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Eric Adams - Mayor of New York City, Part 4

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Alex Roberts4 Alex Roberts4 Active Member
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#21 ·
Adam Diaz67 said:Spot on. Honestly, his situation is just like any manager performing a hostile takeover of another company. Or really, any corporate merger or acquisition. All the old management layers below the operational level get the boot. Operational management is put on thin ice, and if they slip up, they go too, making room for competent people from those specific departments. Most regular employees don't even care. Even then, the rank-and-file aren't exactly throwing stones at him (at least not in any significant number; lazy people are everywhere).

If he manages to just fix the system within these four years, that would already be huge progress. I mean, thoroughly auditing every department, handing out layoffs where they're deserved, and maybe even revising some collective bargaining agreements. Even though it might be expensive in the short term, it'd probably be cheaper in the long run to terminate current contracts. In a system like this, those contracts just protect the slackers and act as a weight around the necks of the good workers.

That's it right there. Precisely! Without that, the whole thing is just a total bust.
Rachel Barrett8 Rachel Barrett8 Active Member
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#22 ·
Alex Roberts4 said:Right. So Eric Adams got rid of the ringleader, but left the entire entourage of idiots behind. Under these new restructuring plans, they’ve just slotted themselves into various roles—giving themselves raises, promotions, director titles, whatever—essentially rewarding their own little clique because they haven't finished nesting them all yet, or maybe they needed to "save" them from being let go. Meanwhile, the actual talent gets left in the gutter, stuck working both for themselves and for their bosses' pockets.

Now we have these incompetent posers running around doing absolutely nothing or wasting time on nonsense while collecting massive paychecks. Huge salaries. And honestly? I don't even think this is against Eric Adams personally; it’s just that these people are fundamentally incompetent and overwhelmed. They won't let anyone actually capable near them because, you know, "threats." Eric Adams and his crew are amateurs. That’s not how you restructure an organization; you can't aim for the top if you leave a pile of rot right underneath it. So here we are: the same old crew still enjoying life and messing with the "little guys." All that work was for nothing.

Without competent management, he’s going to end up with zero results, or maybe a mediocre B-. Seriously, how dense do you have to be to not realize that when a new leader comes in, you have to shake up the entire management layer and rotate personnel if you actually want to achieve anything? You need to audit every single role using a "before vs. after" model—asking why things changed, how they changed... It’s a massive job, but it's mandatory. Absolutely mandatory.

If you want to handle big projects, you have to learn how to handle the small ones first.

Adam Diaz67 said:Spot on. Honestly, his situation is just like any manager performing a hostile takeover of another company. Or really, any corporate merger or acquisition. All the old management layers below the operational level get the boot. Operational management is put on thin ice, and if they slip up, they go too, making room for competent people from those specific departments. Most regular employees don't even care. Even then, the rank-and-file aren't exactly throwing stones at him (at least not in any significant number; lazy people are everywhere).

If he manages to just fix the system within these four years, that would already be huge progress. I mean, thoroughly auditing every department, handing out layoffs where they're deserved, and maybe even revising some collective bargaining agreements. Even though it might be expensive in the short term, it'd probably be cheaper in the long run to terminate current contracts. In a system like this, those contracts just protect the slackers and act as a weight around the necks of the good workers.

There is one glaring issue you missed (but hey, it happens), and it's the same thing Mustard and the Progressives forgot back in 2013 when we joined the European Union.
The good workers now have access to a free market of 500 million people.

