Eric Adams - Mayor of New York City, Part 4

Gregory Hall66 said:First and foremost, the deterioration was driven by an absolute lack of action:
- systematic organization
- procurement

Not to mention the misguided political objectives that effectively paralyzed the entire system for several months.

At this point, the sin isn't what was done, but what wasn't done. 😁

Fine, maybe we reframed things a little, but let's look at 👍

The news article this user posted—erroneously thinking it supports his claims about how bad T.T. is—actually describes the situation perfectly. We inherited a neglected, corrupt, and inefficient mess from Bernie Sanders. It’s an uphill battle to make changes, even if they are starting to happen (slowly, but surely).

Regardless, I agree that we shouldn't expect quick fixes. Fixing the staffing, operational, material, and last but not least moral devastation left behind by the former mayor will take years upon years. 👍

darkhawk30 said:Just a quick reminder of how the system used to operate:

https://www.slobodnaevropa.org/a/hrv.../24687250.html

I I could go on all day. Just type in "Bernie Sanders" and "trash problems" and you'll see what I mean. You have to admit—that mountain of garbage is so massive that even if TT and his crew were literal magicians, they wouldn't be able to clear it out anytime soon.

As another user here put it: the whole system is completely out of whack.😉

frozenraven22 said:But you specifically claimed the "system has never been worse." Sorry to break it to you, but this forum keeps a record of previous posts. Better luck next time.

Quincy:

There were always problems, but they've reached a breaking point now.

Reached a breaking point how, exactly? What concrete moves by TT and their crew caused things to get worse?

Quincy:

A year is more than enough time to at least improve things a little.

Whether we're talking about Narnia, Interworld, or Westeros. In the real world, things aren't that simple.👎

I still maintain that the waste management system has never been worse.
About ten years ago, trash was picked up three times a week. Under Ed Koch, they cut it down to twice a week, and now it’s frequently only once a week.
On top of that, they're announcing a new collection method involving bags and price hikes.
We could also look at the bulk waste issues and the logistical mess of collection and disposal. Think about hauling stuff to a small town in Kansas to be crushed just to bring it back to Brooklyn, or moving it to Queens only to haul it all the way back to Brooklyn for landfilling. Don't you think that wastes massive amounts of time, resources, and money?
If you think everything was perfect before, then there's really no point in continuing this discussion.

There’s also the sin of just stopping procurement altogether. Halting the supply of spare parts is a self-inflicted wound. I’m just guessing here, but if you already face a three-month lead time for deliveries, pausing those orders for three months effectively turns a three-month wait into six. When you combine that with a fleet that was already aging and mostly patched together rather than properly maintained, you're just digging a deeper hole. It's obvious their parts inventory isn't sufficient. Honestly, they probably never had a decent stockpile to begin with because nobody planned for a total freeze on purchasing, and there wasn't much budget to bulk up on supplies before this anyway. So, you end up with what you have: a reduced number of lines that keeps shrinking because parts are missing.

Sure, he inherited a mountain of issues. The drop in service quality started long before Coca-Cola took over, but now everything has finally hit a breaking point.

Dukakis frozenraven22 said:Look, there it is right above. She’s already managed to snag the new director for the sleeve.
She managed to get under his skin, too. By driving him crazy, she effectively dragged him right down into that same gutter with the rest of the thieves and the incompetent hacks. 😬

I’ll be honest—as soon as I saw him, I felt a genuine pang of sympathy. It hit me right away. 😲

Alex Moore3 said:I still maintain that the waste management system has never been worse.
About ten years ago, trash was picked up three times a week. Under Ed Koch, they cut it down to twice a week, and now it’s frequently only once a week.
On top of that, they're announcing a new collection method involving bags and price hikes.
We could also look at the bulk waste issues and the logistical mess of collection and disposal. Think about hauling stuff to a small town in Kansas to be crushed just to bring it back to Brooklyn, or moving it to Queens only to haul it all the way back to Brooklyn for landfilling. Don't you think that wastes massive amounts of time, resources, and money?
If you think everything was perfect before, then there's really no point in continuing this discussion.

Cut the nonsense, stop the stalling, and quit trying to sugarcoat things. Let's go again: which ones are they? Straight to the point. The current administration's recent moves have completely backfired. It’s exactly what we feared would happen. Things are going downhill. Fast. The system? Please. It’s a joke.

