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Gold: Past, Present, and Future

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Participants Nancy Gomez26Henry Martinez27Michael Morgan5Melissa Sanchez17Larry Wilson25Robert Vaughn10Nathan Morris3Anthony Evans78Lisa White10hollowmoose21dustyheron5Daniel Barnes53fadedraven682velvetfalcon44rowdypilot19Taylor Edwards80Jeffrey LongJoseph Fisher2Gerald Palmer66Gregory Wells5Amanda Allen4hiddensailor14briskeagle3ironstag8 …
Nathan Morris3 Nathan Morris3 Regular
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#21 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:Attempting to "park" your capital—the literal fruit of your labor—in paper assets makes no sense in this current climate. If you want to gamble via trading, then fine, paper has its place. But what is the point of playing the game if you face a massive risk of losing everything you've accumulated simply because you stayed in the digital realm?
As for silver's dip today, it is nothing more than the same old script being played out yet again;
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...massive-volume

My rule for stocks is kind of like gambling (which isn't much different, I suppose)—only play with what you can afford to lose. Over the last few years, I've made enough from stocks that even if everything left in them totally tanks, I'd still be in the green. Maybe thanks to some gains from Donald Trump.
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
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#22 ·
So, here I am—just a big guy sitting in my Ford F-150.

I’ve gotta hand it to him, though... that Native American kid totally outplayed me. At least when it came to that last analysis. 😁
dustyheron5 dustyheron5 Regular
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#23 ·
Larry Wilson25 said:So, here I am—just a big guy sitting in my Ford F-150.

I’ve gotta hand it to him, though... that Native American kid totally outplayed me. At least when it came to that last analysis. 😁


I am bearish in the short term—looking toward the start of summer—but long-term? I am incredibly bullish. (Whether that's actually smart... well, we'll see.) 😁
hollowmoose21 hollowmoose21 Active Member
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#24 ·
Sweet. Maybe it was actually a smart move picking up some Twilio yesterday after all. 😁
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#25 ·
I ended up selling my position because I was chasing a measly 10 cents on a low-risk TPU. (if you haven't seen it, check out my two previous posts)

Honestly? I’m just not buying what Yelena is selling—I really don't think she's actually going to hike those interest rates in the third month.☕
Robert Vaughn10 Robert Vaughn10 Regular
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#26 ·
dustyheron5 said:I am bearish in the short term—looking toward the start of summer—but long-term? I am incredibly bullish. (Whether that's actually smart... well, we'll see.) 😁

You know what? I think we’re on the same page.
Still, everything looks incredibly "diluted" to me when looking back over the last 50—if not 80—years.
It’s tricky. You never truly know when it might strike.
Some primal ideas were born and calculated a long time ago... they haven't escaped notice.
If I’m being blunt, I just want my stance to be clear. Just cleaning up the record.

"borrowing banking equipment"
Melissa Sanchez17 Melissa Sanchez17 Regular
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#27 ·
Larry Wilson25 said:I ended up selling my position because I was chasing a measly 10 cents on a low-risk TPU. (if you haven't seen it, check out my two previous posts)

Honestly? I’m just not buying what Yelena is selling—I really don't think she's actually going to hike those interest rates in the third month.☕

Oh, she totally will.
She's gotta hike them—otherwise, if another crisis hits or we slide into a recession, there won't be any room left to cut.😁
Anthony Evans78 Anthony Evans78 Regular
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#28 ·
I honestly think they'll just hike things up so they have someone to blame when everything goes south with Trump later on.🙂
Robert Vaughn10 Robert Vaughn10 Regular
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#29 ·
You know exactly where I stand, Mr. Banker. If you'll allow me to be polite, I’ll address everyone here. But you won't.😉 In that spirit... effective today... I am implementing... highly critical... new duty hours regarding the precious metals market.

"an extra thirty minutes per day"
Daniel Barnes53 Daniel Barnes53 Member
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#30 ·
Here I am again. Looking at those Twilio levels around $3—it's an interesting spot to be in, but if things start to slide, it could easily drop down to $2.70.
dustyheron5 dustyheron5 Regular
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#31 ·
Gold ought to bounce off the $1,210 mark—if that actually happens, you’re going to have a hard time picking up Twilio at $2.70.

We'll find out soon enough; the Fed is practically itching to hike interest rates.—
fadedraven682 fadedraven682 Newcomer
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#32 ·
For the uninitiated, what's the actual connection between Federal Reserve interest rates and the price of gold?
Melissa Sanchez17 Melissa Sanchez17 Regular
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#33 ·
fadedraven682 said:For the uninitiated, what's the actual connection between Federal Reserve interest rates and the price of gold?