While Mustard is playing chess with bureaucrats and paying off distractions, the actual talent is moving to 3PM.
Alex Roberts4 Alex Roberts4 Active Member
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#23 ·
It’s only a matter of time... If anyone actually bothered to take these new administrators and cross-reference their profiles with how they used to operate, I bet my bottom dollar you'd see the same old faces. Either the managers and assistant managers stayed exactly the same, or they became the right-hand men for the disgraced leadership just to keep those fat paychecks rolling in. Or, even better, they aren't officially "bosses," but they've been shuffled into high-level "specialist" roles to stay in power. Just ask for the list of everyone promoted in this little "inner circle" and demand a report on their track records—both past and present—and suddenly people start learning some very uncomfortable truths. 😍 Yeah, exactly... That’s been the go-to trick in public agencies for years. Nobody ever actually gets fired; they just retreat into the shadows and keep sucking up the budget. And then we act surprised when everything falls apart? We need an inspector like Frost on this. Nothing happens overnight, though—if you want actual results, you have to put in the work.
Alex Roberts4 Alex Roberts4 Active Member
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#24 ·
Rachel Barrett8 said:If you want to handle big projects, you have to learn how to handle the small ones first.

There is one glaring issue you missed (but hey, it happens), and it's the same thing Mustard and the Progressives forgot back in 2013 when we joined the European Union.
The good workers now have access to a free market of 500 million people.

While Mustard is playing chess with bureaucrats and paying off distractions, the actual talent is moving to 3PM.

Yeah, unfortunately. Totally agree.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#25 ·
Scott Peterson172 said:I actually know a few people working within the New York City government who have confirmed this exact situation. It seems like a massive chunk of the municipal workforce is essentially dedicated to sabotaging anyone trying to make progress. These employees are practically untouchable when it comes to being fired, and since they aren't happy about the shift in leadership, they spend their days doing the absolute bare minimum while messing with anyone who tries to change the status quo. They’re just coasting until retirement, praying that the next administration will be more like the old regime where they can live the high life without lifting a finger.

First off, how is that even possible?

So, go ahead and kick those helpless people while they're down, as if you're actually accomplishing something. 🤦

"Changing the administrative model," my ass...

Look, I’m certainly no corporate manager—heaven forbid—but if I were Eric Adams (and I am just as clueless about the specifics as he is), I would have demanded hard data from the unions, specifically the Sanitation Department, right at the start:
- Exactly how many trucks are missing and what equipment is lacking
- How many bins are broken or out of service
- The exact number of staffing shortages
- What their specific demands are (personally, I think a $7,500 net salary would be appropriate for that kind of labor)

And all of this should have happened nine months ago.

Because that is simply how logic works.

That should have been the priority, instead of this headless wandering and the constant bickering with Nikki Haley and various other displays of chaos carried out like a common street gang.

The guy is trying to play both sides, acting like a corporate CEO one minute and a mob boss the next.
electricdriver33 electricdriver33 Active Member
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#26 ·
Sam Wright21 said:They aren't just lowlifes, they're actually pretentious elitists, clearly... Eric Adams, Bandić, and a few other high-ranking bureaucrats will probably just chill in some comfortable opposition until they retire. Korlaet will likely end up back at university, since this whole thing was a massive mistake on his part.

Nikki Haley honestly would have been a way better choice.

You gotta be kidding me.
The golden glow on Nikki Haley's moral image has definitely started to tarnish...
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#27 ·
Alex Roberts4 said:Right. So Eric Adams got rid of the ringleader, but left the entire entourage of idiots behind. Under these new restructuring plans, they’ve just slotted themselves into various roles—giving themselves raises, promotions, director titles, whatever—essentially rewarding their own little clique because they haven't finished nesting them all yet, or maybe they needed to "save" them from being let go. Meanwhile, the actual talent gets left in the gutter, stuck working both for themselves and for their bosses' pockets.

Now we have these incompetent posers running around doing absolutely nothing or wasting time on nonsense while collecting massive paychecks. Huge salaries. And honestly? I don't even think this is against Eric Adams personally; it’s just that these people are fundamentally incompetent and overwhelmed. They won't let anyone actually capable near them because, you know, "threats." Eric Adams and his crew are amateurs. That’s not how you restructure an organization; you can't aim for the top if you leave a pile of rot right underneath it. So here we are: the same old crew still enjoying life and messing with the "little guys." All that work was for nothing.

