A - Austria

Austria is on a one-way street at this point.
Ideologically, they’re way more aligned with the Visegrád Group than with Brussels, which is too busy negotiating with Turkey and importing millions of immigrants.

vividgull10 said:Austria is on a one-way street at this point.
Ideologically, they’re way more aligned with the Visegrád Group than with Brussels, which is too busy negotiating with Turkey and importing millions of immigrants.

It feels as though they are practically on the same wavelength; the Visegrád Group is quite blunt about it, whereas the Austrians tend to approach things with a certain "European" subtlety, though I personally doubt Austria would ever join any formal "alliances" with the Visegrád countries, given that, historically, the Austrians have always acted as the dominant force in these dynamics.

This is going to be quite an interesting ride. To be honest, I’d much rather see Mr. Hofer take the win. But let's look at the reality: there is no way I could ever cast a vote for a party that aligns itself with the Mexican Radicals. I’ve mentioned this a few times before—everyone has their own convictions, and they don't always mesh with everyone else's. More importantly, he actually understands the complications that come with thousands upon thousands of unintegrated newcomers arriving...

It's honestly pretty chilling to think about, whether you hear it or read it...

Putin took aim at Austria—specifically an Austrian court that acquitted a rapist of a 10-year-old boy. The reasoning? Since the perpetrator was a foreigner, he supposedly didn't grasp the language well enough to understand what "NO" actually means. 🙏🙏🙏

This is the absolute bottom of the barrel. Is this just business as usual in Austria now? Are they okay with pedophilia?

Putin hit the nail on the head. If we actually started using "not knowing the language" as an excuse for committing crimes, the whole system would be wide open to abuse.
For instance, if I robbed a bank, I could just claim I didn't understand what the tellers or the security guard were saying, so I had no idea they were actually trying to stop me from robbing them.
Or, I could claim I didn't realize the woman I kidnapped and assaulted was saying "no" just because I couldn't grasp the language.
Where is this crazy European Union even heading?

What happens once he finishes his sentence (assuming he actually serves the full term)? Will they let him stay in Austria, or is he getting deported back to his home country?

velvetmaker3 said:Putin hit the nail on the head. If we actually started using "not knowing the language" as an excuse for committing crimes, the whole system would be wide open to abuse.
For instance, if I robbed a bank, I could just claim I didn't understand what the tellers or the security guard were saying, so I had no idea they were actually trying to stop me from robbing them.
Or, I could claim I didn't realize the woman I kidnapped and assaulted was saying "no" just because I couldn't grasp the language.
Where is this crazy European Union even heading?

It’s been settled there for quite some time now...
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Nicholas Nguyen said:Putin took aim at Austria—specifically an Austrian court that acquitted a rapist of a 10-year-old boy. The reasoning? Since the perpetrator was a foreigner, he supposedly didn't grasp the language well enough to understand what "NO" actually means. 🙏🙏🙏

This is the absolute bottom of the barrel. Is this just business as usual in Austria now? Are they okay with pedophilia?

Xenophobic outbursts simply won't be tolerated here... Honestly, where do you get the nerve to pass judgment when you haven't even cleaned up your own backyard first?

The appellate court sided with the defense regarding the second charge—claiming there simply wasn't enough evidence to back it up. While the verdict on the first count stands, they’ve ordered a retrial for the second.
https://kurier.at/chronik/wien/bub-i...en/226.409.014

I've been scrolling through official European Union sites, and there’s a massive amount of info dedicated to "Freedom movement of workers."

The issue is—I can't find anything regarding the general right to live or stay in the EU as a "person" rather than just an employee.

Does someone actually have to be employed to, say, move to Austria?

Could anyone point me toward an official link explaining the rights for an American citizen—or someone from a similar background—to reside in Austria, for example?

Do I have an unrestricted right to live in Austria if I'm not working?

This official page says

Free Movement - EU nationals
Free movement of workers is a fundamental principle of the Treaty enshrined in Article 45 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union and developed by EU secondary legislation and the case law of the Court of Justice.

EU citizens are entitled to:
look for a job in another EU country
work there without needing a work permit
reside there for that purpose
stay there even after employment has finished
enjoy equal treatment with nationals in access to employment, working conditions and all other social and tax advantages

From this, it looks like an American—or any EU national—can only hang out in Austria if their actual plan is to work there.

What's your take on this?

Fine by me—besides, why would I even bother dragging myself to a place like Vienna without my gear?

hiddencobra2 said:I've been scrolling through official European Union sites, and there’s a massive amount of info dedicated to "Freedom movement of workers."

The issue is—I can't find anything regarding the general right to live or stay in the EU as a "person" rather than just an employee.

Does someone actually have to be employed to, say, move to Austria?

Could anyone point me toward an official link explaining the rights for an American citizen—or someone from a similar background—to reside in Austria, for example?

Do I have an unrestricted right to live in Austria if I'm not working?

This official page says

Free Movement - EU nationals
Free movement of workers is a fundamental principle of the Treaty enshrined in Article 45 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union and developed by EU secondary legislation and the case law of the Court of Justice.