Adam Diaz67 said:There’s also the sin of just stopping procurement altogether. Halting the supply of spare parts is a self-inflicted wound. I’m just guessing here, but if you already face a three-month lead time for deliveries, pausing those orders for three months effectively turns a three-month wait into six. When you combine that with a fleet that was already aging and mostly patched together rather than properly maintained, you're just digging a deeper hole. It's obvious their parts inventory isn't sufficient. Honestly, they probably never had a decent stockpile to begin with because nobody planned for a total freeze on purchasing, and there wasn't much budget to bulk up on supplies before this anyway. So, you end up with what you have: a reduced number of lines that keeps shrinking because parts are missing.

Sure, he inherited a mountain of issues. The drop in service quality started long before Coca-Cola took over, but now everything has finally hit a breaking point.

To be honest, I’ve heard the same thing—that they froze a lot of procurement.

If I’m being straight with you, it seems like the classic Tantalus dilemma: either you keep things moving and watch massive amounts of money bleed out, or you halt everything to put those contracts under a microscope.

I’m no genius.

Dukakis said:Look, you can see right above how she’s already managed to get her hands on the new director of the sleeve department...
she's already rattled him so much that he’s ended up on the same list of thieves and incompetents as everyone else.😬

Persistence is usually the engine of success, and the head of the agency should be focusing on actual operations rather than trivialities. If he's being driven to frustration by a simple inquiry within his own jurisdiction, he could have just stayed focused on the work he actually excels at. I honestly don't know if he has the temperament to take orders from people who lack basic manners, and frankly, I fear that might be exactly where he's headed.

frozenraven22 said:I’ll be honest—as soon as I saw him, I felt a genuine pang of sympathy. It hit me right away. 😲

Cut the nonsense, stop the stalling, and quit trying to sugarcoat things. Let's go again: which ones are they? Straight to the point. The current administration's recent moves have completely backfired. It’s exactly what we feared would happen. Things are going downhill. Fast. The system? Please. It’s a joke.

Regarding the spin, you're the only one lying here. In your neck of the woods, trash pickup works perfectly at both locations. Impressive, right?

Pure incompetence and lack of direction led us here. Everyone is saying the Department of Sanitation's fleet has been cut in half and they're losing staff. They don't have enough field workers—and I'm not talking about the office staff. When you freeze public contracts and stop hiring the people needed on the ground, this is exactly what happens.

frozenraven22 said:At this point, the sin isn't what was done, but what wasn't done. 😁

Fine, maybe we reframed things a little, but let's look at 👍

The news article this user posted—erroneously thinking it supports his claims about how bad T.T. is—actually describes the situation perfectly. We inherited a neglected, corrupt, and inefficient mess from Bernie Sanders. It’s an uphill battle to make changes, even if they are starting to happen (slowly, but surely).

Regardless, I agree that we shouldn't expect quick fixes. Fixing the staffing, operational, material, and last but not least moral devastation left behind by the former mayor will take years upon years. 👍

No, what we are witnessing is actually the sin of ignorance fueled by arrogance. This particular group seems to have placed blind faith in their activist slogans, concepts likely absorbed during some two-day seminar on waste management. 😉
The fundamental rule when attempting to overhaul a system is quite simple: allow it to function first, observe its mechanics, and only then proceed with reorganization and the implementation of new business models.

I maintain my position that the greatest curse falling upon these Smurfs was inheriting a system that, despite its flaws, was at least established and functional.

The veracity of the claims regarding neglect, corruption, and inefficiency is plain for all to see today. Wherever the system has been "improved," we encounter complications. Massive complications.

It is worth noting that the current administration itself spent over a decade doing everything in its power to ensure that very system remained inefficient and dilapidated.
They acted as a total Miner against every single proposal intended to improve it.
From the collection of bulk waste in Queens to the development of the incinerator.

lijencina1 said:And I’ll say it again—you know exactly how I was being shady, right?

I appreciate the passion, but we should probably work on the basics first—things like actual proof, solid arguments, and (based on these posts) actually reading what others write before responding.