Without competent management, he’s going to end up with zero results, or maybe a mediocre B-. Seriously, how dense do you have to be to not realize that when a new leader comes in, you have to shake up the entire management layer and rotate personnel if you actually want to achieve anything? You need to audit every single role using a "before vs. after" model—asking why things changed, how they changed... It’s a massive job, but it's mandatory. Absolutely mandatory.

Nikki Haley mentioned she is both disappointed and saddened by the current state of affairs in New York City, giving Eric Adams a failing grade of 2.

Has Tomašević managed to find his footing in New York City?

– I have maintained all along that these things take time; we are dealing with a massive bureaucracy. But a year has passed now, and I must admit my disappointment. Honestly, it's saddening. Tomašević was elected mayor by a significant portion of the electorate. Unfortunately, progress is moving at a snail's pace; a full year has gone by, and they still haven't even finalized the appointments for all the department heads. The administrative offices in New York City remain in disarray. His performance rating would not be high – she remarks.

Would he receive a passing grade?

– A failing one – she said with a laugh.

Read more at: - www.vecernji.hr
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#28 ·
Grimko said:Think of it this way—it’s a bit of a caricature, but bear with me. Imagine you have two different types of leaders. Person A is highly capable but definitely plays a little dirty; they're corrupt. Person B is completely honest, but they just don't have the skills to get things done. Now, let's look at the math on that. Person A pulls in a massive investment—let's say $10 million. Sure, they might pocket one million for themselves through shady means, but that still leaves $9 million poured directly into the community through successful projects that everyone benefits from. On the flip side, you have Person B. They manage to bring in maybe $5 million, but because they lack the competence to execute, the work ends up being half-baked and mediocre. When you step back and look at the big picture, Person A actually provides more value to society. Even with the corruption factored in, their net impact on the world around them is significantly higher than someone who is well-intentioned but simply ineffective.

It’s exactly this kind of mindset that keeps us stuck. This way of thinking is the reason we're struggling to get ahead and why the whole country feels like a total backwater in so many ways.

Sam Wright21 said:They don't have any actual criteria to follow; they’re just flying blind and making it up as they go.

So, you’re acting like you know exactly what they’re up to and what their master plan is? I mean, obviously, you're some kind of reorganization expert now, right?

Honestly, it’s just such an inflated mess. They won't even bother asking questions when they clearly have no clue what's actually going on or how things work.

Jesus, man, just let it go already. 🙂

I’m not saying he should hold back or anything, but honestly, there’s a good chance they’ll turn him down simply because he’s overqualified.

And honestly, that’s everyone's right. I still don't really see where you're getting this supposed "law" from.

PotLid said:Look, no matter how much you try to insult me or twist my words, the math doesn't lie. That $4.5 million figure you're obsessing over is still nowhere near the $18 million that needs to be pulled from the New York City treasury. So, honestly... just move on and stop trying to make this about you.

Of course it is, but it really comes down to how many cars we're actually talking about per unit. Are you seriously still sticking to that claim that he picked up 150 of them for only 4.5 million dollars? 😁

Honestly, you have such a sophisticated way of expressing yourself. It’s pretty obvious you’ve got some real education behind you.🤣🤣🤣

I always tend to tailor my way of speaking to whoever I'm chatting with.

German said:I honestly think the cost of Bandić's contract averages out to about $29 per day... 🤔 😁

60k dollars? Are you kidding me? For his fully loaded Audi 6? Look, if you can actually find me where to pick up one like that, I’ll gladly pay double. You can just pocket the difference as a finder's fee for doing the legwork.😁
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#29 ·
electricdriver33 said:You gotta be kidding me.
The golden glow on Nikki Haley's moral image has definitely started to tarnish...

Regrettably, I don't think so. 😢
She couldn't quite pull an idea together back when she held her ministerial post, but looking at the current landscape, she still seems to be a step above both the present lot and those common thugs.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#30 ·
hollowmason64 said:It’s exactly this kind of mindset that keeps us stuck. This way of thinking is the reason we're struggling to get ahead and why the whole country feels like a total backwater in so many ways.

