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Eric Adams - Mayor of New York City, Part 4

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Adam Diaz67 Adam Diaz67 Active Member
98 messages
joined May 2024
#1041 ·
hollowmason64 said:Open job postings are about transparency. Or at least, that's the idea.
And who's to say there isn't someone even more qualified waiting outside the system?
Anyone can apply to a posting, whether they're already on the payroll or totally external—so whoever is better gets the gig.
What's the issue with the Department of Justice?

It's in the fact that they canceled the competitions where the best candidates were insiders, just to leave in the ones coming from the outside. Doesn't that smell a bit fishy to you? If you don't want people from within because you think they're compromised, then you're stuck. You can't ban them from applying, and obviously, you can't just directly hire someone from the outside; I guess the only thing left is to keep canceling searches until someone who isn't part of the establishment wins. But if you do that, you aren't any better than the previous administration.

There are surely more capable people outside the system. As for how attractive it is to join Berkshire Hathaway, I have no idea. I'm skeptical when someone moves from the private sector to the public sector. Either they were mediocre in private and couldn't cut it, or they're tired of working and looking for a cushy spot. The cynic in me doesn't believe someone with a great private career would jump to a city firm on the verge of bankruptcy for a lower salary out of pure altruism.

And no, I don't think public job postings are always the best solution. In this case, I think a more elegant and practical move would have been to simply promote those 11 people and call it a day. If you think you can't find 11 honest, hardworking, and high-quality people in a company the size of Berkshire Hathaway to do the job, then I really don't know what to tell you.

Gary Cox2 said:Give me a break. Loves LA Galaxy? Great. Then he should be in the nosebleeds, not sitting in a VIP box with Jerry Maguire's thieves.

Seriously, stop defending this move. Whoever is advising him is doing a terrible job. He might as well go sit down with Jerry Maguire right now so we can drag him out of there later. But hey, he's the Mayor of New York City and a politician now.🙄

Being Mayor just means he has a bigger platform to show exactly who and what he won't tolerate.

We've seen this "I'm friendly with everyone / it's just politics / I don't want to, but I have to" crap for way too long. I really hope we don't see this kind of stuff happening anymore.

That defense—using the whole "he's the Mayor and a politician, he's good with everyone, he doesn't want to but he has to" line—doesn't work anymore. He can't use it. He already took a clear stance when he said yes to Pride Month and no to Markham & Co. That made it obvious that he doesn't have to be "good with everyone" and isn't equal to everyone. This VIP box thing was a bad move. He could have gone to the stands, hung out with regular fans, and shown support for Los Angeles FC while still making it clear he doesn't support the club's management.
granitefox16 granitefox16 Active Member
136 messages
joined Jun 2024
#1042 ·
Adam Diaz67 said:It's in the fact that they canceled the competitions where the best candidates were insiders, just to leave in the ones coming from the outside. Doesn't that smell a bit fishy to you? If you don't want people from within because you think they're compromised, then you're stuck. You can't ban them from applying, and obviously, you can't just directly hire someone from the outside; I guess the only thing left is to keep canceling searches until someone who isn't part of the establishment wins. But if you do that, you aren't any better than the previous administration.

There are surely more capable people outside the system. As for how attractive it is to join Berkshire Hathaway, I have no idea. I'm skeptical when someone moves from the private sector to the public sector. Either they were mediocre in private and couldn't cut it, or they're tired of working and looking for a cushy spot. The cynic in me doesn't believe someone with a great private career would jump to a city firm on the verge of bankruptcy for a lower salary out of pure altruism.

And no, I don't think public job postings are always the best solution. In this case, I think a more elegant and practical move would have been to simply promote those 11 people and call it a day. If you think you can't find 11 honest, hardworking, and high-quality people in a company the size of Berkshire Hathaway to do the job, then I really don't know what to tell you.

