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Eric Adams - Mayor of New York City, Part 4

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bluelynx8 bluelynx8 Member
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#61 ·
Jeffrey Long said:Do you honestly believe that "family connections" were the primary driver for getting hired as a sanitation worker at the Sanitation Department? 🤣

Go find that old Prince segment on YouTube where Williams was interviewing someone from the Sanitation Department. It might give you some much-needed perspective on what these people actually do for a living. 😉

I’ll concede that for the vast majority of jobs, connections were necessary, yes. "Nepotism" is just a colorful way of saying it's either a family connection, or the cousin's kid, or the little brother's sister, or whatever else... You haven't heard the stories about how even a janitor couldn't get hired without knowing someone from the Banditos, right?
I have a friend who landed a job as a driver for the MTA—a bus driver, specifically—and let me tell you, the level of political maneuvering required to secure that role during the Bloomberg era was absolutely massive.
Amanda Hughes37 Amanda Hughes37 Active Member
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#62 ·
bluelynx8 said:I’ll concede that for the vast majority of jobs, connections were necessary, yes. "Nepotism" is just a colorful way of saying it's either a family connection, or the cousin's kid, or the little brother's sister, or whatever else... You haven't heard the stories about how even a janitor couldn't get hired without knowing someone from the Banditos, right?
I have a friend who landed a job as a driver for the MTA—a bus driver, specifically—and let me tell you, the level of political maneuvering required to secure that role during the Bloomberg era was absolutely massive.

Unlike other cities🤣

Sure, there are places where they basically beg you to find anyone with two legs to fill those roles.
bluelynx8 bluelynx8 Member
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#63 ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:Unlike other cities🤣

Sure, there are places where they basically beg you to find anyone with two legs to fill those roles.

Look, I get it, 🤦 but how can we expect anything different when this country is the way it is...
Patrick Hughes72 Patrick Hughes72 Newcomer
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#64 ·
Jeffrey Long said:Do you honestly believe that "family connections" were the primary driver for getting hired as a sanitation worker at the Sanitation Department? 🤣

Go find that old Prince segment on YouTube where Williams was interviewing someone from the Sanitation Department. It might give you some much-needed perspective on what these people actually do for a living. 😉

Yeah, the old guard definitely got jobs as janitors... obviously, we're talking about the "low-level" connections...
I personally know two people who landed cleaning gigs at Waste Management through a connection. And if that's the case even for the "bottom tier" roles...
It doesn't mean they aren't hard workers now...but yeah, they definitely got those jobs through nepotism.
Gregory Hall66 Gregory Hall66 Active Member
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#65 ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:Dolenc told them back in April to get moving on enrollment—claimed there was plenty of room.🤣

They were busy lecturing everyone about priority enrollment for certain families and job placement perks for people under those specific programs... whatever happened to all that?

I just pointed out how they were acting more relieved than the parents when the court stepped in to halt their policy change. They acted like they tried to make it happen but failed because of some "criminal" court ruling—as if things wouldn't be a much bigger disaster if their plan had actually passed.

Absolutely spot on. 😁

DRAMA SURROUNDING NEW YORK CITY DAYCARE ENROLLMENT! Dolan: ‘Demands exceeded last year, yet fewer children enrolled’

It seems pedagogical standards and several other essential metrics have simply vanished from the equation.

Now we enter a brief period of respite and whining from the comfort of their activist bubble, before we inevitably face the new organic waste contracts. 🤣

As for the Fords, they’ve already settled that matter—modestly, and exactly as one would expect.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active MemberOP
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#66 ·
Does Adams somehow expect us to ignore the fact that car prices have skyrocketed over the last two years?
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#67 ·
Charles Clark3 said:A buddy of mine over at Berkshire Hathaway mentioned that about twenty drivers and another twenty staff members from the Sanitation Department quit today. Apparently, they were all waiting for their bonuses or vacation pay to hit ( $833 ) before walking out. Honestly, the current trash issues in New York City are nothing compared to the mess we'll be facing once everyone actually finishes their notice periods and leaves. I just hope we don't end up looking like Naples. Does anyone know if New York City is allowed to hire foreign workers? I really don't see any other way out—unless we start paying these truck drivers 10 $0.00 times what they make now.

I totally get why people feel the need to manufacture chaos and stir up panic—it’s because someone is naive enough to think it might... I don't know... force a change in the city administration sooner than expected.
..but honestly, this is probably the smartest thing you could 🙏

First off, vacation pay isn't handed out as a separate gift. Regers is paid alongside the regular paycheck. And usually, those payouts happen with the June salary.
Second—the day someone decides to hand in their resignation has absolutely nothing to do with their right to receive that pay.
And third—yeah, I'm pretty certain forty of them quit. All of them are skilled, trained professionals who are just sitting tight while waiting for better job offers to come in.