Absolutely none.
Anthony Evans78 Anthony Evans78 Regular
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#34 ·
Not exactly a masterpiece... 🙂
The Federal Reserve gives commercial banks the green light to dump a few thousand futures contracts whenever they need to manipulate prices. 😁
It’s pretty typical for all sorts of chaos to break out right before an FOMC meeting. 😁
Melissa Sanchez17 Melissa Sanchez17 Regular
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#35 ·
Anthony Evans78 said:Not exactly a masterpiece... 🙂
The Federal Reserve gives commercial banks the green light to dump a few thousand futures contracts whenever they need to manipulate prices. 😁
It’s pretty typical for all sorts of chaos to break out right before an FOMC meeting. 😁

You're talking about what happened over a few minutes here 😁
but history remembers something else entirely.
Gold prices actually rose more often on Federal Reserve interest-rate hikes than on cuts over the last 30 years...
https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-ne...-fed-091620162
Robert Vaughn10 Robert Vaughn10 Regular
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#36 ·
Listening to Jim Rickards again. Some interesting terms popping up: ice nine, the big freeze...
His explanation involving dominoes is also quite compelling...



"snowflake"
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 RegularOP
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#37 ·
Robert Vaughn10 said:Listening to Jim Rickards again. Some interesting terms popping up: ice nine, the big freeze...
His explanation involving dominoes is also quite compelling...



"snowflake"

Currently, all indicators point toward this specific model of control. They eliminate physical cash to mandate the use of digital currency. From there, you move to negative interest rates, and if things get truly dire, they simply cut off your access to funds entirely—a scenario that is virtually impossible when dealing with hard cash.

Regarding the snowflake analogy: it isn't about one single critical flake. It’s about the fundamental instability—the inherent unsustainability—of the entire architecture. One must address the design of the system itself, provided there is any political will to do so, which, quite frankly, is non-existent at this stage.

The video is excellent, though his book, Road to Ruin, offers an even deeper dive.
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
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#38 ·
Germany Gets The ‘ Wrong Suitcase ’ While Repatriating Its Gold Reserves fra US

“Look, there are plenty of red flags suggesting that the gold wasn't actually sitting in those New York City vaults when Germany asked for it back. Sure, the USA started the process of sending it home, but here's the kicker—there's this one weird detail. It's like if you drop your bag off at a coat check; you'd pretty much assume you're getting your own bag back, right? Well, it turns out Germany walked away with the 'wrong suitcase.'

While pulling its gold out of the USA, Germany ended up with bars marked with someone else's tags.

“There are massive indicators that the gold just wasn't physically there in the New York City vaults when Germany made the call to bring it home. Obviously, the USA kicked off the repatriation process, but there’s this one really suspicious little twist. When you leave your luggage in storage, you expect to get your own stuff back. Despite everything, Germany got handed the 'wrong' suitcase.”

So where did the actual gold come from then? Did they just pick it up on the open market? Honestly, I'd go as far as saying it was stolen.
(Who stole 143 Tons of Gold from the Libyan People, Ukraine Admits Its Gold is gone, The United States stole Iraqi Gold & Oil, The $1 trillion jackpot)
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 RegularOP
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#39 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:Germany Gets The ‘ Wrong Suitcase ’ While Repatriating Its Gold Reserves fra US

“Look, there are plenty of red flags suggesting that the gold wasn't actually sitting in those New York City vaults when Germany asked for it back. Sure, the USA started the process of sending it home, but here's the kicker—there's this one weird detail. It's like if you drop your bag off at a coat check; you'd pretty much assume you're getting your own bag back, right? Well, it turns out Germany walked away with the 'wrong suitcase.'

While pulling its gold out of the USA, Germany ended up with bars marked with someone else's tags.

“There are massive indicators that the gold just wasn't physically there in the New York City vaults when Germany made the call to bring it home. Obviously, the USA kicked off the repatriation process, but there’s this one really suspicious little twist. When you leave your luggage in storage, you expect to get your own stuff back. Despite everything, Germany got handed the 'wrong' suitcase.”

So where did the actual gold come from then? Did they just pick it up on the open market? Honestly, I'd go as far as saying it was stolen.
(Who stole 143 Tons of Gold from the Libyan People, Ukraine Admits Its Gold is gone, The United States stole Iraqi Gold & Oil, The $1 trillion jackpot)

It is entirely irrelevant whether those are the identical bars Germany originally deposited or some other set, provided they meet the required standards. That universality is a fundamental characteristic of gold—as a form of currency. Given the current global landscape, perhaps we should be glad they managed to extract whatever they intended to take before any deadlines hit.

As for Ukraine... knowing how things operated there previously, it would be quite a shock if any state gold were actually found in their vaults. But then again, that might be the least of Ukraine's concerns right now.
Nathan Morris3 Nathan Morris3 Regular
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#40 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:It is entirely irrelevant whether those are the identical bars Germany originally deposited or some other set, provided they meet the required standards. That universality is a fundamental characteristic of gold—as a form of currency. Given the current global landscape, perhaps we should be glad they managed to extract whatever they intended to take before any deadlines hit.

As for Ukraine... knowing how things operated there previously, it would be quite a shock if any state gold were actually found in their vaults. But then again, that might be the least of Ukraine's concerns right now.

I suppose the gold quality isn't the main issue here. Maybe the real question hanging in the air is whether this is actually stolen gold that belongs to the Libyan people, Iraq, or some other nation.

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