That defense—using the whole "he's the Mayor and a politician, he's good with everyone, he doesn't want to but he has to" line—doesn't work anymore. He can't use it. He already took a clear stance when he said yes to Pride Month and no to Markham & Co. That made it obvious that he doesn't have to be "good with everyone" and isn't equal to everyone. This VIP box thing was a bad move. He could have gone to the stands, hung out with regular fans, and shown support for Los Angeles FC while still making it clear he doesn't support the club's management.

Exactly.

Whatever anyone thinks about Željka Markić, she hasn't broken any laws. Sitting next to Barish and those other crooks would be a total slap in the face, but honestly, these guys are struggling with more than just ethics—they clearly don't even understand how democracy works.

Yesterday in the assembly, they were debating opening a construction waste dump near Resnick. Get this: the proposal includes an opinion from the Downtown district saying they aren't against opening a dump in Brooklyn... 🤣...but in that same damn proposal, there's zero mention of the Brooklyn council's opinion, even though they're actually against the plan... even the local representatives from the Democratic Party were against it.

It's all just a way to strip power from the lower levels and ignore the actual local councils and neighborhood boards.
🙏

Even Bandić wouldn't have thought of something this shady—just straight-up erasing the council's opinion because they're standing in the way of what you want to push through.
🙏
brightpuma brightpuma Active Member
128 messages
joined Jun 2024
#1043 ·
granitefox16 said:Exactly.

Whatever anyone thinks about Željka Markić, she hasn't broken any laws. Sitting next to Barish and those other crooks would be a total slap in the face, but honestly, these guys are struggling with more than just ethics—they clearly don't even understand how democracy works.

Yesterday in the assembly, they were debating opening a construction waste dump near Resnick. Get this: the proposal includes an opinion from the Downtown district saying they aren't against opening a dump in Brooklyn... 🤣...but in that same damn proposal, there's zero mention of the Brooklyn council's opinion, even though they're actually against the plan... even the local representatives from the Democratic Party were against it.

It's all just a way to strip power from the lower levels and ignore the actual local councils and neighborhood boards.
🙏

Even Bandić wouldn't have thought of something this shady—just straight-up erasing the council's opinion because they're standing in the way of what you want to push through.
🙏

Exactly.

Whatever anyone thinks about Željka Markić, she hasn't broken any laws. Sitting next to Barish and those other crooks would be a total slap in the face, but honestly, these guys are struggling with more than just ethics—they clearly don't even understand how democracy works.

Yesterday in the assembly, they were debating opening a construction waste dump near Resnick. Get this: the proposal includes an opinion from the Downtown district saying they aren't against opening a dump in Brooklyn... 🤣...but in that same damn proposal, there's zero mention of the Brooklyn council's opinion, even though they're actually against the plan... even the local representatives from the Democratic Party were against it.

It's all just a way to strip power from the lower levels and ignore the actual local councils and neighborhood boards.
🙏

Even Bandić wouldn't have thought of something this shady—just straight-up erasing the council's opinion because they're standing in the way of what you want to push through.
🙏
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
vividraven79 vividraven79 Active Member
178 messages
joined May 2024
#1044 ·
Exactly. You can't put a composting site out in Brezovica because the locals there will lose their minds. You can't build a landfill in Resnick because those residents will complain too. Even an incinerator is off the table since nobody actually wants one in their backyard.
I mean, damn, trash has to go somewhere to be recycled, sorted, or burned... everyone understands the logic. But apparently, nobody wants to be the one living next to it.
granitefox16 granitefox16 Active Member
136 messages
joined Jun 2024
#1045 ·
brightpuma said:Exactly.

Whatever anyone thinks about Željka Markić, she hasn't broken any laws. Sitting next to Barish and those other crooks would be a total slap in the face, but honestly, these guys are struggling with more than just ethics—they clearly don't even understand how democracy works.

Yesterday in the assembly, they were debating opening a construction waste dump near Resnick. Get this: the proposal includes an opinion from the Downtown district saying they aren't against opening a dump in Brooklyn... 🤣...but in that same damn proposal, there's zero mention of the Brooklyn council's opinion, even though they're actually against the plan... even the local representatives from the Democratic Party were against it.