Jeffrey Long said:Do you honestly believe that "family connections" were the primary driver for getting hired as a sanitation worker at the Sanitation Department? 🤣

Go find that old Prince segment on YouTube where Williams was interviewing someone from the Sanitation Department. It might give you some much-needed perspective on what these people actually do for a living. 😉

What does that have to do with the nature of their work? It's not like anyone said the job was easy.
Besides, if you had some dim-witted relative who barely finished middle school, where else would you shove them if not into the Sanitation Department?
Even Milkica couldn't get much further than making coffee, but once she finished her advanced degrees, she actually moved up the career ladder.😬
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#68 ·
Charles Clark3 said:A buddy of mine over at Berkshire Hathaway mentioned that about twenty drivers and another twenty staff members from the Sanitation Department quit today. Apparently, they were all waiting for their bonuses or vacation pay to hit ( $833 ) before walking out. Honestly, the current trash issues in New York City are nothing compared to the mess we'll be facing once everyone actually finishes their notice periods and leaves. I just hope we don't end up looking like Naples. Does anyone know if New York City is allowed to hire foreign workers? I really don't see any other way out—unless we start paying these truck drivers 10 $0.00 times what they make now.

My trash was supposed to be picked up this morning, but my bin is still sitting there full on the curb
clearly those resignations are the cause; hopefully the new crew shows up soon because I'm just leaving this bin out until they deal with it
this is the first time I can actually remember them missing a pickup, looks like total chaos at the Sanitation Department
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
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#69 ·
bluelynx8 said:I’ll concede that for the vast majority of jobs, connections were necessary, yes. "Nepotism" is just a colorful way of saying it's either a family connection, or the cousin's kid, or the little brother's sister, or whatever else... You haven't heard the stories about how even a janitor couldn't get hired without knowing someone from the Banditos, right?
I have a friend who landed a job as a driver for the MTA—a bus driver, specifically—and let me tell you, the level of political maneuvering required to secure that role during the Bloomberg era was absolutely massive.

Those weren't just "rumors." They're actual procedures laid out in internal documents.

All hiring requests or contract changes go through the Human Resources Department, which then sends them over to the CEO of the Administration for approval. From there, they file a request for consent from the representative of the Corporation's General Assembly, the Mayor of New York City. Once the CEO gives the thumbs up, the Consent Issuance Service handles the formal request to the General Assembly representative—the Mayor of New York City. After the Mayor's rep signs off, the Hiring Consent Service passes everything back to whoever made the request. Basically, branch managers handle this at the local level, while Directors of Services manage it at the main headquarters.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#70 ·
So I was catching up with this guy whose cousin works for the Sanitation Department, and apparently, they’ve been grinding like absolute slaves for two months straight without even a single day off. They brought on 23 new hires recently, but 19 of them quit within five days of starting. Honestly, he’s betting that the remaining four won't last much longer either.
If things don't turn around fast, we're looking at a total garbage meltdown in New York City.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#71 ·
Patrick Hughes72 said:Yeah, the old guard definitely got jobs as janitors... obviously, we're talking about the "low-level" connections...
I personally know two people who landed cleaning gigs at Waste Management through a connection. And if that's the case even for the "bottom tier" roles...
It doesn't mean they aren't hard workers now...but yeah, they definitely got those jobs through nepotism.

I once met a collector who worked a route with a small cart; he was sitting there having coffee, looking perfectly comfortable. He told me straight up that you don't get one of those spots without a connection. His District spanned from Grand Central Terminal all the way to the Art Pavilion, and he’d breeze through it with ease. I used to look at the crews working near Central Park with a bit of envy too, because their pace seemed just as relaxed. But the guys on the heavy trucks? They're doing backbreaking labor.

gentlestag15 said:So I was catching up with this guy whose cousin works for the Sanitation Department, and apparently, they’ve been grinding like absolute slaves for two months straight without even a single day off. They brought on 23 new hires recently, but 19 of them quit within five days of starting. Honestly, he’s betting that the remaining four won't last much longer either.
If things don't turn around fast, we're looking at a total garbage meltdown in New York City.

If I were the Mayor, I would be making this my top priority immediately.
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
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#72 ·
Sam Wright21 said:I once met a collector who worked a route with a small cart; he was sitting there having coffee, looking perfectly comfortable. He told me straight up that you don't get one of those spots without a connection. His District spanned from Grand Central Terminal all the way to the Art Pavilion, and he’d breeze through it with ease. I used to look at the crews working near Central Park with a bit of envy too, because their pace seemed just as relaxed. But the guys on the heavy trucks? They're doing backbreaking labor.

If I were the Mayor, I would be making this my top priority immediately.

Look, if you actually want to rethink your opinion on how "easy" these jobs are, just click this link to an article about the chronic health issues caused by heavy manual labor in these specific fields.

Just read the conclusion. That should be enough to make you realize whether having a "connection" to land one of these jobs is even worth the physical toll.
Susan Jackson Susan Jackson Member
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#73 ·
gentlestag15 said:So I was catching up with this guy whose cousin works for the Sanitation Department, and apparently, they’ve been grinding like absolute slaves for two months straight without even a single day off. They brought on 23 new hires recently, but 19 of them quit within five days of starting. Honestly, he’s betting that the remaining four won't last much longer either.
If things don't turn around fast, we're looking at a total garbage meltdown in New York City.