So, you’re acting like you know exactly what they’re up to and what their master plan is? I mean, obviously, you're some kind of reorganization expert now, right?

Honestly, it’s just such an inflated mess. They won't even bother asking questions when they clearly have no clue what's actually going on or how things work.

Jesus, man, just let it go already. 🙂

I’m not saying he should hold back or anything, but honestly, there’s a good chance they’ll turn him down simply because he’s overqualified.

And honestly, that’s everyone's right. I still don't really see where you're getting this supposed "law" from.

Of course it is, but it really comes down to how many cars we're actually talking about per unit. Are you seriously still sticking to that claim that he picked up 150 of them for only 4.5 million dollars? 😁

Honestly, you have such a sophisticated way of expressing yourself. It’s pretty obvious you’ve got some real education behind you.🤣🤣🤣

I always tend to tailor my way of speaking to whoever I'm chatting with.

60k dollars? Are you kidding me? For his fully loaded Audi 6? Look, if you can actually find me where to pick up one like that, I’ll gladly pay double. You can just pocket the difference as a finder's fee for doing the legwork.😁

What's on the agenda? 😵 If they actually had a coherent roadmap to share, perhaps we wouldn't be left staring at the wreckage of their intentions, wondering what exactly they intend to pull next.

hollowmason64 said:It’s exactly this kind of mindset that keeps us stuck. This way of thinking is the reason we're struggling to get ahead and why the whole country feels like a total backwater in so many ways.

So, you’re acting like you know exactly what they’re up to and what their master plan is? I mean, obviously, you're some kind of reorganization expert now, right?

Honestly, it’s just such an inflated mess. They won't even bother asking questions when they clearly have no clue what's actually going on or how things work.

Jesus, man, just let it go already. 🙂

I’m not saying he should hold back or anything, but honestly, there’s a good chance they’ll turn him down simply because he’s overqualified.

And honestly, that’s everyone's right. I still don't really see where you're getting this supposed "law" from.

Of course it is, but it really comes down to how many cars we're actually talking about per unit. Are you seriously still sticking to that claim that he picked up 150 of them for only 4.5 million dollars? 😁

Honestly, you have such a sophisticated way of expressing yourself. It’s pretty obvious you’ve got some real education behind you.🤣🤣🤣

I always tend to tailor my way of speaking to whoever I'm chatting with.

60k dollars? Are you kidding me? For his fully loaded Audi 6? Look, if you can actually find me where to pick up one like that, I’ll gladly pay double. You can just pocket the difference as a finder's fee for doing the legwork.😁

Never. Honestly, how much sheer incompetence does one have to possess before they realize that New York City simply cannot afford to stand still?

hollowmason64 said:It’s exactly this kind of mindset that keeps us stuck. This way of thinking is the reason we're struggling to get ahead and why the whole country feels like a total backwater in so many ways.

So, you’re acting like you know exactly what they’re up to and what their master plan is? I mean, obviously, you're some kind of reorganization expert now, right?

Honestly, it’s just such an inflated mess. They won't even bother asking questions when they clearly have no clue what's actually going on or how things work.

Jesus, man, just let it go already. 🙂

I’m not saying he should hold back or anything, but honestly, there’s a good chance they’ll turn him down simply because he’s overqualified.

And honestly, that’s everyone's right. I still don't really see where you're getting this supposed "law" from.

Of course it is, but it really comes down to how many cars we're actually talking about per unit. Are you seriously still sticking to that claim that he picked up 150 of them for only 4.5 million dollars? 😁

Honestly, you have such a sophisticated way of expressing yourself. It’s pretty obvious you’ve got some real education behind you.🤣🤣🤣

I always tend to tailor my way of speaking to whoever I'm chatting with.

60k dollars? Are you kidding me? For his fully loaded Audi 6? Look, if you can actually find me where to pick up one like that, I’ll gladly pay double. You can just pocket the difference as a finder's fee for doing the legwork.😁

What kind of absolute joke is this "law"? You can go through all the motions and submit your application to the Board, even with a Master’s degree in hand, and you'll likely just face another rejection—regardless of how much sense your proposal actually makes.