It's all just a way to strip power from the lower levels and ignore the actual local councils and neighborhood boards.
🙏

Even Bandić wouldn't have thought of something this shady—just straight-up erasing the council's opinion because they're standing in the way of what you want to push through.
🙏

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
vividraven79 said:Exactly. You can't put a composting site out in Brezovica because the locals there will lose their minds. You can't build a landfill in Resnick because those residents will complain too. Even an incinerator is off the table since nobody actually wants one in their backyard.
I mean, damn, trash has to go somewhere to be recycled, sorted, or burned... everyone understands the logic. But apparently, nobody wants to be the one living next to it.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
brightpuma brightpuma Active Member
128 messages
joined Jun 2024
#1046 ·
granitefox16 said:I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.

The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.

If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
granitefox16 granitefox16 Active Member
136 messages
joined Jun 2024
#1047 ·
brightpuma said:I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.

The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.

If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.

The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.

If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.

The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.

If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.

The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.

If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
Empowering them doesn't mean the DoD and the VA suddenly become the sole decision-makers overnight. It just means there'll be more flow from the bottom up, with the DoD and the VA acting as the primary drivers and initiators.

The second issue here is that you guys just don't get how the New York City Council agenda actually works. You can't just cherry-pick the neighborhood council opinions you like and toss them into a proposal while ignoring the ones you don't. That's not how it functions.

If the rule is that every single opinion has to be on the agenda? Then I'm all for it.
It doesn't even matter how you spin what the Democrats were pushing before the election. Refusing to include the input of the actual body involved in the vote is more than just shady... it's a total violation of democracy, at best...

Just be decent, include him, vote differently, and act like you actually have some sense. This is basically the 1966 platform...

So they're actually pushing through this landfill in a neighborhood where nobody even wants it. The local council, the citizens' assembly, all the neighborhood boards... everyone is against it. Total joke...

So you're actually gonna include some input from that Downtown neighborhood council? They barely even have a say in anything. And you're planning to crush construction waste just 300 meters from someone's house and only 6 meters away from those Oranice-style community gardens that feed all of New York City... unbelievable...

Either Democratic or Green...

🙏🙏🙏
Samuel Lopez9 Samuel Lopez9 Active Member
77 messages
joined Mar 2023
#1048 ·
granitefox16 said:Exactly.

Whatever anyone thinks about Željka Markić, she hasn't broken any laws. Sitting next to Barish and those other crooks would be a total slap in the face, but honestly, these guys are struggling with more than just ethics—they clearly don't even understand how democracy works.

Yesterday in the assembly, they were debating opening a construction waste dump near Resnick. Get this: the proposal includes an opinion from the Downtown district saying they aren't against opening a dump in Brooklyn... 🤣...but in that same damn proposal, there's zero mention of the Brooklyn council's opinion, even though they're actually against the plan... even the local representatives from the Democratic Party were against it.

It's all just a way to strip power from the lower levels and ignore the actual local councils and neighborhood boards.
🙏

Even Bandić wouldn't have thought of something this shady—just straight-up erasing the council's opinion because they're standing in the way of what you want to push through.
🙏

Exactly.

Whatever anyone thinks about Željka Markić, she hasn't broken any laws. Sitting next to Barish and those other crooks would be a total slap in the face, but honestly, these guys are struggling with more than just ethics—they clearly don't even understand how democracy works.

Yesterday in the assembly, they were debating opening a construction waste dump near Resnick. Get this: the proposal includes an opinion from the Downtown district saying they aren't against opening a dump in Brooklyn... 🤣...but in that same damn proposal, there's zero mention of the Brooklyn council's opinion, even though they're actually against the plan... even the local representatives from the Democratic Party were against it.