If Bill de Blasio were still around, he probably would've just eaten the trash himself to solve the problem.🙂
Susan Jackson Susan Jackson Member
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#74 ·
Sam Wright21 said:That’s quite something. Though, I suspect you’re facing the same shortage of childcare slots we are; it isn't just some localized issue in New York City, but rather a systemic headache plaguing the entire USA.

Look on the bright side—living in an area where there's a shortage of childcare actually means people see a future there. It shows folks want to build careers and start families in your neck of the woods, which ultimately fuels the local economy and your own professional growth.
Just imagine if there wasn't a demand for daycare at all.
From what I understand, the problem often stems from trying to raise "standards" in a way that actually shrinks the number of available slots. Even as birth rates fluctuate, this creates a massive gap between what parents need and what's actually available.
Here’s a little free advice for Senf and the crew: why don't they follow the Kerum model and open a massive daycare center in the arena with 500 to 1,000 spots? They could let Lovrić and his team handle the childcare duties.🍿
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#75 ·
gentlestag15 said:So I was catching up with this guy whose cousin works for the Sanitation Department, and apparently, they’ve been grinding like absolute slaves for two months straight without even a single day off. They brought on 23 new hires recently, but 19 of them quit within five days of starting. Honestly, he’s betting that the remaining four won't last much longer either.
If things don't turn around fast, we're looking at a total garbage meltdown in New York City.

Man, that is just a total disaster. How does that even happen?
That’s just inhuman. Working two months straight without taking a single day of vacation is wild—at any job I've had, if they tried to make me work two months without a break, I'd be handing in my resignation on the spot. Seriously, nobody should have to deal with that. ☕

cosmicskipper39 said:Look, if you actually want to rethink your opinion on how "easy" these jobs are, just click this link to an article about the chronic health issues caused by heavy manual labor in these specific fields.

Just read the conclusion. That should be enough to make you realize whether having a "connection" to land one of these jobs is even worth the physical toll.

I guess when you only have a high school diploma and your options are limited to low-paying gigs, getting a spot with the Department of Sanitation—with a steady paycheck and guaranteed benefits—is probably worth pulling some strings for.
dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
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#76 ·
Robin Jones2 said:Does Adams somehow expect us to ignore the fact that car prices have skyrocketed over the last two years?

... so he's supposed to go out and buy a million of them right now?
When a household, a family, or even a regular business is hitting a crisis, buying new cars is the absolute last thing on the agenda.
You fix the holes in the roof first—the stuff that actually matters—instead of playing around with electric toys while the garbage trucks can't even find tires.
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
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#77 ·
Sam Wright21 said:Honestly, those truck drivers deserve at least $7,500 after taxes. If they have the right work permits, I don't see why companies shouldn't be hiring foreign workers to fill those roles.


I suppose they do. I just hope preschool teachers and school instructors are getting paid based on merit too. 🍿
Sean Peterson76 Sean Peterson76 Member
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#78 ·
Every Thursday, the sanitation truck rolls right into my company's courtyard.
Back when the Banditos were running things, nobody ever complained about it.
But look at them now—literally the first day after Eric Adams took office, and here they go: "We're such a small crew, the working conditions aren't great..."
Seriously, why didn't you guys say anything for years? Get lost.
Rachel Barrett8 Rachel Barrett8 Active Member
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#79 ·
Sam Wright21 said:Honestly, those truck drivers deserve at least $7,500 after taxes. If they have the right work permits, I don't see why companies shouldn't be hiring foreign workers to fill those roles.

darkhawk30 said:I suppose they do. I just hope preschool teachers and school instructors are getting paid based on merit too. 🍿

Driver salaries aren't actually about how much work they put in or how skilled they are. It’s much simpler than that. It really just comes down to a massive shortage of workers in the industry. When you can't find enough people to fill the seats, the pay has to go up just to keep things moving. Isn't that just how the market works?

It’s honestly pretty tough to find a decent driver down there. $3000 Exactly.

If teachers and preschool aides really think that salary is a massive windfall, they should try passing their certification exams first. Honestly, if they want to act like they're making a killing, they can go ahead and earn those credentials.
Jeffrey Long Jeffrey Long Active Member
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#80 ·
Rachel Barrett8 said:Driver salaries aren't actually about how much work they put in or how skilled they are. It’s much simpler than that. It really just comes down to a massive shortage of workers in the industry. When you can't find enough people to fill the seats, the pay has to go up just to keep things moving. Isn't that just how the market works?

It’s honestly pretty tough to find a decent driver down there. $3000 Exactly.

If teachers and preschool aides really think that salary is a massive windfall, they should try passing their certification exams first. Honestly, if they want to act like they're making a killing, they can go ahead and earn those credentials.

There isn't even a shortage of daycare providers, but then again, we don't exactly have a free market at play here...

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