And which fool would actually offer a position at the CIA to someone from that caliber? The government essentially footed the bill for his entire education, yet we’re still entertaining the idea of him holding any kind of authority. 😵

It isn't just about that one factor; any manager with even a shred of competence will naturally harbor doubts that such an individual lacks the genuine drive required to actually commit to the role.
Adam Diaz67 Adam Diaz67 Active Member
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#31 ·
@Kiss me

That's just rational thinking. You can't ever fully wipe out corruption or nepotism because at the end of the day, it's all driven by human greed. I guess the best you can hope for is that the people doing it are actually competent, so the net result ends up being positive for the company—or in this case, the city. The real difference is that in highly organized systems, they do it in much more sophisticated ways, so an average citizen gets good enough service that they don't really notice. Like, who actually cares if a $3 million contract for a new daycare center goes to a local contractor in a > through some backroom deal, provided the building meets all standards, finishes on time, and the city pays exactly what was agreed upon? Even if the owner shaved 10% off their margin and slipped a little cash under the table to secure the bid... is that corruption? Yeah. Is it illegal? Sure. Is it the job of certain agencies to prosecute it? Definitely. But as a citizen, I mostly care about whether I got what I paid for—in this case, the daycare. The real issue here is that everything in our system is overpriced, and even then, the overpriced stuff is usually junk. It's basically multi-level crime where you end up getting screwed anyway. Most people, myself included, probably just want quality service for our money. If you actually know a country where favoritism doesn't exist in one form or another, please enlighten me. I'm open to learning something new.

@Gingerina

If your job is eliminated and offered a different role instead, it's up to you as an individual to decide if you want to take it or go look for luck at another company. It doesn't matter if the new role pays less or has a lower title. It's an open position. Take it or leave it. Nothing new there. It's standard practice, even in private firms. And no, why wouldn't you hire someone with a Master's degree for a position that only requires an Associate's? If they're qualified and apply, they get the job. If they get it and then slack off, they get fired. There’s no such thing as overqualified; there’s only being underqualified for a specific role. Actually, every manager is probably thrilled if they can snag a better-educated worker for a lower-paying position.

The government didn't pay for anyone's education. Our parents paid for it through their taxes. You pay, I pay—everyone paying taxes in the US funds the education of US citizens.

@Sky Shark

People leave. But even within the system, you still have solid, excellent people who have the knowledge and the drive to do good work. If everyone were lazy, nothing would ever get built. You just need to implement a solid reorganization of the system. Some people might actually make great managers, but they never became them because they didn't have the right connections. Honestly, one of the biggest flaws in the current system is that you can't punish a bad worker or reward a good one. The collective protects the bad ones from punishment and blocks rewards for the good ones.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#32 ·
Adam Diaz67 said:@Kiss me

That's just rational thinking. You can't ever fully wipe out corruption or nepotism because at the end of the day, it's all driven by human greed. I guess the best you can hope for is that the people doing it are actually competent, so the net result ends up being positive for the company—or in this case, the city. The real difference is that in highly organized systems, they do it in much more sophisticated ways, so an average citizen gets good enough service that they don't really notice. Like, who actually cares if a $3 million contract for a new daycare center goes to a local contractor in a > through some backroom deal, provided the building meets all standards, finishes on time, and the city pays exactly what was agreed upon? Even if the owner shaved 10% off their margin and slipped a little cash under the table to secure the bid... is that corruption? Yeah. Is it illegal? Sure. Is it the job of certain agencies to prosecute it? Definitely. But as a citizen, I mostly care about whether I got what I paid for—in this case, the daycare. The real issue here is that everything in our system is overpriced, and even then, the overpriced stuff is usually junk. It's basically multi-level crime where you end up getting screwed anyway. Most people, myself included, probably just want quality service for our money. If you actually know a country where favoritism doesn't exist in one form or another, please enlighten me. I'm open to learning something new.

