbook throughout his term.
I guess Eric Adams' only real mistake is trying to do things the honest way.

But honestly, being "honest" doesn't change the reality that the clock is ticking. By the time he's halfway through his term, all the high-quality talent actually worth having will have moved on. They might have stepped up if he’d just made the call at the start.

Whether it’s ethical or not is irrelevant when you look at it from the perspective of the candidates. It’s basic logic. Nobody is going to jump into a job opening when they see they've only got two years left on the clock versus four.

The longer this drags on, the more it scares off anyone actually qualified enough to take the reins.

Sam Wright21 said:I haven't the slightest clue; it could very well be 🤷

You claim ignorance, yet you were quick enough to judge Eric Adams just because one doctor retired at 65—a move that had absolutely nothing to do with his administration.

...I'm not aligned with the Democrats, nor the Republicans, nor any of those fringe groups—none of them. 🤦 What this current administration—this little "crew"—has been doing since they took over New York City is reminiscent of those old sensationalist exposé shows on CNN; it’s like watching a staged production where the characters—you know, the usual suspects like the local activists and their cohorts—are just playing parts. 🤦 These self-proclaimed "activists" have somehow landed steering roles within the New York City government. 🤦 For most of them, their only real professional experience involves blowing—and please, try to follow me here—hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal budget 🤦 alongside various "donations" from global billionaires, which conveniently fund everything from high-end trips to luxury retreats to these performative public displays and the supposed "preservation" of historic buildings—buildings that are actually so dilapidated they practically sway whenever a breeze picks up. 🤦 I still can't get over how they acted during the aftermath of that major earthquake in NYC; this "crew" spent days banging pots and pans out of their windows at all hours of the night. It was completely tone-deaf considering the sheer panic gripping New Yorkers—especially the children—where even the slightest sound of a passing bus or a car would send everyone into a frenzy. But there they were, going BOOM, BOOM, acting like they were the only ones who felt anything. 🤦 Their immediate priorities? Endless internal debates over whether a street should be named after some obscure historical figure or another. They've slashed tax credits for families with multiple children, organized these weirdly regressive campfire-style gatherings alongside EDM festivals, and they're busy painting city benches rainbow colors. Now they want to paint crosswalks rainbow, and even design traffic lights to fit their specific aesthetic... meanwhile, New York City is drowning in trash and there aren't enough spots in daycare centers for the kids. 🤦

...Good grief, I almost brought a tear to my eye just typing this out. 😁 Though, I suppose if you're looking for a reason to disagree, you could argue that none of what I've said is true. 🤔

Frank Martin13 said:...I'm not aligned with the Democrats, nor the Republicans, nor any of those fringe groups—none of them. 🤦 What this current administration—this little "crew"—has been doing since they took over New York City is reminiscent of those old sensationalist exposé shows on CNN; it’s like watching a staged production where the characters—you know, the usual suspects like the local activists and their cohorts—are just playing parts. 🤦 These self-proclaimed "activists" have somehow landed steering roles within the New York City government. 🤦 For most of them, their only real professional experience involves blowing—and please, try to follow me here—hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal budget 🤦 alongside various "donations" from global billionaires, which conveniently fund everything from high-end trips to luxury retreats to these performative public displays and the supposed "preservation" of historic buildings—buildings that are actually so dilapidated they practically sway whenever a breeze picks up. 🤦 I still can't get over how they acted during the aftermath of that major earthquake in NYC; this "crew" spent days banging pots and pans out of their windows at all hours of the night. It was completely tone-deaf considering the sheer panic gripping New Yorkers—especially the children—where even the slightest sound of a passing bus or a car would send everyone into a frenzy. But there they were, going BOOM, BOOM, acting like they were the only ones who felt anything. 🤦 Their immediate priorities? Endless internal debates over whether a street should be named after some obscure historical figure or another. They've slashed tax credits for families with multiple children, organized these weirdly regressive campfire-style gatherings alongside EDM festivals, and they're busy painting city benches rainbow colors. Now they want to paint crosswalks rainbow, and even design traffic lights to fit their specific aesthetic... meanwhile, New York City is drowning in trash and there aren't enough spots in daycare centers for the kids. 🤦

...Good grief, I almost brought a tear to my eye just typing this out. 😁 Though, I suppose if you're looking for a reason to disagree, you could argue that none of what I've said is true. 🤔

I'm not either, but wouldn't it have been easier to just say: "I'm just obsessed with BM365..."

Anyway, how much private sector experience do Frank Urban, the current President, the DNC leader, and all those others actually have? Combined, probably nothing.

In my neighborhood, the sanitation is fine, no issues at all. I don't credit Frank Urban or Eric Adams for it, though; some people just do the job they're paid for. Don't make a big deal out of it.

Though, back when Frank Urban was around, you could say elite sanitation crews had to scrub his street at dawn just so he wouldn't get pissed off and mess with whoever was in charge of cleaning. You know how it is when the emperor decides to go for a jog and the leaves start falling.