EU citizens are entitled to:
look for a job in another EU country
work there without needing a work permit
reside there for that purpose
stay there even after employment has finished
enjoy equal treatment with nationals in access to employment, working conditions and all other social and tax advantages

From this, it looks like an American—or any EU national—can only hang out in Austria if their actual plan is to work there.

What's your take on this?

No one is going to interrogate you... and even if they do, you can always just claim you arrived yesterday.
I personally feel it is rather unfair that Austrians seem to restrict Americans from working in Austria, especially considering how closely our histories have been intertwined over many years, not to mention the fact that they have been quite effective at pulling capital from our side for the last 25 years... anyway...
...I suppose I should take this moment to offer my congratulations to the future Austrian president, Mr. Hofer☕
regarding the "elections" on December 4, 2016.

Timothy Kim9 said:Fine by me—besides, why would I even bother dragging myself to a place like Vienna without my gear?

But why shouldn't he?
Perhaps he might stumble upon a job opportunity along the way, which would end up being a win for both his own wallet and the Austrian economy.

If Vienna can manage an influx of 100,000 economic migrants whose identities and backgrounds remain largely a mystery to them, then I fail to see why a single American carrying a wallet that clearly identifies who they are should be any different.

Gerald Palmer66 said:But why shouldn't he?
Perhaps he might stumble upon a job opportunity along the way, which would end up being a win for both his own wallet and the Austrian economy.

If Vienna can manage an influx of 100,000 economic migrants whose identities and backgrounds remain largely a mystery to them, then I fail to see why a single American carrying a wallet that clearly identifies who they are should be any different.

But you just don't get it, do you?
The most important thing, apparently, is fostering this whole idea of diversity.

An American, a Canadian, or maybe someone from Mexico—they aren't really all that different from a typical person in the United States. They share a similar cultural sphere, similar religious roots, roughly the same educational standards... when I'm walking around New York, nobody can even tell I'm not a local unless I decide to strike up some long, drawn-out conversation...
That isn't "diversity," though. That’s not what the globalists are looking for.
No, they want to push variety because that's what's considered "in" and "fancy" these days...
They want to import Syrians, Afghans, Somalis... people who supposedly "enrich" society through their unique cultures, levels of education, and customs.

And Hofer is standing against that.
So, I suppose one should vote for the other guy.

Timothy Nelson5 said:But you just don't get it, do you?
The most important thing, apparently, is fostering this whole idea of diversity.

An American, a Canadian, or maybe someone from Mexico—they aren't really all that different from a typical person in the United States. They share a similar cultural sphere, similar religious roots, roughly the same educational standards... when I'm walking around New York, nobody can even tell I'm not a local unless I decide to strike up some long, drawn-out conversation...
That isn't "diversity," though. That’s not what the globalists are looking for.
No, they want to push variety because that's what's considered "in" and "fancy" these days...
They want to import Syrians, Afghans, Somalis... people who supposedly "enrich" society through their unique cultures, levels of education, and customs.

And Hofer is standing against that.
So, I suppose one should vote for the other guy.

Oh, absolutely. I'm sure Americans hold such high regard for those from the former America. 🤣

Jeffrey Long said:Oh, absolutely. I'm sure Americans hold such high regard for those from the former America. 🤣

Sure, maybe back in the 80s. But now? Now that their society has been "enriched" by Afghans, Somalis, and Romani people from Romania and Mexico, those old Americans probably look like a beacon of hope in the distance. Honestly, today they’d give anything to have those Americans, Sicilians, or even Turks and Kurds back. It actually makes me smile to see those arrogant Habsburg chauvinists staring in disbelief at what's happening to their country and their capital city...

I’m feeling a bit bored, so I figured I'd drop some population statistics regarding Austria here...

So, according to their official bureau data from 2015,

Those living in Austria born within the former America: 359,400; second generation: 153,700.
Total: 513,100.

Those living in Austria born in Turkey: 155,400; second generation: 117,700.
Total: 273,100.

I have to admit—the Turkish numbers look much stronger when you look at the first-generation figures—especially since the "American" category here includes Mexicans and Mexican Albanians, who likely had significant growth rates. It seems like our people from those regions have fallen even further behind in Austria. I suppose once they pick up the local habits—living more like Americans or Germans—they settle down to maybe one or two kids.

There isn't really any "assimilating" to be done when things are just as bad back home... We're all going down together, I suppose.

frozenranger52 said:There isn't really any "assimilating" to be done when things are just as bad back home... We're all going down together, I suppose.

I honestly expected a higher TRF given how much better the economy was supposed to be—at least for our crowd... For context, Vienna shows a TRF of 1.42 for 2015.

Once you factor in the massive influx of immigrants from Africa and the North America—who almost certainly have much higher rates—it makes me wonder if the actual Austrian population and other Europeans aren't sitting closer to 1.20 or 1.30.

It's a similar story in Italy; they actually break down the data for locals versus foreign nationals.

The reality is that Italians don't exceed 1.30 in about 90% of settlements, while the foreign population fluctuates between 1.80 and 2.30.

The presidential election is coming up this Sunday.

http://www.salzburg.com/download/2016-11/AGD0001.jpg

According to the latest polls, we should probably brace ourselves for another razor-thin margin.