@Gingerina

If your job is eliminated and offered a different role instead, it's up to you as an individual to decide if you want to take it or go look for luck at another company. It doesn't matter if the new role pays less or has a lower title. It's an open position. Take it or leave it. Nothing new there. It's standard practice, even in private firms. And no, why wouldn't you hire someone with a Master's degree for a position that only requires an Associate's? If they're qualified and apply, they get the job. If they get it and then slack off, they get fired. There’s no such thing as overqualified; there’s only being underqualified for a specific role. Actually, every manager is probably thrilled if they can snag a better-educated worker for a lower-paying position.

The government didn't pay for anyone's education. Our parents paid for it through their taxes. You pay, I pay—everyone paying taxes in the US funds the education of US citizens.

@Sky Shark

People leave. But even within the system, you still have solid, excellent people who have the knowledge and the drive to do good work. If everyone were lazy, nothing would ever get built. You just need to implement a solid reorganization of the system. Some people might actually make great managers, but they never became them because they didn't have the right connections. Honestly, one of the biggest flaws in the current system is that you can't punish a bad worker or reward a good one. The collective protects the bad ones from punishment and blocks rewards for the good ones.

That's all well and good, but let's be realistic: an aerospace engineer or a corporate lawyer isn't exactly qualified to be a landscaper. And don't kid yourself into thinking anyone will actually believe you're applying for a role beneath your station out of sheer passion.

True, citizens have always funded everything through their taxes—money doesn't just fall from the sky into the state's coffers—but back then, those taxes covered the cost of university. Nowadays, on top of your taxes, you're expected to shell out extra for your kid's tuition.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#33 ·
Sam Wright21 said:What's on the agenda? 😵 If they actually had a coherent roadmap to share, perhaps we wouldn't be left staring at the wreckage of their intentions, wondering what exactly they intend to pull next.

Never. Honestly, how much sheer incompetence does one have to possess before they realize that New York City simply cannot afford to stand still?

What kind of absolute joke is this "law"? You can go through all the motions and submit your application to the Board, even with a Master’s degree in hand, and you'll likely just face another rejection—regardless of how much sense your proposal actually makes.

And which fool would actually offer a position at the CIA to someone from that caliber? The government essentially footed the bill for his entire education, yet we’re still entertaining the idea of him holding any kind of authority. 😵

It isn't just about that one factor; any manager with even a shred of competence will naturally harbor doubts that such an individual lacks the genuine drive required to actually commit to the role.

Nobody else is chiming in. But like I mentioned before—we don't actually have visibility into both sides of the equation here. We can't see what was officially offered or the specific reasoning behind why a deal might have been rejected. All we have to go on is you coming back to this thread over and over again to point out how those idiots over there failed to listen to you, despite the fact that you're clearly the expert in the room.

Quincy:
What kind of law is this? You can go through all the trouble of applying to the licensing board even with a Master’s degree in hand, but you’ll probably just get rejected anyway—regardless of how solid your credentials are.

I mean, who is actually crazy enough to offer a high-level executive role at the FBI to someone from a community college? It doesn't make any sense, especially when you consider the government already footed the bill for their entire education. 😵
What kind of "law" are we even talking about here? You’re the one who originally brought up the whole issue, asking if it was even legal to offer jobs that are beneath someone's actual degree level. Now you're questioning what laws are being broken? It feels a bit circular.
Oh man. 🤦

What’s the point of all that nonsense? It’s just some fool hiding behind legal technicalities to justify a layoff based on business needs.
Honestly, you’ve become an even bigger troll than Page.