It's all just a way to strip power from the lower levels and ignore the actual local councils and neighborhood boards.
🙏

Even Bandić wouldn't have thought of something this shady—just straight-up erasing the council's opinion because they're standing in the way of what you want to push through.
🙏
Yeah, seeing him there in the VIP lounge really rubbed me the wrong way too. It immediately flashed back to a few years ago when they let Mamić out of jail and he just strolls right into a game against some random underdog team... walks straight into the suite, and everyone around him just jumps up and starts clapping like nothing happened.
I mean, by sitting in that box, he can't just go around giving legitimacy to the current leadership. It's bad optics...
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
161 messages
joined May 2023
#1049 ·
vividraven79 said:Exactly. You can't put a composting site out in Brezovica because the locals there will lose their minds. You can't build a landfill in Resnick because those residents will complain too. Even an incinerator is off the table since nobody actually wants one in their backyard.
I mean, damn, trash has to go somewhere to be recycled, sorted, or burned... everyone understands the logic. But apparently, nobody wants to be the one living next to it.


We need to focus on public education and information. People aren't just going to start doing this on their own; that's a rare exception, not the rule.
Jack Hill2 Jack Hill2 Active Member
57 messages
joined May 2024
#1050 ·
By showing up at Maksimir, Eric Adams is signaling that his ambitions run much deeper than people realize. I don't see it any other way... It’s too early for definitive calls, but if you ask me, his reach goes even further than Bandić's.

Maybe I'm reading the room wrong, but I don't think anyone else in politics is this willing to get their hands dirty. He isn't just wading through the muck with the likes of Bandić, Mamić, Pripuz, Andrej Plenković, and Markić... it actually feels like he thrives in it. Like he's just waiting for the next fight.

He seems terribly "driven by success."

Everyone seems focused on the criticism, but to me, this looks less like him securing a new mandate and more like him ensuring there won't be a serious challenger in the next election. I suspect he’ll walk right over any standard candidate from the Republican Party or the Democratic Party...

People have a tendency to hand power to individuals like him.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#1051 ·
Adam Diaz67 said:It's in the fact that they canceled the competitions where the best candidates were insiders, just to leave in the ones coming from the outside. Doesn't that smell a bit fishy to you? If you don't want people from within because you think they're compromised, then you're stuck. You can't ban them from applying, and obviously, you can't just directly hire someone from the outside; I guess the only thing left is to keep canceling searches until someone who isn't part of the establishment wins. But if you do that, you aren't any better than the previous administration.

There are surely more capable people outside the system. As for how attractive it is to join Berkshire Hathaway, I have no idea. I'm skeptical when someone moves from the private sector to the public sector. Either they were mediocre in private and couldn't cut it, or they're tired of working and looking for a cushy spot. The cynic in me doesn't believe someone with a great private career would jump to a city firm on the verge of bankruptcy for a lower salary out of pure altruism.

And no, I don't think public job postings are always the best solution. In this case, I think a more elegant and practical move would have been to simply promote those 11 people and call it a day. If you think you can't find 11 honest, hardworking, and high-quality people in a company the size of Berkshire Hathaway to do the job, then I really don't know what to tell you.

That defense—using the whole "he's the Mayor and a politician, he's good with everyone, he doesn't want to but he has to" line—doesn't work anymore. He can't use it. He already took a clear stance when he said yes to Pride Month and no to Markham & Co. That made it obvious that he doesn't have to be "good with everyone" and isn't equal to everyone. This VIP box thing was a bad move. He could have gone to the stands, hung out with regular fans, and shown support for Los Angeles FC while still making it clear he doesn't support the club's management.

Public tenders aren't just some suggestion—they’re actually required by law. Even when someone is just going through the motions and following the letter of the law while completely ignoring the spirit of it, like that corrupt crook used to do.
I’ve told you before—if the company wasn't just handed down to you by your old man and actually belongs to the taxpayers, then you’re going to have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
The whole thing about canceling the job postings wasn't just some move to weed out the local crowd—because they turned away the outside applicants too. It’s pretty clear those candidates just didn't cut it during the testing phase or the interviews.


granitefox16 said:Exactly.

Whatever anyone thinks about Željka Markić, she hasn't broken any laws. Sitting next to Barish and those other crooks would be a total slap in the face, but honestly, these guys are struggling with more than just ethics—they clearly don't even understand how democracy works.

