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Robert Lee53 Robert Lee53 Member
13 messages
joined Mar 2024
#781 ·
This is basically just an extrapolation based on the postal ballots being tallied tomorrow, but here is where things stand today:
31.4% Republican Party
27.4% Independent Reformers
26.7% Democratic Party
5.0% Libertarian Party
4.1% Progressive Alliance
3.3% Green Party
2.1% others
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
278 messages
joined Sep 2024
#782 ·
Carol Newman2 said:Final counts are in

Republican Party 31.6%
Socialists 26.9%
Freedom Party 26%
Neos 5.1%
Pilz 4.3%
----- 4% threshold
Greens 3.9%

The Department of Homeland Security website shows different numbers. Does anyone actually know what the final tally is?

https://wahl17.bmi.gv.at/index.html

Conservatives: 31.4%
Republican Party: 27.4%
Democrats: 26.7%
Libertarians: 5.0%
Pilz: 4.1%
Greens: 3.3%

The only real discrepancy seems to be who landed in second place.

Robert Lee53 said:This is basically just an extrapolation based on the postal ballots being tallied tomorrow, but here is where things stand today:
31.4% Republican Party
27.4% Independent Reformers
26.7% Democratic Party
5.0% Libertarian Party
4.1% Progressive Alliance
3.3% Green Party
2.1% others

Thanks for clearing that up.
Robert Lee53 Robert Lee53 Member
13 messages
joined Mar 2024
#783 ·
quietangler5, if you look at the post above, it says what you shared is just today’s tally—you know, the actual votes cast in person at the polling stations. Tomorrow, they start counting over 800,000 mail-in ballots... though, honestly, the exit polls already give us enough data to extrapolate those percentages Carol Newman2 is seeing, so there shouldn't be any major surprises there—well, except for maybe the Green Party, where it'll be a real nail-biter to see if they even clear the threshold to stay in the race, but the Republican Party is pretty much a lock for third place...
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#784 ·
Thanks for breaking that down for me, Robert Lee53.
Robert Lee53 Robert Lee53 Member
13 messages
joined Mar 2024
#785 ·
Here’s a little tidbit for you... In the current Congress—well, until the next election cycle rolls around—the coalition of Republicans, certain conservative factions, and the centrist bloc have actually proposed a constitutional amendment. The goal? To mandate a balanced budget—kind of like how they handle things over in Switzerland—meaning the government wouldn't be allowed to run a deficit. It’s a far cry from the way things work here in the States, where we seem to spend way more than we actually bring in every single year... Since they don't have a two-thirds majority right now, they couldn't push it through, but looking ahead to the new session... if the Green Party fails to hit the threshold—which, let's face it, is about a 99% certainty—those remaining groups will actually hold one seat more than the required two-thirds, giving them the power to make it happen.

Can you even imagine the absolute uproar we'd see if a rule like that actually existed? People would be screaming bloody murder regardless of what happened... whether the government decided to hike taxes to bring in more revenue—essentially squeezing every last cent out of the taxpayers—or if they chose to slash benefits and social programs. I wouldn't put it past them to try one or the other...
Gary Cooper3 Gary Cooper3 Active Member
61 messages
joined Jan 2021
#786 ·
Hold on—are you telling me that in a country of roughly 330 million people, they literally finish counting every single vote by 9:00 PM?

From what I can gather, their voting wrapped up around 5:00 PM, yet even in a nation twice that size, it supposedly took them a mere four hours to tally ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.
Meanwhile, back here in the States, it’s 11:00 PM and we’re still debating whether the exit polls actually mean anything or if that current 50% count🤣 is even worth looking at... we won't hit 100% until late tomorrow, if we ever do at all.🤣