Empty rhetoric and bluffing might fly at a local pub, but it doesn't hold much weight on a forum like this. 😉

Even the director of Waste Management eventually admitted there are major issues with trash pickup and asked residents to be patient.
So, when you claim everything is running perfectly just because your two specific spots are fine, you're being dishonest. You're ignoring the facts I linked, relying solely on your own word. It feels like you're just trolling at this point.😉

Gregory Hall66 said:No, what we are witnessing is actually the sin of ignorance fueled by arrogance. This particular group seems to have placed blind faith in their activist slogans, concepts likely absorbed during some two-day seminar on waste management. 😉
The fundamental rule when attempting to overhaul a system is quite simple: allow it to function first, observe its mechanics, and only then proceed with reorganization and the implementation of new business models.

I maintain my position that the greatest curse falling upon these Smurfs was inheriting a system that, despite its flaws, was at least established and functional.

The veracity of the claims regarding neglect, corruption, and inefficiency is plain for all to see today. Wherever the system has been "improved," we encounter complications. Massive complications.

It is worth noting that the current administration itself spent over a decade doing everything in its power to ensure that very system remained inefficient and dilapidated.
They acted as a total Miner against every single proposal intended to improve it.
From the collection of bulk waste in Queens to the development of the incinerator.

So, you think they're blessed?

My colleague already laid out exactly how things looked before. Apparently, you missed it, so let me refresh your memory.

Alex Moore3 said:Even the director of Waste Management eventually admitted there are major issues with trash pickup and asked residents to be patient.
So, when you claim everything is running perfectly just because your two specific spots are fine, you're being dishonest. You're ignoring the facts I linked, relying solely on your own word. It feels like you're just trolling at this point.😉

It's not "basically," it's factual.😁

But drop the trolling accusations. It's obvious you're way too emotionally invested in this. Instead, explain to me how you can possibly know I'm lying when I tell you my neighborhood's trash gets picked up right on schedule?
Did the Waste Management director say they aren't picking up trash for frozenraven22 on forumhaera? 😁

If you can't grasp the difference between a general systemic issue and an individual experience, you should stop wasting space here and leave the discussion to people who actually understand logic.👍

Standing here in Central Park, I find myself inclined to believe you, though I can’t say I have much faith in the rest of these loudmouths either.

Things took a turn for the worse, and frankly, they haven't improved an inch.

frozenraven22 said:It's not "basically," it's factual.😁

But drop the trolling accusations. It's obvious you're way too emotionally invested in this. Instead, explain to me how you can possibly know I'm lying when I tell you my neighborhood's trash gets picked up right on schedule?
Did the Waste Management director say they aren't picking up trash for frozenraven22 on forumhaera? 😁

If you can't grasp the difference between a general systemic issue and an individual experience, you should stop wasting space here and leave the discussion to people who actually understand logic.👍

I guess it isn't about whether your trash is collected regularly or not, but rather if the entire system is struggling. From your two examples, I suppose you can't really judge the system, which is exactly what you were trying to do—use those two cases to claim everything is running perfectly.

Bryan Edwards83 said:I guess it isn't about whether your trash is collected regularly or not, but rather if the entire system is struggling. From your two examples, I suppose you can't really judge the system, which is exactly what you were trying to do—use those two cases to claim everything is running perfectly.

Look, we agree on one thing: drawing conclusions about a massive metropolitan system based on your own anecdotal experience is—well, it's just wrong, isn't it?

darkhawk30 said:Just a quick reminder of how the system used to operate:

https://www.slobodnaevropa.org/a/hrv.../24687250.html

I I could go on all day. Just type in "Bernie Sanders" and "trash problems" and you'll see what I mean. You have to admit—that mountain of garbage is so massive that even if TT and his crew were literal magicians, they wouldn't be able to clear it out anytime soon.

I feel compelled to address the final two links. 😁
(The first two are negligible, birthed in the digital kitchens of TikTok’s inner circle and their associated niche portals)

The third link
Regarding Bernie Sanders:
"This phase of adaptation to the new collection method is reaching its peak, and you will rightfully see images in the media of overflowing bins from time to time—thank you for reminding us that we need more containers. But generally, things are progressing well, and by the end of the year, the system will be fully stabilized," stated Bernie Sanders.
He further remarked that the most vital aspect was "that New Yorkers have been paying one-third less on their utility bills over the last six months".