Quincy:
I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit lately, just sitting here with my coffee and reflecting on how things seem to be shifting. It feels like we're constantly navigating these subtle changes that most people don't even notice until they've already happened. I remember back when I was first starting out, everything felt much more predictable, you know? You knew where you stood. Now, it's like the ground is always slightly moving under your feet. It doesn't necessarily mean things are going downhill—not at all—but there is definitely a different energy in the air. I try to stay level-headed about it, though. I think if you overanalyze every little ripple, you end up losing sight of the bigger picture. Just taking it one day at a time, staying calm, and seeing where the dust settles. hollowmason64 says:
If you happen to know of any country out there that actually operates without favoritism or cronyism creeping in through the back door, please, enlighten me. I'm genuinely open to learning something new.
No, I’m positive there aren't any. It's just like how I'm certain that even in the most perfectly organized system, you're still going to find a handful of outliers.
The real difference between us and a system like that is how they handle suspicion. In a setup like that, the second there’s even a hint of shady business or corruption, the person under fire just hands in their resignation immediately. They don't wait for an investigation or a trial. It’s just what you do. Honestly, it’s more about basic mental hygiene than anything else—just keeping your own conscience and reputation clean.
And besides, there’s that one big factor we have to consider—because, let’s be honest, most people don't look at things through your lens. It doesn't really matter if someone got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, as long as they managed to get some decent work done along the way.
That’s really where you see the core difference between those highly organized societies and what we have here—it all comes down to the mindset of the people living in them. In those places, using public funds or leveraging a government position just to line your own pockets isn't even up for debate; there’s no excuse they’ll accept for that kind of behavior. It's just fundamentally unacceptable to them.
It’ll only be a matter of time before most people in this country start thinking exactly like you—and honestly, if that happens, we’re pretty much doomed.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active MemberOP
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#34 ·
Jeffrey Long said:
says:
I'm referring to the 2018 tender—we're talking 6.168 million, 33 vehicles, and a timeline of 730 days.

Like your colleague suggested, you should probably drop a link here. Based on what you're saying, the 2019 bid from Bill de Blasio actually looks a lot more budget-friendly than the one proposed by Eric Adams...

The information is clearly stated in the linked Telegram post.

Do you people even read past the headlines?
dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
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#35 ·
dustymarlin10 said:Nah, it's more that public corporations are forced to buy supplies following the Federal Acquisition Regulation, whereas private companies can just do whatever they want. One of the big issues popped up when all those public procurement processes just hit a dead end and froze up.

Hmm.
So why did they freeze up?
Who actually pulled the plug?
And did the person who stopped everything even bother to find a backup plan?
Did anyone have a single clue what was about to happen?

Of course not.
Running New York City isn't exactly the same thing as hugging a tree in Central Park.
swiftmaker12 swiftmaker12 Active Member
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#36 ·
The only way Eric Adams could actually reverse this downward spiral would be to hire Elon Musk and his old man to run New York City's operations personally.
That’s really the extent of their capabilities.
If they actually took a little for themselves—just a bit—New York City might actually flourish under the leadership of those titans of American industry.

Besides, by the time the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 rolls around, New York City will probably have the world's first fleet of self-driving taxis—making the whole ordeal of buying cars for the administration and all those other bureaucrats completely unnecessary.
Adam Diaz67 Adam Diaz67 Active Member
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#37 ·
@Kiss me

I’m just being realistic, maybe a little cynical too. And no, people aren't actually resigning. You want an example of high-level shady dealings in a developed nation? Look at Hunter Biden and his dad Joe Biden. Or Ursula von der Leyen and those cozy emails with the CEO of Pfizer. Look at German politicians who land cushy seats at Gazprom after they finish their political careers. Or highly paid speakers representing corporations on behalf of former US presidents and senators. Even Switzerland and Austria have their own versions of maneuvering when it comes to procurement for new fighter jets. Now, if you’re implying that officials in a Scandinavian country resign for moral reasons, fine. Maybe they do. It's because they aren't corrupt. In those places, it's standard practice to have corporate reps sit on various boards. It's institutionalized corporatism and lobbying. Like I said, it's sophisticated. Here, the problem is just straight-up greed and backroom deals. Anyway, we're getting off topic.

@Sam Wright21

Both an engineer and a lawyer are technically qualified to be gardeners, gravediggers, or janitors. Jobs in retail or even much of service work don't require special degrees; you just need to be physically able to do the work and have some common sense. You pick things up quickly on the job. You don't need to show up with massive passion or go overboard with enthusiasm if you get the job. Just doing it responsibly, conscientiously, and getting your tasks done on time is enough.