And then someone takes it personally when I suggest our local precinct boards are basically the biggest patronage rackets in America. Pure laziness, all funded by massive taxpayer payouts. Honestly, what else can you expect from the "rising stars" of the party? I know that in the Republic of Austria, dead people don't get to vote—and maybe even the diaspora doesn't have much say—but this whole situation is just a complete joke.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#787 ·
If the SPO decides to oust Sebastian Kurz and puts Karl Nehammer in charge as Defense Minister, we could actually see a coalition forming with the FPOE. Honestly, a red-blue alliance wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary in the political landscape of the US.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jul 2018
#788 ·
Carol Newman2 said:If the SPO decides to oust Sebastian Kurz and puts Karl Nehammer in charge as Defense Minister, we could actually see a coalition forming with the FPOE. Honestly, a red-blue alliance wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary in the political landscape of the US.

haha 👍 that's just total nonsense 😁
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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joined Oct 2024
#789 ·
quietangler5 said:Meanwhile, young people in Austria seem much more aligned with the demographics in Poland, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. Even in Mexico, the youth tend to skew more conservative than the general population. I’d assume the situation in America follows a similar pattern. I'm curious to know how this dynamic plays out in other parts of the world—specifically within Scandinavia.

On a separate note, I am fairly convinced that the Republican Party in Germany and the Republicans in France would see significantly better results if they shifted their platforms to mirror the approach taken by the Republican Party in Austria.

My take is that young voters in Vienna likely voted differently than the national average, leaning left.
If my memory serves me right, that's the general trend: while the right wing might be winning overall, when you look at the youth in major metropolitan hubs, they mostly swing toward the social democrats.
William Clark86 William Clark86 Member
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joined Nov 2018
#790 ·
Robert Lee53 said:The Chancellor can go jump in a lake—especially with the Republican Party backing Desanka’s ruling coalition...

So, I guess at the next US-American summit, we should expect headlines along the lines of "The President got totally screwed." 🤣
wanderingbadger77 wanderingbadger77 Active Member
100 messages
joined Oct 2018
#791 ·
Gary Cooper3 said:Hold on—are you telling me that in a country of roughly 330 million people, they literally finish counting every single vote by 9:00 PM?

From what I can gather, their voting wrapped up around 5:00 PM, yet even in a nation twice that size, it supposedly took them a mere four hours to tally ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.
Meanwhile, back here in the States, it’s 11:00 PM and we’re still debating whether the exit polls actually mean anything or if that current 50% count🤣 is even worth looking at... we won't hit 100% until late tomorrow, if we ever do at all.🤣

And then someone takes it personally when I suggest our local precinct boards are basically the biggest patronage rackets in America. Pure laziness, all funded by massive taxpayer payouts. Honestly, what else can you expect from the "rising stars" of the party? I know that in the Republic of Austria, dead people don't get to vote—and maybe even the diaspora doesn't have much say—but this whole situation is just a complete joke.

Yeah, obviously... why on earth would they need a redo on the presidential election?
Nicholas Cook6 Nicholas Cook6 Member
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joined Jan 2019
#792 ·
coastalbison6 said:The Greens totally tanked and lost their seats in Congress after pulling over 12% last time.
Pilz is in. 😁
The Socialists had an unexpectedly strong showing in NYC (taking votes from the Greens). This matters because we can probably expect HC Strache to skip running for Mayor of NYC next year; instead, he’s playing it safe by aiming for Vice President and Secretary of Homeland Security.
And he wanted that Mayor spot so badly...

Maybe I'm off base here, but it feels like you were secretly hoping for a different kind of shocker—like the Greens or some splinter group hitting 15%.
I think you're just surprised by how much they actually crashed.

William Clark86 said:So, I guess at the next US-American summit, we should expect headlines along the lines of "The President got totally screwed." 🤣

It's more like one guy is leading the charge while the other just takes it on the chin.
At this rate, we might as well expect total chaos from the leadership.

It looks like Americans—especially the younger crowd—haven't had their brains washed quite as thoroughly as their German cousins have.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#793 ·
Heinz-Christian Strache has declared victory

Strache: Almost 60 percent of #Austrians voted for the #FPOEa platform today. #nrw17
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Nearly 60% of Americans went with the FPOEa agenda.