And then, predictably, the Democratic Party swoops in with their empty platitudes, utterly detached from providing any semblance of a coherent contribution:
Reacting to the crisis of waste heaps and overflowing bins, New York City Democrats believe the solution lies in implementing a personalized approach for every individual user.
🤦

With TikTok and his associates, such absurdities served as their primary opposition in the assembly.

One simply had to endure it.

The fourth link:

"The priority now is ensuring waste goes to our landfill and that starting Tuesday, we begin systematically addressing the concerns of residents in Georgetown, eventually securing a backup location for our landfill by 2018. Meeting the demands of the people in Georgetown is what led us here," says New York City Mayor Bernie Sanders.

A little trivia question for the forum: Who was it that effectively sabotaged the resolution regarding Georgetown back in 2018?

Gregory Hall66 said:I feel compelled to address the final two links. 😁
(The first two are negligible, birthed in the digital kitchens of TikTok’s inner circle and their associated niche portals)

The third link
Regarding Bernie Sanders:
"This phase of adaptation to the new collection method is reaching its peak, and you will rightfully see images in the media of overflowing bins from time to time—thank you for reminding us that we need more containers. But generally, things are progressing well, and by the end of the year, the system will be fully stabilized," stated Bernie Sanders.
He further remarked that the most vital aspect was "that New Yorkers have been paying one-third less on their utility bills over the last six months".

And then, predictably, the Democratic Party swoops in with their empty platitudes, utterly detached from providing any semblance of a coherent contribution:
Reacting to the crisis of waste heaps and overflowing bins, New York City Democrats believe the solution lies in implementing a personalized approach for every individual user.
🤦

With TikTok and his associates, such absurdities served as their primary opposition in the assembly.

One simply had to endure it.

The fourth link:

"The priority now is ensuring waste goes to our landfill and that starting Tuesday, we begin systematically addressing the concerns of residents in Georgetown, eventually securing a backup location for our landfill by 2018. Meeting the demands of the people in Georgetown is what led us here," says New York City Mayor Bernie Sanders.

A little trivia question for the forum: Who was it that effectively sabotaged the resolution regarding Georgetown back in 2018?

The exact same people who successfully sabotaged Horvatinčić's Cvjetni—which is to say, absolutely nobody. 😁

Nice try, but you’re going to have to do better than that. 👍

frozenraven22 said:So, you think they're blessed?

My colleague already laid out exactly how things looked before. Apparently, you missed it, so let me refresh your memory.

From what I can gather, things are both better and... more affordable.😉

As I have already stated, they are far from blessed; on the contrary, they are cursed.

Because they attempt to tinker with every single facet of the system, yet somehow manage to break everything they touch.
Is it any wonder they remain perpetually confused? 😁
Their fragile egos simply won't permit them to acknowledge the reality that trash was being cleared from the streets of New York City long before they ever arrived.

frozenraven22 said:Look, we agree on one thing: drawing conclusions about a massive metropolitan system based on your own anecdotal experience is—well, it's just wrong, isn't it?

True, but I guess you might agree that if trash pickup fails in just one single neighborhood, we could say the system is struggling? I mean, a system is only really "fine" if it works perfectly everywhere. It’s kind of like health, I suppose; you can be considered sick even if it's just a toothache, let alone if you have much bigger issues.

Melissa Bailey5 said:- hauling trash all the way to Pittsburgh, then out to Kraljevac, then back to Jakuševac (thanks X Corp)
- scrapping the special education program, which is currently tied up in court (thanks German)

Enrollment numbers for NYC preschools are lower than last year: 'Parents are in huge trouble, some might have to quit their jobs'

And you can just add the special ed kids to that list, since TT hasn't given a single thought to where they belong, and VUS basically just saved him from an even bigger disaster by pushing things off for a bit.

small correction: it's Celakoski, no "v"

I’m honestly struggling to follow what’s happening here. I’m firmly against state-mandated child support—your child is your responsibility, and unprotected sex isn't a business model—but I can't wrap my head around why this is sitting in court, let alone why it would be treated as some permanent, lifelong right.
Can someone catch me up?
It seems illogical that a decision made by any mayor—regardless of who they are—would be set in stone forever, immune to change.
I'm crossing my fingers that the courts reject this. It feels completely unnecessary and discriminatory; it’s an insult to all the responsible people out there working hard and taking care of their families rather than treating parenthood like a political calculation.