Yesterday in the assembly, they were debating opening a construction waste dump near Resnick. Get this: the proposal includes an opinion from the Downtown district saying they aren't against opening a dump in Brooklyn... 🤣...but in that same damn proposal, there's zero mention of the Brooklyn council's opinion, even though they're actually against the plan... even the local representatives from the Democratic Party were against it.

It's all just a way to strip power from the lower levels and ignore the actual local councils and neighborhood boards.
🙏

Even Bandić wouldn't have thought of something this shady—just straight-up erasing the council's opinion because they're standing in the way of what you want to push through.
🙏

I saw a few articles popping up today about that lady over on Maui driving her car right through the pedestrian zones. Honestly, she seems completely unbothered by how much the locals and visitors are pushing back against it. It’s pretty wild to see someone act like they're above the rules while everyone else is visibly annoyed. And, true to form, there wasn't a single police officer in sight to step in—which is exactly what happens every time she decides to cruise through those walking areas.
The rumors say she was slapped with a $15,000 fine, mostly because, being a woman, she just decided to claim the whole trip as her own.
Yeah, honestly, there’d be plenty of material to work with regarding her and how she chooses to interpret the law.

"Quote:"
granitefox16 said:I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
If most of those seats are actually held by the opposition instead of whoever happens to be running the show—is it really okay with you to just, as you put it, totally screw them over?
northernhawk33 northernhawk33 Member
18 messages
joined Feb 2023
#1052 ·
Sure, we can't have a composting site or a waste incinerator—but apparently, handing out construction permits right next to the thermal plant chimney in Jankomir or those residential blocks by Dom Sportova is totally fine.
Our local plants don't even bother with proper flue gas filters, so all those combustion particles just drift over the entire city.
If the city actually insisted on installing filters in these facilities, having an incinerator anywhere in town wouldn't be such a massive issue, would it?
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#1053 ·
Jack Hill2 said:By showing up at Maksimir, Eric Adams is signaling that his ambitions run much deeper than people realize. I don't see it any other way... It’s too early for definitive calls, but if you ask me, his reach goes even further than Bandić's.

Maybe I'm reading the room wrong, but I don't think anyone else in politics is this willing to get their hands dirty. He isn't just wading through the muck with the likes of Bandić, Mamić, Pripuz, Andrej Plenković, and Markić... it actually feels like he thrives in it. Like he's just waiting for the next fight.

He seems terribly "driven by success."

Everyone seems focused on the criticism, but to me, this looks less like him securing a new mandate and more like him ensuring there won't be a serious challenger in the next election. I suspect he’ll walk right over any standard candidate from the Republican Party or the Democratic Party...

People have a tendency to hand power to individuals like him.

We shall see.

Who knows. I see there isn't a shred of a policy platform to speak of, yet it certainly feels like there is a plan in motion—one that he intends to execute within this term. To be perfectly honest, I doubt more than 30% of his base would vote for him even today. That leads me to wonder what his endgame truly is and how he intends to blow through a budget that is the largest in our history.

"Driven by success"—it's glaringly obvious now. And really, how else does one climb the ladder to become the Mayor of New York City? He lacks specialized expertise, yet he's already surrounded himself with experts like Korlaet and Božić. In a four-year stretch like this, there is plenty of room to line one's pockets.
bluelynx8 bluelynx8 Member
11 messages
joined May 2024
#1054 ·
Sam Wright21 said:We shall see.

Who knows. I see there isn't a shred of a policy platform to speak of, yet it certainly feels like there is a plan in motion—one that he intends to execute within this term. To be perfectly honest, I doubt more than 30% of his base would vote for him even today. That leads me to wonder what his endgame truly is and how he intends to blow through a budget that is the largest in our history.

"Driven by success"—it's glaringly obvious now. And really, how else does one climb the ladder to become the Mayor of New York City? He lacks specialized expertise, yet he's already surrounded himself with experts like Korlaet and Božić. In a four-year stretch like this, there is plenty of room to line one's pockets.