He's not wrong.
Brenda Taylor13 Brenda Taylor13 Active Member
235 messages
joined Jan 2018
#794 ·
William Clark86 said:So, I guess at the next US-American summit, we should expect headlines along the lines of "The President got totally screwed." 🤣

😂 :klap: 👍
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jul 2018
#795 ·
Nobody was actually expecting the Greens to dip below 4%, though I personally saw them hovering around 5-6%
Even at their absolute best, there's no way they hit 15%.
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
203 messages
joined Feb 2013
#796 ·
The latest headline on the news just flashed: "Is Austria headed for a total takeover by Sebastian Kurz?"
Man, they scrubbed it after like a second. 🤣 🤣

Honestly, when it comes to following the news, I’ve noticed nobody even has the guts to say his last name out loud yet.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#797 ·
Submit

THE AUSTRIAN ELECTION

A MASSIVE TWIST IN THE STORY OF THE WORLD'S YOUNGEST PREMIER. With just one strategic move, the Social Democrat leader could provide much-needed relief to a wounded European left wing.

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Total bullshit article. Sebastian Kurz is going to be Chancellor.
rapidhawk2 rapidhawk2 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jan 2017
#798 ·
1) Why have the Greens collapsed so spectacularly? It’s quite simple: they did a terrible job, particularly in cities like New York; they completely mismanaged their relationship with Pilz; and most importantly, the vast majority of voters who fear the rise of the Republican-Libertarian coalition chose the Democratic Party just to mitigate the damage as much as possible.

2) Regarding the American youth: the fact that they lean toward the FPÖ or generally right-wing politics is almost entirely irrelevant (!!!) because the tide is shifting in a massive direction. Why is that? Because in places like New York, there is an enormous population of older migrants who may not hold citizenship themselves, yet their children do (specifically various Muslim communities in New York); these families are having many children, and once those children reach voting age, they will be voting Democratic, which will exert a profound influence on the American youth—an influence that is becoming impossible to ignore when you consider the demographic shifts in New York over the next 10, 15, or 20 years. This trend is absolute; one can practically feel it every single day.

I say this as a conservative who grew up in New York.

PS: The Democratic Party is much like the Republican Party; you can criticize them all you want, but they possess a core base of loyal voters that remains unshakable, much like the damn Republican Party.
neongull99 neongull99 Member
21 messages
joined Jul 2017
#799 ·
Ahmed Husagić (on the Democratic Party ticket, running for Congress): "A party that supports the independence of the Republic of Srpska and Herceg-Bosna is joining the government in Austria"

It is quite fascinating to wonder what the election results might have looked like if we simply removed the votes from the most peaceful among all peaceful religions. 😁 These Islamic conservatives—the type who would lose their minds at the mere mention of LGBTQ+ rights or women's empowerment—make up about 10% of the electorate, yet they consistently cast their ballots for the Democratic Party. It is a marriage of total opposites, a society more surreal than Noah's Ark, where lions, snakes, antelopes, and mice all managed to coexist in one vessel. 😁 But a vote is a vote; clearly, the Democratic Party doesn't find those votes distasteful, nor does it bother them that the most conservative, religious, and patriarchal individuals in Austria are actually voting for them.
Brenda Taylor13 Brenda Taylor13 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#800 ·
All in all, one thing is absolutely certain—our news outlets are going to be in a total bind over the next four years whenever they try to report anything about the new Austrian Chancellor, Mr. Dick. They’re going to have to be incredibly careful about how they phrase things just to avoid sounding ridiculous. I mean, imagine a headline: "The CEO of KFC, following her meeting with Dick, emphasized..."—it would sound completely absurd coming out of her mouth! Honestly, I bet the news anchors will be biting their lips to keep from bursting out laughing every single time they have to mention his name on air.

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