Frank Martin13 said:...I'm not aligned with the Democrats, nor the Republicans, nor any of those fringe groups—none of them. 🤦 What this current administration—this little "crew"—has been doing since they took over New York City is reminiscent of those old sensationalist exposé shows on CNN; it’s like watching a staged production where the characters—you know, the usual suspects like the local activists and their cohorts—are just playing parts. 🤦 These self-proclaimed "activists" have somehow landed steering roles within the New York City government. 🤦 For most of them, their only real professional experience involves blowing—and please, try to follow me here—hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal budget 🤦 alongside various "donations" from global billionaires, which conveniently fund everything from high-end trips to luxury retreats to these performative public displays and the supposed "preservation" of historic buildings—buildings that are actually so dilapidated they practically sway whenever a breeze picks up. 🤦 I still can't get over how they acted during the aftermath of that major earthquake in NYC; this "crew" spent days banging pots and pans out of their windows at all hours of the night. It was completely tone-deaf considering the sheer panic gripping New Yorkers—especially the children—where even the slightest sound of a passing bus or a car would send everyone into a frenzy. But there they were, going BOOM, BOOM, acting like they were the only ones who felt anything. 🤦 Their immediate priorities? Endless internal debates over whether a street should be named after some obscure historical figure or another. They've slashed tax credits for families with multiple children, organized these weirdly regressive campfire-style gatherings alongside EDM festivals, and they're busy painting city benches rainbow colors. Now they want to paint crosswalks rainbow, and even design traffic lights to fit their specific aesthetic... meanwhile, New York City is drowning in trash and there aren't enough spots in daycare centers for the kids. 🤦

...Good grief, I almost brought a tear to my eye just typing this out. 😁 Though, I suppose if you're looking for a reason to disagree, you could argue that none of what I've said is true. 🤔

Well, even without digging through the rest of your commentary, it’s pretty obvious where your political allegiances actually lie 😬.

Robin Jones2 said:You claim ignorance, yet you were quick enough to judge Eric Adams just because one doctor retired at 65—a move that had absolutely nothing to do with his administration.

That doctor had her contract extended several times before this. In April, she filed for another extension, but they only gave her 70 days. Why would a woman work only during the summer months? So, she just took retirement. Now the clinic is effectively dissolved, and instead of patients being transferred to a new physician, people are left hanging in limbo with their medical records locked away in the Community Health Center administration office.🤷 If you start having coronary symptoms now, you can't get testing or even sick leave. It’s absurd.
We should follow the lead of places like Norway and let employees take three days off once a year to just vent to their boss, no doctors' notes or paperwork required.

Gary Cox2 said:Look, the minister is the one who actually issues the extension, not some local department.
How can you even claim the Department of Health didn't give the green light? For all you know, they said yes and the minister just said no.

How does a doctor retire and leave a vacuum where no replacement is even considered? Now 2,000 people are just left to fend for themselves.

jadetinker85 said:How does a doctor retire and leave a vacuum where no replacement is even considered? Now 2,000 people are just left to fend for themselves.

Take that up with Medicare and the Department of Health and Human Services.

As I recall, they are the ones responsible for assigning doctors and dentists to us.

jadetinker85 said:That doctor had her contract extended several times before this. In April, she filed for another extension, but they only gave her 70 days. Why would a woman work only during the summer months? So, she just took retirement. Now the clinic is effectively dissolved, and instead of patients being transferred to a new physician, people are left hanging in limbo with their medical records locked away in the Community Health Center administration office.🤷 If you start having coronary symptoms now, you can't get testing or even sick leave. It’s absurd.
We should follow the lead of places like Norway and let employees take three days off once a year to just vent to their boss, no doctors' notes or paperwork required.

Quincy:

jadetinker85 I can't even begin to process this. It's just ridiculous. Everything is falling apart and nobody seems to care. Honestly, I'm done. Just completely over it. Seriously, how does this even happen? A doctor hits retirement age and just walks out the door? No replacement, no backup plan, nothing? Now you’ve got 2,000 people left high and dry, just trying to figure out how they're supposed to get medical care. It’s absolute madness. Total incompetence.

Here we go again. Look, City Hall doesn't issue those decisions—that's strictly on the Department of Health and Human Services. All the NYC Department of Health can do is give their blessing or withhold it, but they don't have the final say. That’s all on Washington D.C. At the end of the day, the Department makes the call on whether someone keeps working after they hit 65. Period.

It’s the Department, not City Hall. Get it right.

Look, everything you're spewing here has nothing to do with New York City or the Mayor. It’s all on the Department of Health and Human Services. It wasn't City Hall that extended the hours; it was the Department. Because let's be real—they're the only ones with the actual power to pull that off.

How does a doctor just retire and leave us hanging without a backup plan? It makes zero sense. Look, the number of medical teams is set by the national health network, dictated strictly by the Department of Health and Human Services and Washington D.C. It’s got nothing to do with New York City or some local council. This is entirely on the federal government. Period.

Blaming the Mayor is a total waste of breath right out of the gate. It’s completely baseless. Look, the City can say yes or they can say no, but at the end of the day, Washington D.C. holds the cards because they're the ones actually issuing the ruling. The local agency doesn't even have the authority to handle legal or administrative acts like this—they aren't the ones making the final call. Period.

First, you file the request with the legal department at the New York City Department of Health over on Kennedy. They send back their response. Once you have that in hand, then you take it up to Washington D.C. You don't just show up at the Department with a rejection slip from City Hall.

jadetinker85 said:First, you file the request with the legal department at the New York City Department of Health over on Kennedy. They send back their response. Once you have that in hand, then you take it up to Washington D.C. You don't just show up at the Department with a rejection slip from City Hall.

Do you actually have proof that this individual received a denial?

And do you know if they were supposed to remain employed until age 70?

Naturally, in your view, Eric Adams is responsible for everything.