Has Božić actually taken office yet? He is going to need plenty of time to deal with those remaining bandićevac types over there...
briskviper362 briskviper362 Member
20 messages
joined May 2024
#1055 ·
hollowmason64 said:Public tenders aren't just some suggestion—they’re actually required by law. Even when someone is just going through the motions and following the letter of the law while completely ignoring the spirit of it, like that corrupt crook used to do.
I’ve told you before—if the company wasn't just handed down to you by your old man and actually belongs to the taxpayers, then you’re going to have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
The whole thing about canceling the job postings wasn't just some move to weed out the local crowd—because they turned away the outside applicants too. It’s pretty clear those candidates just didn't cut it during the testing phase or the interviews.

I saw a few articles popping up today about that lady over on Maui driving her car right through the pedestrian zones. Honestly, she seems completely unbothered by how much the locals and visitors are pushing back against it. It’s pretty wild to see someone act like they're above the rules while everyone else is visibly annoyed. And, true to form, there wasn't a single police officer in sight to step in—which is exactly what happens every time she decides to cruise through those walking areas.
The rumors say she was slapped with a $15,000 fine, mostly because, being a woman, she just decided to claim the whole trip as her own.
Yeah, honestly, there’d be plenty of material to work with regarding her and how she chooses to interpret the law.

"Quote:"

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
If most of those seats are actually held by the opposition instead of whoever happens to be running the show—is it really okay with you to just, as you put it, totally screw them over?
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
If most of those seats are actually held by the opposition instead of whoever happens to be running the show—is it really okay with you to just, as you put it, totally screw them over?
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
If most of those seats are actually held by the opposition instead of whoever happens to be running the show—is it really okay with you to just, as you put it, totally screw them over?

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
If most of those seats are actually held by the opposition instead of whoever happens to be running the show—is it really okay with you to just, as you put it, totally screw them over?
If most of those seats are actually held by the opposition instead of whoever happens to be running the show—is it really okay with you to just, as you put it, totally screw them over?
Public tenders aren't just some suggestion—they’re actually required by law. Even when someone is just going through the motions and following the letter of the law while completely ignoring the spirit of it, like that corrupt crook used to do.
I’ve told you before—if the company wasn't just handed down to you by your old man and actually belongs to the taxpayers, then you’re going to have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
The whole thing about canceling the job postings wasn't just some move to weed out the local crowd—because they turned away the outside applicants too. It’s pretty clear those candidates just didn't cut it during the testing phase or the interviews.


granitefox16 said:Exactly.

Whatever anyone thinks about Željka Markić, she hasn't broken any laws. Sitting next to Barish and those other crooks would be a total slap in the face, but honestly, these guys are struggling with more than just ethics—they clearly don't even understand how democracy works.

Yesterday in the assembly, they were debating opening a construction waste dump near Resnick. Get this: the proposal includes an opinion from the Downtown district saying they aren't against opening a dump in Brooklyn... 🤣...but in that same damn proposal, there's zero mention of the Brooklyn council's opinion, even though they're actually against the plan... even the local representatives from the Democratic Party were against it.

It's all just a way to strip power from the lower levels and ignore the actual local councils and neighborhood boards.
🙏

Even Bandić wouldn't have thought of something this shady—just straight-up erasing the council's opinion because they're standing in the way of what you want to push through.
🙏

I saw a few articles popping up today about that lady over on Maui driving her car right through the pedestrian zones. Honestly, she seems completely unbothered by how much the locals and visitors are pushing back against it. It’s pretty wild to see someone act like they're above the rules while everyone else is visibly annoyed. And, true to form, there wasn't a single police officer in sight to step in—which is exactly what happens every time she decides to cruise through those walking areas.
The rumors say she was slapped with a $15,000 fine, mostly because, being a woman, she just decided to claim the whole trip as her own.
Yeah, honestly, there’d be plenty of material to work with regarding her and how she chooses to interpret the law.