In the US, even full tuition isn't exactly cheap, though compared to some places, it varies. I'm not sure what your point is exactly.
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#38 ·
I’m afraid I have to decline that particular request; I prefer to keep our interactions strictly within the realm of discourse rather than anything more intimate. kaže:
Nobody else is chiming in. But like I’ve already told you—we don't have any actual visibility into both sides of the equation here. We can't verify what was actually on the table or exactly why a deal fell through if it was rejected. All we have to go on is your constant refrain scattered throughout this entire thread, claiming that those idiots over there simply failed to listen to you despite your status as a top-tier expert.

You might not be aware, but those who actually bothered to look already know. It isn't exactly your responsibility to be in the loop, but it certainly is the responsibility of our city council members. As for why they rejected it? It’s because they can't—or more likely, won't—actually bother to decipher the blueprints. They’d much rather play dumb, pretending they see five-story buildings where the plans clearly call for two-story ones. And it’s the same old story playing out across every single borough of New York City. Somewhere between sixty and seventy schemes have already been shut down.

New York City is already such a wreck that we honestly expected this administration to finally steer us back toward some semblance of decent urban planning.

I had this sincere intention to show him the site, a plan that was actually put forward by an independent councilman representing a different district. But these people? They don’t actually do anything useful. Their entire existence seems dedicated to nothing more than performative politics. It’s the same pattern they used when they completely gutted my neighborhood association; instead of having two capable councilwomen—one of whom currently serves as the chair—we’re left with just one, and frankly, she seems both timid and utterly lost.

I suppose you expect some kind of romantic grand gesture from a stranger on the internet, but let’s be realistic—life rarely offers such unearned sweetness. If we were living in one of those overly sentimental Hollywood movies, perhaps I’d lean in, but out here in the real world, things are usually much more complicated and far less poetic. As expressed by:
What kind of supposed "law" are we even talking about here? You were the one questioning whether it was even legal to offer positions that require far less education than a college degree holds, and now you're asking me to identify some nonexistent rule? It’s a bit circular, don't you think?
Good grief. 🤦

Once again, you seem to be under the delusion that someone actually asked you a question.

Smotani2 As stated by:
Well, that’s certainly one way to put it. A single word, heavy with all the unspoken skepticism and weary resignation one can muster, yet lacking any actual substance to latch onto. It’s a minimalist starting point, I suppose, though it leaves quite a bit to be desired if we're actually looking for a conversation.
And why exactly did they come to such a grinding halt?
Who exactly was the one who pulled the plug?
Has the person who called for the halt actually laid out a viable alternative, or are they simply standing in the middle of the road, blocking traffic without any intention of pointing us toward a different route?
Did anyone actually see this coming, or were we all just sleepwalking into the inevitable?

Not at all. Of course not.
There is a profound difference between managing a metropolis like New York City and hugging a tree in a public park.

It seems to me that public procurement hasn't actually come to a complete standstill for the past year. If you look closely at the numbers, you can see they’re still moving forward with things like vehicle acquisitions, for instance.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#39 ·
swiftmaker12 said:The only way Eric Adams could actually reverse this downward spiral would be to hire Elon Musk and his old man to run New York City's operations personally.
That’s really the extent of their capabilities.
If they actually took a little for themselves—just a bit—New York City might actually flourish under the leadership of those titans of American industry.

Besides, by the time the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 rolls around, New York City will probably have the world's first fleet of self-driving taxis—making the whole ordeal of buying cars for the administration and all those other bureaucrats completely unnecessary.

I suppose a little bit of dark humor isn't the worst thing.😍
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#40 ·
The papers are throwing around numbers claiming there are about 3,000 to 4,000 kids left without spots in our city's preschools. Honestly, if those plans from the Možemovac crowd had actually gone through, we’d be looking at a shortage of 8,000 or even 9,000 little ones waiting for a seat. 🤦

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