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granitefox16 said:I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
I don't know how much their opinion actually matters. Maybe they left it out because they knew they were against it and didn't want to make it obvious.

Besides, if their input was truly decisive (or should be), nothing would ever get built. Locals are always going to fight these things.

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...

I wouldn't have an issue with this logic if you were all part of BM365 and Bandić was still mayor. But the problem starts when you claim to be voters and supporters for a party whose actual platform promised to empower local district councils and neighborhood boards. I don't recall reading anywhere that they'd suddenly start screwing over those boards for the "greater good." Or maybe we aren't reading the same manifesto?

The second issue is that you clearly don't understand how things actually get put on the New York City Council agenda. You can't just cherry-pick the opinions you like from the district councils to include in a proposal while tossing the ones you don't like in the trash.

Maybe you could if you were part of the Republican Party and BM365.

After the total mess with waste management and funneling cash to their own little clubs, now we're moving on to trampling democracy and basic procedures...
If most of those seats are actually held by the opposition instead of whoever happens to be running the show—is it really okay with you to just, as you put it, totally screw them over?
That's only half the story. From the very beginning, the "outsider" candidates had a massive head start, but as their true "talents" started coming to light—some even making headlines—the city simply had to walk away from them. Wherever there was an outside candidate who actually met the requirements, they landed the job, regardless of how much better the internal applicants might have been.
But when you end up with nothing left but an internal candidate or, worse, nobody at all, that's when the whole recruitment process gets scrapped. I know of at least two instances where the only people left were internal employees who actually met the criteria, weren't politically active, and didn't even come in looking for favors, yet they still didn't get picked.
gentlemoose57 gentlemoose57 Active Member
72 messages
joined May 2014
#1056 ·
northernhawk33 said:Sure, we can't have a composting site or a waste incinerator—but apparently, handing out construction permits right next to the thermal plant chimney in Jankomir or those residential blocks by Dom Sportova is totally fine.
Our local plants don't even bother with proper flue gas filters, so all those combustion particles just drift over the entire city.
If the city actually insisted on installing filters in these facilities, having an incinerator anywhere in town wouldn't be such a massive issue, would it?

Wait, where is that power plant located? Isn't it over by Zitnjak?

Those smokestacks are roughly 200 meters high. Now, I seem to recall back when we were doing engineering coursework about twenty years ago, we had to calculate the specific radius required from a chimney of that height to ensure particles actually reach ground level—I don't have the exact formula handy right now, but essentially, you're safest living right under the stack itself, because at least there, you're 100% certain the particulates haven't drifted your way yet.
Christian Myers Christian Myers Active Member
100 messages
joined Oct 2024
#1057 ·
Shocking behavior: One guy shouts an insult at a Možemovac DNC-ovac from the stands, while another calls the Democratic Party "bottom of the barrel"

Is the coalition falling apart? It’s funny how this is just labeled "shocking behavior," whereas when Prkačin acted up, it was a total disgrace and stayed in the headlines for days—rightfully so. I guess Prkačin is just a bigger name than some random guy from Nemožemovac
Casey Cook10 Casey Cook10 Active Member
77 messages
joined May 2024
#1058 ·
I mean, we might not actually be fixing anything, but I guess we'll just keep doing what we're good at—which is basically just being internet activists, I suppose.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#1059 ·
bluelynx8 said:Has Božić actually taken office yet? He is going to need plenty of time to deal with those remaining bandićevac types over there...

He takes over on July 18th, though I'm not entirely convinced he'll run into much friction from the old guard; after all, the hiring processes and various structural audits have been running steadily for years now, so it's not as if the machinery over there has completely ground to a halt.
nimblescout50 nimblescout50 Active Member
88 messages
joined May 2012
#1060 ·
I don't know, but I suspect those power plants in New York City might still be capable of running on fuel oil or some kind of heavy crude. Whether they’re actually firing them up right now, who knows—but come winter, they might have to—because relying solely on natural gas is always going to be a bit of a gamble when things get cold.

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